Steve Young on the state of the 49ers

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Young couldn't hold the bootlaces of Montana.

Like chalk and cheese.

Montana loved the moment; Young shied away from it and blamed mental issues for his lack of physical ability to get the job done.

Not one thing you've posted has proven the bolded. Young had separation-anixety that developed into performance anxiety.....yet, won a title, 2 MVP and 6 passing titles in 9 years as our starter. What part of this is not getting the job done? Based on facts, he hid is anxiety well and excelled professionally.

Also, there's not one person in here that doesn't love Joe or not know the John Candy story. There's no need to keep bringing him up in your attempt to smear Steve.

I am not smearing Steve. I telling you and showing you in Steve Young's own words that he himself agreed he had anxiety issues that affected his play.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

I am not smearing Steve. I telling you and showing you in Steve Young's own words that he himself agreed he had anxiety issues that affected his play.

Not smearing? That's all you've done in this thread.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Young shied away from it and blamed mental issues for his lack of physical ability to get the job done.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Great play that it was; offensive co-ordinators and head coaches don't like that chaos style of play and we have seen in the long term it has had little success in the NFL

Then Steve Young steps up and says; Nah! I am going to improvise

This guy is uncoachable.

"I spent 14 hours scripting the perfect play and this guy refuses to make the play and just takes off running.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Yes, he said we got some good hitters and Steve would know what a good hitter is.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Steve Young was mentally soft in a crisis while Joe Montana was mentally tough

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Steve used to be able to rack up the points against ordinary teams but he chocked in big games.

Eddie had to assemble nearly the best team of all time to allow Steve Young the confidence to win just one more Superbowl

The monkey might have been off his back; but the glory days ended when the Giants beat us at the Stick to win that NFC Championship and stop the threepeat.

Here's another one.....to the bolded. Just needed to get a defense that didn't get caved in by Dallas. The offense from 1992-94 was just fine and if the defense namely the secondary would've been up to the task we roll to a title in 1992.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
I don't know if you can read but:-

Steve Young could endure hellacious on-field beatings, but one opponent made him weepy, nauseous and reluctant to get out of bed: anxiety.

As a child, for example, his separation anxiety was so intense that he sometimes slept on the floor outside his parents' room. He invented excuses to avoid sleepovers. And his mother needed to stay in his classroom during his first few weeks of second grade.
His paradox is captured when he writes of his mind-set during his career, "I long to be the best quarterback in the NFL. I dread being the best quarterback in the NFL."

Football exacerbated his biggest fear: disappointing others. During the offseasons, without a game looming, his anxiety dissipated. And now, 17 years removed from his final start, it has vanished.

In an effort to harness his anxiety, Young, who wasn't diagnosed until he was 32, went to elaborate lengths to minimize pressure.

With the 49ers, before playing on Monday nights, he refused to watch NFL games on Sundays. The reason: He'd feel even more anxious if Pro Bowl peers such as Troy Aikman or Jim Kelly had stakes-raising performances.

Instead, Young stayed in his hotel room, watched "City Slickers" on a near-endless loop and had his roommate, tight end Brent Jones, bring him bananas and energy bars for breakfast.

No one else knew, but Young's anxiety was the reason he and Jones, a friend who doubled as an amateur counselor, were the only 49ers who shared a room.

Still, Young's efforts were futile, given the Triple Crown of Pressure that encompassed his career.

At BYU, he replaced Jim McMahon, the best quarterback in school history. In the USFL, he faced impossible-to-realize expectations created by his $40 million contract, then the biggest in pro sports history. And, then, finally, with the 49ers he replaced Montana, an exalted figure who is among the greatest if not the greatest ever Quarterback in NFL history.

I'm not going to say it was just another day at the office, because it takes all of you. The demands of excellent NFL quarterbacking I always said took every piece of me, emotionally, physically, mentally, spiritually.

Before pressure nearly crushed him in 1993, Young had often considered quitting football.

In 1984, after he finished second in the Heisman Trophy voting, he was viewed as the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft. And while driving to a workout at BYU with the Bengals, who had the first pick, he fantasized about staying in Provo, earning a law degree and starting a family.

Young forged ahead, but he was staggering in 1993, his first season without Montana on the roster. He was the defending league MVP, but he'd thrown six interceptions in a 1-1 start. Replace a legend? He told a friend he couldn't even survive the season.

Before a Week 3 game at Candlestick Park against the Falcons, Young was vomiting because of nerves and hadn't slept for 36 hours, a wreck on the cusp of a revelatory moment.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/10/12/steve-young-talks

Listen to the interview. At the 5:00: mark Steve young talks about how separation anxiety made his life semi-miserable, even as an NFL MVP.

Montana failed sure, but he was always Joe Cool. The drive v Cincinnati Bengals to win the Super bowl when he asks the whole offence if they could see John Candy showed that.

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/pictures/50-greatest-super-bowl-moments-20140131/joe-montana-spies-john-candy-super-bowl-xxiii-0106360

Most of us would crack under the pressure of Super Bowl contention, or at least demonstrate some kind of shattered focus. But then, there's a reason guys like Joe Montana are who they are. The eventual four-time champ was so non-plussed en route to his team's nail-biting win against the Bengals that, during San Fran's game-clinching drive, he turned to teammate Harris Barton and asked, "There, in the stands, standing near the exit ramp… Isn't that John Candy?" And the cooler head prevailed.

There was a documentary special on ?espn/nfl network where Steve Young talked about his latest book including the anxiety issue. Does anybody happen to know what is called or have a link? It wasn't a 30 for 30 for NFL life series.

Steve Young "not getting the job done"

Joe Montana 4 Superbowl victory.

Steve Young 1 Superbowl victory

Bill Walsh " Steve is a frustrating guy because we cant seem to get him in sync" and that was especially prevalent in big play off games.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounSt00/gamelog/post/

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Joe Montana 4 Superbowl victory.

Steve Young 1 Superbowl victory

Bill Walsh " Steve is a frustrating guy because we cant seem to get him in sync" and that was especially prevalent in big play off games.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/Y/YounSt00/gamelog/post/

Way to take a quote from 1988 and try to apply it to his career Yep, Young never got the benefit of throwing 3 ints in a title game against Dallas and winning. I would have absolutely loved for the 1992 and 1993 squad to have the 1981 and 1984 defense. Especially the secondary.

For most of his career in play off games, Steve was out of sync.

Except for the year Eddie filled the team with perennial All Stars.

Postseason Passing Performance

Joe Montana: 460 of 734 (62.7 percent) for 5,772 yards (7.9 YPA), 45 touchdowns, and 21 interceptions.

Quarterback rating of 95.5.

Steve Young: 275 of 447 (61.5 percent) for 3,118 yards (7.0 YPA), 20 touchdowns, and 12 interceptions.

Quarterback rating of 86.1.

During the postseason, it is Joe Montana who ranks ahead of Steve Young in all of the passing categories. As a matter of fact, Montana's postseason quarterback rating actually increased 3.2 points while Steve Young's rating decreased by 10.7 points.

While Young's postseason quarterback rating is still higher than the career quarterback rating of Jim Kelly (84.4), the fact that his productivity sunk while Montana's increased certainly plays a factor in this evaluation.

Blocking Support

Joe Montana played with a total of nine Pro Bowl offensive lineman selections during the 13 season in which he saw moderate playing time. I excluded 1979 as well as 1991-92 for lack of playing time.

Steve Young played with a total of 11 Pro Bowl offensive lineman selections during the nine season in which he saw moderate playing time. I excluded 1985, 1987-90, and 1999 due to lack of playing time.

Joe Montana had a better winning record, better postseason passing production, better Super Bowl performances, worse pass protection, less rushing support, less quality aerial targets, and had won more accolades.

Steve Young had better regular season passing production, regular season rushing production, postseason rushing production, career passing production, career rushing production, and played with less defensive support.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

For most of his career in play off games, Steve was out of sync.

Except for the year Eddie filled the team with perennial All Stars.

Postseason Passing Performance

Joe Montana: 460 of 734 (62.7 percent) for 5,772 yards (7.9 YPA), 45 touchdowns, and 21 interceptions.

Quarterback rating of 95.5.

Steve Young: 275 of 447 (61.5 percent) for 3,118 yards (7.0 YPA), 20 touchdowns, and 12 interceptions.

Quarterback rating of 86.1.

During the postseason, it is Joe Montana who ranks ahead of Steve Young in all of the passing categories. As a matter of fact, Montana's postseason quarterback rating actually increased 3.2 points while Steve Young's rating decreased by 10.7 points.

While Young's postseason quarterback rating is still higher than the career quarterback rating of Jim Kelly (84.4), the fact that his productivity sunk while Montana's increased certainly plays a factor in this evaluation.

Blocking Support

Joe Montana played with a total of nine Pro Bowl offensive lineman selections during the 13 season in which he saw moderate playing time. I excluded 1979 as well as 1991-92 for lack of playing time.

Steve Young played with a total of 11 Pro Bowl offensive lineman selections during the nine season in which he saw moderate playing time. I excluded 1985, 1987-90, and 1999 due to lack of playing time.

Joe Montana had a better winning record, better postseason passing production, better Super Bowl performances, worse pass protection, less rushing support, less quality aerial targets, and had won more accolades.

Steve Young had better regular season passing production, regular season rushing production, postseason rushing production, career passing production, career rushing production, and played with less defensive support.

This is a joke So the 80s niners were not talented? Give me a break, the 80s squads were deeper than the 90s teams and it's not even close. You do know that joe had Jerry for 6 of those playoff years and I'm just gonna have to whole heartedly disagree with the 90s teams having a better run game than Joe's teams with the exception of 1981. I'll say it again, I wish the 92 and 93 squad had the 80s defense because if it did we 3-peat 92-94.

Why don't you look at Joe's playoffs stats from 81-87.....he had a 7-4 record with 17tds and 15int. His epic 88 and 89 playoffs are the main part of his stats. Joe's the greatest QB ever, but your constants bashing of Steve is ridiculous. Also, you don't have to try to prop up Joe with ridiculous claims that he had less talent around him.

Why is this guy in here talking down about Steve Young ??????

I am not bashing Steve Young; just showing the truth that he himself said; he had major anxiety issues

-which affected his game.

how?

by making him try and make big plays rather than completions and moving the ball up the field.

Steve Young himself stats it in this article. Instead of throwing the ball away or running out of bounds; he chose to try make "Stuff's gotta happen!"

:-

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/steve-youngs-mental-struggle-off-the-playing-field/

"At its root," Young said, "is this desperation, like, I gotta make something happen. So why not run out of bounds? Well, because I can't run out of bounds!"

"Not an option?"

"Stuff's gotta happen!"

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

I don't know if you can read

Yeah, I'm done with you. Blocked.

One would think that someone who worked through their anxiety issues to the great success Young had would be admired for it, not ridiculed and diminished.

But then to turn that around and say "I don't know if you can read" - I don't need that crap in my life.

Good, block me. But you still haven't read what I have said. You are coming up with your own conclusions.