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Waterbear · 2016-10-02T16:24:19-07:00

Loss of Bowman and this tough upcoming schedule this we might not have to. This season is over.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM

MCrabs15
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Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by MCrabs15:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I am of the mindset we should keep building the defense and take Myles Garrett. I think we might see kaepernick do some things later in the year that we might like. I know I am probably alone on that one. But Garrett is a fantastic prospect.

Love Garrett but if Kizer is as good as I think he'll be (I'm an ND fan so there's probably bias lol) you can't pass on the franchise QB imo. Definitely agree on building the defense but I'm hoping we do that through FA and continue to develop our homegrown players. Guys like Rashard Robinson, Armstead, Buck, Lynch, Ward, Tartt and a few others can be special pieces of a special defense in due time but our offensive well couldn't be dryer ATM. Outside of our OLine I like nothing on offense, even Hyde is just meh to me
I may be opposite biased being a Stanford fan and I hate Notre Dame lol. I've seen him play but think Garrett would be better. Obviously we need a QB but picking the wrong one can set this franchise back even more. I think Garrett would make this the best front in football. The way we got to the Super Bowl last.

There are multiple ways to build a team, and your way isn't at all wrong, I'm just of the mindset that you can't win a championship without a franchise QB in today's football and I look to our mini dynastic run in the early 10s as evidence of that. The big split for us is that you still have faith in Kap whereas I have none lol.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:09 PM

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Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by MCrabs15:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I am of the mindset we should keep building the defense and take Myles Garrett. I think we might see kaepernick do some things later in the year that we might like. I know I am probably alone on that one. But Garrett is a fantastic prospect.

Love Garrett but if Kizer is as good as I think he'll be (I'm an ND fan so there's probably bias lol) you can't pass on the franchise QB imo. Definitely agree on building the defense but I'm hoping we do that through FA and continue to develop our homegrown players. Guys like Rashard Robinson, Armstead, Buck, Lynch, Ward, Tartt and a few others can be special pieces of a special defense in due time but our offensive well couldn't be dryer ATM. Outside of our OLine I like nothing on offense, even Hyde is just meh to me
I may be opposite biased being a Stanford fan and I hate Notre Dame lol. I've seen him play but think Garrett would be better. Obviously we need a QB but picking the wrong one can set this franchise back even more. I think Garrett would make this the best front in football. The way we got to the Super Bowl last.

Wow! You really think this front is that close? Lot of preseason hype but they haven't impressed yet

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

#33

9erred
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Blaine Gabbert = curtis painter. The niners want to start gabbert to guarantee a top 3 pick. The team is not even competitive. Not entertaining, yet the 9ers franchise skyrocketed in value, that is all the Yorks care about.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

#34

GNS1310
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No Effing way is Trent drafting next year. He's out the door.
Gotta be. Enough is enough.
Bring on a top pick.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

#35

LasVegasWally
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We'll win just enough games to move us out of draft position to land the franchise QB we need to have.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:10 PM

#36

Waterbear
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Originally posted by MCrabs15:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by MCrabs15:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I am of the mindset we should keep building the defense and take Myles Garrett. I think we might see kaepernick do some things later in the year that we might like. I know I am probably alone on that one. But Garrett is a fantastic prospect.

Love Garrett but if Kizer is as good as I think he'll be (I'm an ND fan so there's probably bias lol) you can't pass on the franchise QB imo. Definitely agree on building the defense but I'm hoping we do that through FA and continue to develop our homegrown players. Guys like Rashard Robinson, Armstead, Buck, Lynch, Ward, Tartt and a few others can be special pieces of a special defense in due time but our offensive well couldn't be dryer ATM. Outside of our OLine I like nothing on offense, even Hyde is just meh to me
I may be opposite biased being a Stanford fan and I hate Notre Dame lol. I've seen him play but think Garrett would be better. Obviously we need a QB but picking the wrong one can set this franchise back even more. I think Garrett would make this the best front in football. The way we got to the Super Bowl last.

There are multiple ways to build a team, and your way isn't at all wrong, I'm just of the mindset that you can't win a championship without a franchise QB in today's football and I look to our mini dynastic run in the early 10s as evidence of that. The big split for us is that you still have faith in Kap whereas I have none lol.

True. Let's put it this way.. If we pass on Garrett for Watson who in my opinion is way overrated I will

. If we take Kiser I would not be mad just not what I would do.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:11 PM

#37

cNiner
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Lol , we don't need to tank it , it's happening by itself. 😂😂😂😂

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:14 PM

#38

MCrabs15
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Originally posted by Sourball:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by MCrabs15:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I am of the mindset we should keep building the defense and take Myles Garrett. I think we might see kaepernick do some things later in the year that we might like. I know I am probably alone on that one. But Garrett is a fantastic prospect.

Love Garrett but if Kizer is as good as I think he'll be (I'm an ND fan so there's probably bias lol) you can't pass on the franchise QB imo. Definitely agree on building the defense but I'm hoping we do that through FA and continue to develop our homegrown players. Guys like Rashard Robinson, Armstead, Buck, Lynch, Ward, Tartt and a few others can be special pieces of a special defense in due time but our offensive well couldn't be dryer ATM. Outside of our OLine I like nothing on offense, even Hyde is just meh to me
I may be opposite biased being a Stanford fan and I hate Notre Dame lol. I've seen him play but think Garrett would be better. Obviously we need a QB but picking the wrong one can set this franchise back even more. I think Garrett would make this the best front in football. The way we got to the Super Bowl last.

Wow! You really think this front is that close? Lot of preseason hype but they haven't impressed yet

I've seen flashes and hope it all comes together. They're all so young that I can forgive them for their mistakes in hopes that they'll learn from it and all grow together.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:19 PM

#39

Waterbear
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Originally posted by Sourball:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by MCrabs15:
Originally posted by Waterbear:
I am of the mindset we should keep building the defense and take Myles Garrett. I think we might see kaepernick do some things later in the year that we might like. I know I am probably alone on that one. But Garrett is a fantastic prospect.

Love Garrett but if Kizer is as good as I think he'll be (I'm an ND fan so there's probably bias lol) you can't pass on the franchise QB imo. Definitely agree on building the defense but I'm hoping we do that through FA and continue to develop our homegrown players. Guys like Rashard Robinson, Armstead, Buck, Lynch, Ward, Tartt and a few others can be special pieces of a special defense in due time but our offensive well couldn't be dryer ATM. Outside of our OLine I like nothing on offense, even Hyde is just meh to me
I may be opposite biased being a Stanford fan and I hate Notre Dame lol. I've seen him play but think Garrett would be better. Obviously we need a QB but picking the wrong one can set this franchise back even more. I think Garrett would make this the best front in football. The way we got to the Super Bowl last.

Wow! You really think this front is that close? Lot of preseason hype but they haven't impressed yet

They haven't shown it yet obviously but I think Buckner and Armstead will develop. I really believe in lynch and I think Garrett could be better then Aldon Smith hopefully without the off the field.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:30 PM

#40

theninermaniac
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We will be tanking for the next several seasons.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:36 PM

#41

crabman82
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Always was a tank, just an unintentional one

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:38 PM

#42

Ottawa49er
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
We'll win just enough games to move us out of draft position to land the franchise QB we need to have.

Yeah, this is exactly what I'm afraid will happen. It's sad to say this in early October, but I'm willing to give up on this season to snag that top pick next year.....more short term pain for long term gain. I hope we go 2-14 (still want to beat the Seahawks and hopefully affect their play-off standings). We really need to draft a QB.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:39 PM

#43

fly15
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I hope balkee is fired before week 16

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:42 PM

#44

Predator85
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We'll win just enough games to be out of the top 5 again just like before.

Oct 2, 2016 at 5:44 PM

#45

Rascal
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Originally posted by fly15:
I hope balkee is fired before week 16

This.

I am hoping they announce it during the bye week the very latest.