The Hayne Thread version 3,142

It says every year approx 2.5 mill? rookies battle it out to make it in the NFL but only 200-500 make it? Does hayne affect that stat as a profootballer to another sport? Does that make him above average rookie american footballer against other rookies who come from the college game? has he proven to be an adequate or a good american footballer. Imao he has done sufficiently enough in one season to prove he belongs

Originally posted by 4x4niner:

It says every year approx 2.5 mill? rookies battle it out to make it in the NFL but only 200-500 make it? Does hayne affect that stat as a profootballer to another sport? Does that make him above average rookie american footballer against other rookies who come from the college game? has he proven to be an adequate or a good american footballer. Imao he has done sufficiently enough in one season to prove he belongs

Not accurate. He was worse than a lot of rookies and alot of rookies on his own team. He was cut, nobody wanted him. He was not a success in year 1.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pd24:
I wouldn't say average as a running back in the entire league. He did get cut for some running backs that were not in the NFL at the time.

He got cut for Kendall Gaskins who in the wash up did not perform as well as Hayne statistically. The other RB came in later when the coaches were running around like chickens without heads lol

So are you saying the coaches who all got sacked for being hopeless are the ones who guide your judgement over why Hayne got cut and that they made the right decision in doing that?

Fact is, he got cut. Fact is he is a long shot to make it this upcoming year.

That's what everyone said last year.

Who's Jarryd Hayne....never heard of him
Can a guy who has never played a snap of football, make a roster....NO
he may as well go home now
he's a scrub
Pre season doesn't count, means nothing
He runs to high, he's gunna get killed
He's to slow
He's not big enough

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pd24:

I wouldn't say average as a running back in the entire league. He did get cut for some running backs that were not in the NFL at the time.

He got cut for Kendall Gaskins who in the wash up did not perform as well as Hayne statistically. The other RB came in later when the coaches were running around like chickens without heads lol

So are you saying the coaches who all got sacked for being hopeless are the ones who guide your judgement over why Hayne got cut and that they made the right decision in doing that?

Fact is, he got cut. Fact is he is a long shot to make it this upcoming year.

That's what everyone said last year.

Who's Jarryd Hayne....never heard of him
Can a guy who has never played a snap of football, make a roster....NO
he may as well go home now
he's a scrub
Pre season doesn't count, means nothing
He runs to high, he's gunna get killed
He's to slow
He's not big enough

Well, he made it and got cut. Didn't exactly secure a spot. Is a very replaceable player

Originally posted by pd24:

That is easy to say, but so far his actions indicate he really isn't working to be better at the game of football. Unless you can provide a link, he hasn't been trying to learn the game or his position.

He knows the game now and understands the learning curve in the ps, he even admitted regret of shouldve did those running routes differently by instruction to a td.

Originally posted by 4x4niner:

Originally posted by pd24:

That is easy to say, but so far his actions indicate he really isn't working to be better at the game of football. Unless you can provide a link, he hasn't been trying to learn the game or his position.

He knows the game now and understands the learning curve in the ps, he even admitted regret of shouldve did those running routes differently by instruction to a td.

We will find out in camp.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pd24:
I wouldn't say average as a running back in the entire league. He did get cut for some running backs that were not in the NFL at the time.

He got cut for Kendall Gaskins who in the wash up did not perform as well as Hayne statistically. The other RB came in later when the coaches were running around like chickens without heads lol

So are you saying the coaches who all got sacked for being hopeless are the ones who guide your judgement over why Hayne got cut and that they made the right decision in doing that?

Fact is, he got cut. Fact is he is a long shot to make it this upcoming year.

That's what everyone said last year.

Who's Jarryd Hayne....never heard of him
Can a guy who has never played a snap of football, make a roster....NO
he may as well go home now
he's a scrub
Pre season doesn't count, means nothing
He runs to high, he's gunna get killed
He's to slow
He's not big enough

Well, he made it and got cut. Didn't exactly secure a spot. Is a very replaceable player

49ers were a train wreck last year. If they had had something like an 8-8 season, things may have been different. This time will be different. Kelly might just be smart enough to make it work.

Originally posted by pd24:

Well, he made it and got cut. Didn't exactly secure a spot. Is a very replaceable player

Everyones replaceable including hayne as you say, BUT it aint up to you or I that goes to chip and co.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by pd24:
Fact is, he got cut. Fact is he is a long shot to make it this upcoming year.

Fact is you don't consider statistics. Fact is your opinion is biased and means little to me. Fact is I only value balanced opinions not opinions that only want to stir up unpleasantness

Try and be a bit more balanced and pleasant then I may reply to you again. Have a nice night

Stats? If everything was based on stats, some team would have picked him up if he was average

Matey we have heard everything you have said before from others. It really is getting old debating about Hayne with guys who have your view. Same old same and it never gets anywhere because you aren't interested in reason and evidence, you just want to force your view that you Don't like Hayne down our throats.

We know your type don't like him and nothing you say is going to interest us. Give up here and go to another thread with other people who want to hate Hayne like you.

I am board and over it. Please don't think I am rude if I don't respond to you again.

Peace and Love

Some Regular Season RB Stats whereby 158 RBs touched the ball in a live game

Hayne was:
45th for 1st down % (23.5%)
103rd for no. of 1st downs (4)
108th for av yds per carry (3.1)
108th for total yds (52)
109th for av carries per game (2.1)
112th for av yds/game (6.5)
114th for longest run (11)

Oh and that dreaded fumble stat
= 67th for no. of fumbles (0) - or, 1 of 92 RBs who never fumbled

so with 32 teams, that should rank him as at least a 4th RB for most teams....not bad for someone in his first year playing the game

Oh yeah, loved that every 4th touch of the ball got him a 1st down considering the meat grinder he was running into

The above Stats would read better if they were correlated to each touch of the ball ie 1 running back may had had say 75 touches to run 75 yards where another might have had 25 touches to get the same distance. That is assuming it had not been done.

My understanding when all corrections were made he was about average in the league which paints an even better picture than above, which I assume are raw stats.

It will be interesting to see the difference when there is coaching staff that can remedy a leaky O Line and make offensive plays that create routes.

That is why PD24 is just barking up the wrong tree with us. Very unconvincing arguments.

Originally posted by pd24:
Fact is, he got cut. Fact is he is a long shot to make it this upcoming year.

Fact or friction?

Goatie, you are a proud Hayne-hugger and good for you, I am with you on that.

But you have such fixed, one-eyed views about all this and you continue to misconstrue just about everything written about Hayne that is not glowing praise as some kind of personal affront that must be countered and debated and argued down as if Hayne's very career depended on it.

It has been mentioned several times by others that you seem to consider this thread as your own and it your duty to defend Hayne's honour in his absence. That is exactly how it seems me too. You are looking at all this through some massive, wildly distorted prism.

Dude you are not Hayne's lawyer. You are not his agent. You are not his lover. You are not even his mate.

??? Are you serious? WTF What makes you the gate-keeper?

I personally agree a crap load more with the views and the opinions of the likes Zealot and PD24 and others than yours for that matter. And you know what? opinions are like a******es - everyone has got one. Me, you, zealot and everyone else. You might want to start acknowledging that next week your opinions might be different instead of white-knuckle grasping them like the sky might fall in if someone disagrees with you.

And please don't give me any of the "your just a negative Hayne hater..." bs or that I am on some high horse. This is a public space and anyone is entitled to come here say what they like without having debate it endlessly with you. My opinion is that I agree with pretty well entirely with all that Zealot says above and that what you've been spouting over and over and over is frankly just your opinion and as such is worth no more than anyone else's. Saying repeatedly does not make it any more factually correct.

Just got this In the airmail from the Hayne plane.

It was Marked attention... s**t you know who you are

For future, and to speed up delivery we need a direct address in the USA for your next delivery.

He also sent the snap shot below, after last season.

Eaton by last years "experts" that said he would not even get a team interested in him,

And another "expert" said pre season meant nothing,
And another "expert" said he would not make the 53,
And another "expert" said he would not suite up during regular season
And another "expert" said he would never get back on another team
And now another "expert" says he will not make the team.......

Originally posted by pd24:
That is easy to say, but so far his actions indicate he really isn't working to be better at the game of football. Unless you can provide a link, he hasn't been trying to learn the game or his position.

Its rest time now
4x4 said will
There is no doubting his commitment