Steve Young on the state of the 49ers

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

Steve Young had the best teams imaginable and only won one Super Bowl.

He had some horrible games at Candlestick in the play offs.

He tended to force plays too and his zip and throwing strength was only ever ordinary.

I wish they had kept Montana and used Steve Young as trade bait.

We could have got at least 2 first round draft choices for him and used one of them on a new young QB.

It's always bittersweet discussing this topic.

While many of us are "Montana guys" and wanted to stay with him, you can't help but love Young at the same time.

As a human being he's incredible. Yes, this part matters because he really was a caring player on and off the field, and in addition to that he won many memorable games for us from the 50 yard TD run against Vikings, sweeping Dallas in '94, Super Bowl XXIX, Bengals comeback, beating Peyton Manning first time against SF, and of course the "Catch II". That's more than enough for any franchise QB, it just seemed not enough because we had Joe.

Just wish that Young was younger/Montana older when we first got him, along the lines of Rodgers/Favre transition.

Imagine Montana never getting KO'd by Leonard Marshall......what then.......how many years could Young be patiently a backup?

If Montana retired after '94, maybe he could have played until '95. At a high level he was known for, maybe he was good up until '92 or '93.

Ideal world Young would have taken over for Montana in '94 or '95 or something and then rocked on until 2001........

But the world is/was and never will be ideal.

Lol....Joe was 3rd string behind Young AND Bono by late '92/93 playoffs

The Lions MNF was just one last bone thrown to Joe and the fans...he went straight back to 3rd string when the playoffs started

Bono would've been next man up if Steve was faltering or got hurt in the '93 playoffs

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:

I was at the game. Montana was like half a second a way from throwing to a wide open Jerry Rice for the NFC game winning TD.

http://i.imgur.com/pyWyjsG.gif



We would have marched right over Buffalo Bills and threepeated.

Ronnie Lott would never have left on Plan B.

Charles Haley may not have peed in George Seifert's car and stayed also.

We might have four or fivepeated against the Bills.

But that is an alternate universe now.

All Bubba Paris' fault!!!

It was actually Rathman who missed the block on Marshall (video shows this)

We never should have prematurely traded Montana - he had a good five years left. Young just wanted to take all the glory on a team that was Joe's.

Originally posted by mayo49:

We never should have prematurely traded Montana - he had a good five years left. Young just wanted to take all the glory on a team that was Joe's.

This.

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
I was at the game. Montana was like half a second a way from throwing to a wide open Jerry Rice for the NFC game winning TD.

http://i.imgur.com/pyWyjsG.gif



We would have marched right over Buffalo Bills and threepeated.

Ronnie Lott would never have left on Plan B.

Charles Haley may not have peed in George Seifert's car and stayed also.

We might have four or fivepeated against the Bills.

But that is an alternate universe now.

All Bubba Paris' fault!!!

It was actually Rathman who missed the block on Marshall (video shows this)

Argh! I think you are right. For a moment it looked like the Vikings colors when it's actually the NY Giant's colors. You know you are ancient when you confuse Chris Dolman with Lenard Marshall. <sigh>!

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Lol....Joe was 3rd string behind Young AND Bono by late '92/93 playoffs

The Lions MNF was just one last bone thrown to Joe and the fans...he went straight back to 3rd string when the playoffs started

Bono would've been next man up if Steve was faltering or got hurt in the '93 playoffs

I was referring to a universe where Montana never got hurt in the first place.

If only Montana connected with Rice to win the game, I could have been ok with that being Joe's last NFL pass.......my hatred for the Giants is that much!!!!!

Losing that game to the Giants is like having to watch your rival smash your wife and having to grin and bear it.....

Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
It was actually Rathman who missed the block on Marshall (video shows this)

Marshall hit the ground from a perfect block by the OL.

The mistake Rathman made was he jumped on Marshall while he was on the ground and them rolled off him on the opposite side to Joe, hence rendering him useless in the play.

If Rathman just stays on his feet and doesn't try and jump on Marshall, he could have blocked Marshall when he got up and Montana to Rice in the NFC Championship game v New York Giants would be as big as the Catch!

I watched that big hit on Joe and I remember Pat Summerall announcing as the Giants won on a last second field goal, "And there will be no three peat". With those final words, even on TV, you could feel the air go out of the stadium and the end of Camelot.

Yes, Camelot ended that day. Craig and Lott sent packing to the Raiders under Plan B. Sir Charles Haley traded to the exact wrong people, our ach nemeses Dallas Cowboys, what a mistake that turned out to be?!?!? Joe never really given the green light to take over again and soon in Kansas City. And us left with Steve Young.

Steve used to be able to rack up the points against ordinary teams but he chocked in big games.

Eddie had to assemble nearly the best team of all time to allow Steve Young the confidence to win just one more Superbowl.

The monkey might have been off his back; but the glory days ended when the Giants beat us at the Stick to win that NFC Championship and stop the threepeat.

Camelot died that day.

I just have one question...what does all this Young hate and Montana love have to do with the state of the Niners now??? Nothing.

We can reminisce because our past was so great and our present is still in rebuild mode.

Originally posted by GoldenGateGlory:
Yes, Camelot ended that day. Craig and Lott sent packing to the Raiders under Plan B. Sir Charles Haley traded to the exact wrong people, our ach nemeses Dallas Cowboys, what a mistake that turned out to be?!?!? Joe never really given the green light to take over again and soon in Kansas City. And us left with Steve Young.

Steve used to be able to rack up the points against ordinary teams but he chocked in big games.

Eddie had to assemble nearly the best team of all time to allow Steve Young the confidence to win just one more Superbowl.

The monkey might have been off his back; but the glory days ended when the Giants beat us at the Stick to win that NFC Championship and stop the threepeat.

Camelot died that day.

Camelot died that day...and you are using the pic from the 2011 NFCCG?

It doesn't matter; it is the sentiment that counts. Read the Story!

http://www.mercurynews.com/2013/11/18/49ers-at-candlestick-roger-craigs-fumble/

George Seifert went 98-30 in his eight years as 49ers coach. He won 10 more games in the postseason, including two Super Bowls.

But there's a hole in Seifert's heart that won't heal. He was the coach when the 49ers fumbled away the January 1991 NFC Championship game and their ticket to a third straight Super Bowl. The 15-13 loss to the New York Giants, as devastating a loss as any in team history, ranks No. 7 in our countdown of the 49ers' most unforgettable moments at Candlestick Park.

"It haunts me to this day," Seifert said recently. "I don't know that ownership has ever forgiven me for losing that game."

"It drained us of everything," said Carmen Policy, the former team president. "We lost the game. We lost our quarterback. We knew if we got to the Super Bowl, we were going to win it. The gloom was unbelievable. I don't recall ever seeing the team or the organization as down as we all were that day."

To this day, no team has won three straight Super Bowls. The 49ers were three minutes away from having the opportunity to make that history, to set themselves apart from all other NFL dynasties, to relegate the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Dallas Cowboys and the Green Bay Packers to an argument about second-best.

The 49ers had survived the loss of quarterback Joe Montana, injured with 10 minutes to play. They led 13-12, with Steve Young at quarterback and running out the clock. They were in Giants territory, at the 40, with 2:42 showing on the clock, when running back Roger Craig fumbled. The Giants recovered and scraped together enough yardage to set up Matt Bahr's 42-yard field goal as time expired.

It was a crushing moment. Candlestick fell into a funereal hush as the ball barely eked over the crossbar. Suddenly, shockingly, the three-peat opportunity was gone, and in agonizing fashion to boot.