Time to tank

Tanking was the yorks plan all along ! I've been saying this for moons ! In the off season we did nothing , Zane was our big signing . That spoke volumes to me , with the space we had under the cap we grabbed Zane .... Yikes . Draft failure has hurt us as well , say what u want but most of us could have drafted just as well as our upper management . Buckner was a no brainer . Here's the underlying story and it's all about chip . Chip probably wanted control of personnel , niners were unwilling to give him that because of the Eagles implosion . So you tell him to evaluate the talent on the current roster for a year and see what we got . Then you gift wrap a top 5 draft position to him in the following draft where he can silently hand pick his kind of players . On top of it you give the guy 45 million in cap space to bring in any free agents that are to his liking and tada ..... Ladies and gentlemen we present to you ..... Chip Kelly's niners ! We did nothing to get better at any opportunity , we were destined to fail it was the plan .

Originally posted by bleedredandgold:
Tanking was the yorks plan all along ! I've been saying this for moons ! In the off season we did nothing , Zane was our big signing . That spoke volumes to me , with the space we had under the cap we grabbed Zane .... Yikes . Draft failure has hurt us as well , say what u want but most of us could have drafted just as well as our upper management . Buckner was a no brainer . Here's the underlying story and it's all about chip . Chip probably wanted control of personnel , niners were unwilling to give him that because of the Eagles implosion . So you tell him to evaluate the talent on the current roster for a year and see what we got . Then you gift wrap a top 5 draft position to him in the following draft where he can silently hand pick his kind of players . On top of it you give the guy 45 million in cap space to bring in any free agents that are to his liking and tada ..... Ladies and gentlemen we present to you ..... Chip Kelly's niners ! We did nothing to get better at any opportunity , we were destined to fail it was the plan .

You talk like the Yorks actually have a clue about what they are doing.

Originally posted by 15crabtree:
May I ask what if kaep returns to his old form & improved vision & mechanics do we still draft a qb

He 100% will and no we shouldn't. But that especially depends if Baalke the moron is still drafting for us.

Tanking since 1990 even if know

One of my biggest frustrations with Baalke is his complete and utter lack of ability to leverage assets into any kind of future value.

I can see letting players like Iupati walk. He had injury issues, and he was over priced. But when I consider how much talent this team had a few years ago, and what they have to show for it now, it's just devastating.

Justin Smith, retired. Capspace, unused
Patrick Willis, retired. Capspace, unused.
Alden Smith, released. No trade, capspace, unused.
Chris Borland, retired. No significant replacement drafted.
Anthony Davis, retired (again). No trade and capspace, unused.
Bruce Miller, released. Lost Pro Bowler
Navarro Bowman,torn Achilles, career ended?
Colin Kapernick, career in limbo. Future franchise QB replacement, TBD.

This team is in such a talent deficit, I don't think they need to try to tank.

Hopefully Jed guts the entire front office, hire a legit team president, and gets out of the way.

I didn't say the yorks knew what they were doing , I said the plans been to allow chip to hand craft a team full of his own hand picked players . Niners brass couldn't openly give chip personnel control , not after the Philadelphia experiment . Our next off season we have chips grubby little finger prints all over it , Just some of the business decisions I disagreed with the yorks On are as follows . I would have never let harbaugh go , or Crabtree ( 3 tds today ) and gore would have retired a niner as royalty . Hiring chip was a terrible move .

No need to tank on purpose, we'll take care of it naturally without forcing anything. It's obvious that there is a major talent deficit on the roster that won't be fixed in one off-season. How quickly that deficit is resolved depends on how lucky we get in who is available when we pick, in 2017 and beyond.

Originally posted by 15crabtree:
May I ask what if kaep returns to his old form & improved vision & mechanics do we still draft a qb

Done watching this disgrace of a team, I'll watch college and look for our savior qb and then baalke will take an injured de instead. Who's got it better than us? Every other fan base in the league, that's who.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 15crabtree:

May I ask what if kaep returns to his old form & improved vision & mechanics do we still draft a qb

Kaepernick isn't even physically fit enough to play, according to kelly. And according to many people he's not very bright and has zero confidence in his ability to play even when he's back physically. He's nothing more than an anchor on our salary cap at this point, put him in he plays like s**t and gets hurt? Then we're paying him next year too, unless someone else wants him. (No one wants him)

Originally posted by Butter:
One of my biggest frustrations with Baalke is his complete and utter lack of ability to leverage assets into any kind of future value.

I can see letting players like Iupati walk. He had injury issues, and he was over priced. But when I consider how much talent this team had a few years ago, and what they have to show for it now, it's just devastating.

Justin Smith, retired. Capspace, unused
Patrick Willis, retired. Capspace, unused.
Alden Smith, released. No trade, capspace, unused.
Chris Borland, retired. No significant replacement drafted.
Anthony Davis, retired (again). No trade and capspace, unused.
Bruce Miller, released. Lost Pro Bowler
Navarro Bowman,torn Achilles, career ended?
Colin Kapernick, career in limbo. Future franchise QB replacement, TBD.

This team is in such a talent deficit, I don't think they need to try to tank.

Hopefully Jed guts the entire front office, hire a legit team president, and gets out of the way.

Yes, terrible asset management.

we dont have to try

I thought we were already tanking

Originally posted by awp8912:

Originally posted by 15crabtree:

May I ask what if kaep returns to his old form & improved vision & mechanics do we still draft a qb

He 100% will and no we shouldn't. But that especially depends if Baalke the moron is still drafting for us.

Tanking since 2014. Other teams get better in a couple of years, but our future is still recovering from ACL.