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  • SoCold
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Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SoCold:
well our OL will be 10x better than this


Crabtree wide open

Yup. Not to mention Kap held the ball for too long. Again

Yep, the line was atrocious but he coulda easily tossed it to Crab.

Who never turned his head until Kap was sacked...sure. Maybe that's why he didn't toss it to Crab

QBs need to throw passes all the time before a WR even makes his break to beat the defense it's timing

LOL

jee sus

sometimes I feel like I'm in the planet of the apes movie talking football with them
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SoCold:
well our OL will be 10x better than this


Crabtree wide open

Yup. Not to mention Kap held the ball for too long. Again

Yep, the line was atrocious but he coulda easily tossed it to Crab.

Who never turned his head until Kap was sacked...sure. Maybe that's why he didn't toss it to Crab

QBs need to throw passes all the time before a WR even makes his break to beat the defense it's timing

LOL

jee sus

sometimes I feel like I'm in the planet of the apes movie talking football with them


Throw it where? The WR at least should look or start to look. Crab didn't even turn his head until he came to a complete stop in the middle of the field...at that time, it was WAY too late...jee sus
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Throw it where? The WR at least should look or start to look. Crab didn't even turn his head until he came to a complete stop in the middle of the field...at that time, it was WAY too late...jee sus

lol

Wow
  • SoCold
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Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SoCold:
well our OL will be 10x better than this


Crabtree wide open

Yup. Not to mention Kap held the ball for too long. Again

Yep, the line was atrocious but he coulda easily tossed it to Crab.

Who never turned his head until Kap was sacked...sure. Maybe that's why he didn't toss it to Crab

QBs need to throw passes all the time before a WR even makes his break to beat the defense it's timing

LOL

jee sus

sometimes I feel like I'm in the planet of the apes movie talking football with them


Throw it where? The WR at least should look or start to look. Crab didn't even turn his head until he came to a complete stop in the middle of the field...at that time, it was WAY too late...jee sus

A QB need to know every pattern his WR is running. As soon as he stopped his drop back he should have thrown the ball to the middle of the hash marks in front of Crabs right where he ended up. It's called leading your WR.

lol

Maybe go watch some film of Joe Montana or something?
  • thl408
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Vertical stretch over the middle (Shallow Cross concept). Underneath defenders gain depth so the High (85) read is taken away, so target the Low (15).
I expect all positions to play better excluding the QB/WR positions. Thus getting destroyed this Saturday. Gabbert will Gabbert, Driskel will Dorsey N Ponder will just Ponder on why did he sign with us in the 1st place.

QB's gonna be like
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SoCold:
well our OL will be 10x better than this


Crabtree wide open

Yup. Not to mention Kap held the ball for too long. Again

Yep, the line was atrocious but he coulda easily tossed it to Crab.

Who never turned his head until Kap was sacked...sure. Maybe that's why he didn't toss it to Crab

QBs need to throw passes all the time before a WR even makes his break to beat the defense it's timing

LOL

jee sus

sometimes I feel like I'm in the planet of the apes movie talking football with them


Throw it where? The WR at least should look or start to look. Crab didn't even turn his head until he came to a complete stop in the middle of the field...at that time, it was WAY too late...jee sus

A QB need to know every pattern his WR is running. As soon as he stopped his drop back he should have thrown the ball to the middle of the hash marks in front of Crabs right where he ended up. It's called leading your WR.

lol

Maybe go watch some film of Joe Montana or something?

Assuming that LB in the middle field turned and ran with the TE and didn't pass him off to the Safety....sure. We can't see what happened there. What we can see is the 49ers clearly have the advantage (6 blockers to 5 rushers) and the play is over in 3 seconds with 3 defenders in the backfield swarming our QB and 4 49ers at the LOS with nobody to block...
Originally posted by thl408:
Vertical stretch over the middle (Shallow Cross concept). Underneath defenders gain depth so the High (85) read is taken away, so target the Low (15).

Thank you for this. Yes, the pass should have went to Crabtree. I could not see that from the Gif posted
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Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by Sims19849ers:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Stud:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by SoCold:
well our OL will be 10x better than this


Crabtree wide open

Yup. Not to mention Kap held the ball for too long. Again

Yep, the line was atrocious but he coulda easily tossed it to Crab.

Who never turned his head until Kap was sacked...sure. Maybe that's why he didn't toss it to Crab

QBs need to throw passes all the time before a WR even makes his break to beat the defense it's timing

LOL

jee sus

sometimes I feel like I'm in the planet of the apes movie talking football with them


Throw it where? The WR at least should look or start to look. Crab didn't even turn his head until he came to a complete stop in the middle of the field...at that time, it was WAY too late...jee sus

A QB need to know every pattern his WR is running. As soon as he stopped his drop back he should have thrown the ball to the middle of the hash marks in front of Crabs right where he ended up. It's called leading your WR.

lol

Maybe go watch some film of Joe Montana or something?

Assuming that LB in the middle field turned and ran with the TE and didn't pass him off to the Safety....sure. We can't see what happened there. What we can see is the 49ers clearly have the advantage (6 blockers to 5 rushers) and the play is over in 3 seconds with 3 defenders in the backfield swarming our QB and 4 49ers at the LOS with nobody to block...

What I see is Kap looking at the WR like he's not really sure where everyone is supposed to be.
He's just expecting the OL to hold up.
Not reading the defense.
Not taking what the defense is giving up.
Doesn't see the blitz until it's too late.
Sack.
Originally posted by SoCold:
What I see is Kap looking at the WR like he's not really sure where everyone is supposed to be.
He's just expecting the OL to hold up.
Not reading the defense.
Not taking what the defense is giving up.
Doesn't see the blitz until it's too late.
Sack.

The blitz came right in front of him but Looney and the RB missed the pick up, clearly. I would probably expect two guys to be able to at least slow that one blitzer down. That was just piss poor pass protection. After the still image that was posted, I agree Crab was the only option to survive that play but 6 blockers to 5 rushers and the play is over in 3 seconds with four 49ers sitting at the LOS with nobody to block? Inexcusable
Originally posted by SoCold:
What I see is Kap looking at the WR like he's not really sure where everyone is supposed to be.
He's just expecting the OL to hold up.
Not reading the defense.
Not taking what the defense is giving up.
Doesn't see the blitz until it's too late.
Sack.

Who was his first read? Probably the combination route on his right got to imagine by the time he got to crab all he saw was broncos
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lol

During 11-on-11 drills, Blaine Gabbert was 4 of 7 with an interception according to the unofficial statistics gathered by Eric Branch of the San Francisco Chronicle. Ponder was 1 of 6 with an interception.

Unofficial from 11-on-11 vs. Broncos: Gabbert 4 of 7, INT; Ponder 1 of 6, INT. #49ers

— Eric Branch (@Eric_Branch) August 17, 2016
That ball needs to be out of kap's hands to crab right at his first hitch after the drop back.

Qb supposed to read coverage and blitz while dropping back and then anticipate the throw to where a wr should be in his route.

This is what separates the brady's cerebral game from the physical game of the cam newton's.
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Aug 17, 2016 at 11:43 AM ]
  • thl408
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Kap completed a 5 step drop and bounced twice. That is enough time for Shallow Cross to develop. The blitz is up the middle so Kap sees it and should understand that the internal clock is going to go off. Best reason I can think of why Kap didn't pull the trigger is because the rush came right up the middle, and it blocked Kap's vision to Crabs.
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In better news Kap completed 3/3 hand offs on read option plays.
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