Would you rather endure a year of suck, for potential long term success? | Page 2

jays9ers · 2016-09-02T05:40:19-07:00

I think this team is currently in no man's land this season. We have talent that excites me along the front lines but we are also void of play makers. Would you rather play competitive football and wind up 7-9 or 8-8 seriously hurting your draft potential. Or would you rather endure a year of suck to potentially land a top five play maker? I don't want to wind up like many teams just kind of stuck in the middle.

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:11 AM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The Browns will be SB champions soon, cause they been using this suck method for awhile

Dumping all your previous players when you change GMs every 2-3 years means you will never have success.

So this method of sucking sucks

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:13 AM

#17

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So this method of sucking sucks

Sucking worked out well for the two teams in the SB last year. They both derived crucial players from being terrible.

Would Denver be the same team without Von Miller? Carolina without Cam Newton?

Do you think their fans now regret sucking for a few years?

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 2, 2016 at 7:15 AM ]

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:16 AM

#18

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
So this method of sucking sucks

Sucking worked out well for the two teams in the SB last year. They both derived crucial players from being terrible.

Those two teams have been in the playoffs the last 4 years at least

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:19 AM

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Those two teams have been in the playoffs the last 4 years at least

Carolina 2010-2-14

2011 #1 pick-Cam Newton

Denver 2010-4-12

2011 #2 pick-Von Miller

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 2, 2016 at 7:21 AM ]

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:57 AM

#20

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Those two teams have been in the playoffs the last 4 years at least

Carolina 2010-2-14

2011 #1 pick-Cam Newton

Denver 2010-4-12

2011 #2 pick-Von Miller

Theres exceptions, unless your implying that's it's a lock to a SB ?

Sep 2, 2016 at 7:59 AM

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Theres exceptions, unless your implying that's it's a lock to a SB ?

I'm saying that it makes it far easier to build a winning team with access to blue chip prospects. Not guaranteed but neither Denver nor Carolina is making it to the SB without the guys they acquired as a result of sucking buttermilk in 2010.

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 2, 2016 at 8:00 AM ]

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:02 AM

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we're gonna suck anyway, so hell yes.

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:14 AM

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best case scenario, we are the panthers of last year.. after wining 4 games the year before we go to make the playoffs.. surprise everyone.. balkee's picks turn out to be pro bowlers.. players take charge and emerge... not that i like balkee but lets say i am optimistic.. never wish my team to suck!

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:26 AM

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Winning is now, this week, this game.

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:40 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Theres exceptions, unless your implying that's it's a lock to a SB ?

I'm saying that it makes it far easier to build a winning team with access to blue chip prospects. Not guaranteed but neither Denver nor Carolina is making it to the SB without the guys they acquired as a result of sucking buttermilk in 2010.

Teams get lucky unless they tanked on purpose. Carolina was already good before 2010.

if your going to suck, make sure there is a guy worth sucking for

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:50 AM

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by smithgdwg:
Watson

Or Myles Garrett who looks like the best pass rushing prospect since Von Miller.

Agree - BIG TIME!

One terrible season for years and years of success - sign me up!

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:51 AM

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that was last year right?

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:55 AM

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There is always an in-between scenario.

Mediocrity.

We win just enough to keep sucking. 7-9, 8-8, 9-7

Win just enough to prevent us from getting any blue-chip players.

Then we're stuck in "Suck"

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:56 AM

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Why would anyone vote yes?

Tomorrow is promised to no one.

Always compete.

Sep 2, 2016 at 8:57 AM

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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
There is always an in-between scenario.

Mediocrity.

We win just enough to keep sucking. 7-9, 8-8, 9-7

Win just enough to prevent us from getting any blue-chip players.

Then we're stuck in "Suck"

Pretty sure this board would be jumping for joy if we went 9-7... I know I would be.