John Lynch - 49ers GM

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Exactly. This is a far cry from Matt Millen in my opinion.

How so? When Millen was hired he had Bill Tobin as Director of Player Personnel, he was the GM of Chicago and Indy (with the Colts he drafted Faulk and Harrison). So it wasn't like he was not surrounded by guys with experience.

Originally posted by stonecold590:
It sounds like every one in the Football world is praising this Hire of Lynch.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:

Millen had all the power and final say. It doesn't look that way for Lynch.

He is the trigger man. But yes, he'll have a small village to help him, so it seems.

Originally posted by FL9er:
What I'm looking forward to the most is Lynch's interactions with the media. The Killion's, Kawakami's, Ratto's of the world. Hope he's ready for that. (Although I expect them to attack Jed mostly)

Originally posted by Joecool:

We could have hit the ground running but now we have a developmental GM.

Let these words absorb and then tell me how you think about BFF decision to hire John Lynch.


We have a GM who will be learning how to be a GM. We have a developmental GM!

A developmental GM!




We have a first time HC!!!

Hiring Kyle Shannahan and giving him John Lynch is like drafting Peyton Manning and surrounding him with rookies at OL, RB, and WR's.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by stonecold590:
It sounds like every one in the Football world is praising this Hire of Lynch.

LMAO. What football world do you live in? Everyone is saying this is a total boom or bust hire 100%.

Everything else is just discussion about both sides of those concerns/optimism.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Certainly...no question about it!


It seems like on the surface, he's really being pushed into growing into a true President of Football Operations...essentially, becoming a General Practitioner where he'll have to gain enough information over various different topics WHILE having the true Specialists working under/for him. And if that is the case, this will still take years to learn IMHO. And like you said P, if he was doing it all like more traditional GM roles (contracts, all player acquisitions, hirings/firings, cap, analytics, scouting, etc.) then yeah, he'd need to become a specialist in each of these main responsibilities too...still taking years to hone. I don't think fans realize how much are on these GM's plates today.

You're right. The job is daunting. However is it impossible to pull off with some really talented folks? Absolutely not - especially if they're former GMs. His hires will be the key. They will tell us if he really understands his limitations.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

I think that saying "it will be years before he has a firm grasp " on all these things is a reach. Sure there will be some learning curve but I dont think its going to take him years. He has Paraag doing the cap, he will have personnel guys doing scouting, and somehow I dont see John having problems with the interview process. He is a smart guy and this isnt rocket science.

This. It'd be one thing if he had to assume ALL the traditional duties of a GM but he is in a situation where he will be able to lean on a lot of people, especially if Dominik and Hickey both join the front office. I think he can be a big help when it comes to FA, as well as being the point of contact for people around the NFL, instead of having to deal with Baalke or York, now you have Lynch handling all of that. I hope he succeeds.

Exactly. This is a far cry from Matt Millen in my opinion.

Who the hell is Hickey?

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Exactly. This is a far cry from Matt Millen in my opinion.

How so? When Millen was hired he had Bill Tobin as Director of Player Personnel, he was the GM of Chicago and Indy (with the Colts he drafted Faulk and Harrison). So it wasn't like he was not surrounded by guys with experience.

Lynch will not have this immense authority that Millen had. Lynch will have Paraag who is strong with negotiations and salary cap, Gamble and/or Dominak leading player personnel, and perhaps others. It may or may not work out but I have more confidence in Lynch becoming like Elway than I do him being another Millen.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:
Millen had all the power and final say. It doesn't look that way for Lynch.

He is the trigger man. But yes, he'll have a small village to help him, so it seems.

Who said he is the trigger man? It is Shanahan by all accounts

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I think that saying "it will be years before he has a firm grasp " on all these things is a reach. Sure there will be some learning curve but I dont think its going to take him years. He has Paraag doing the cap, he will have personnel guys doing scouting, and somehow I dont see John having problems with the interview process. He is a smart guy and this isnt rocket science.

This. It'd be one thing if he had to assume ALL the traditional duties of a GM but he is in a situation where he will be able to lean on a lot of people, especially if Dominik and Hickey both join the front office. I think he can be a big help when it comes to FA, as well as being the point of contact for people around the NFL, instead of having to deal with Baalke or York, now you have Lynch handling all of that. I hope he succeeds.

Exactly. This is a far cry from Matt Millen in my opinion.

Who the hell is Hickey?

Former Miami GM in 2014 and 2015. Got let go because Philbin was a terrible coach and Miami wanted to start clean in 2016. Dude made some very good picks in his first two years (see below).

OT Ja'Waun James (1st rounder, full time starter)
RB Jay Ajayi (5th rounder, became starter this year, made Pro Bowl)
CB Tony Lippett (5th rounder, became starter in year two)
WR Jarvis Landry (2nd rounder, full time starter and multiple Pro Bowls already)
DT Jordan Phillips (2nd rounder, full time starter since day one)

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Joecool:
LOL at our front office:

Hires a first time GM with zero scouting exprience.
Hires a first time HC
Possibly uses analytics to draft players.

Do you know how many teams have "hired a first time HC"? What a ridiculous statement, no offense.

Every team in every league uses analytics.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by pd24:
Millen had all the power and final say. It doesn't look that way for Lynch.

He is the trigger man. But yes, he'll have a small village to help him, so it seems.

Who said he is the trigger man? It is Shanahan by all accounts

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Exactly. This is a far cry from Matt Millen in my opinion.

How so? When Millen was hired he had Bill Tobin as Director of Player Personnel, he was the GM of Chicago and Indy (with the Colts he drafted Faulk and Harrison). So it wasn't like he was not surrounded by guys with experience.

Lynch will not have this immense authority that Millen had. Lynch will have Paraag who is strong with negotiations and salary cap, Gamble and/or Dominak leading player personnel, and perhaps others. It may or may not work out but I have more confidence in Lynch becoming like Elway than I do him being another Millen.

So Paraag will be making personnel decisions? I know Marathe is running the show but I am really hoping he stays out of the decision making now that he has his people in place.