Current players under contract ,most likely traded or cut after season

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:

The team is set to be nearly $40 million under the cap to start the 2016 offseason before making the call on Kap . . . and that without a long line of youngsters worthy of offering huge money extensions to. Point being, cap savings shouldn't be a priority over keeping experienced players who can play unless, 1.) they're clearly dead weight and/or 2.) they'll be blocking the path for a young promising upgrade.

Exactly!

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
The team is set to be nearly $40 million under the cap to start the 2016 offseason before making the call on Kap . . . and that without a long line of youngsters worthy of offering huge money extensions to. Point being, cap savings shouldn't be a priority over keeping experienced players who can play unless, 1.) they're clearly dead weight and/or 2.) they'll be blocking the path for a young promising upgrade.

Exactly!

After the hit they took last year it would be nice to keep some vets around unless they are beaten out. As you state Sonoco--if they are keeping a young guy from contributing and developing (Bethea?) then fine, cut them. But if there is no one better as a replacement...?

I would trade Reid and Brock, the 1st , 3rd and a 5/6th Rd pick. To Cleveland for there first and WR Josh Gordan. We are currently slated to pick 5th overall and Cleveland 2nd overall ,basically for the right to draft Joey Bosa. We would move J.Ward to FS and Tartt at SS with Betha being most likely cut. Hopefully picking up DE M.Wilkerson in FA would give us a nice pass rush. What do you guys think???

First off, Bosa is probably going number 1, so he'll be gone. Personally I like Gordan and the tools he brings to the table, but he needs to get his problem fixed, take responsibility for hat has happened in the past, and turn the page into his future. He has to be reinstated, so he needs to own up for everything that's happened, show remorse, and basically say the right things so Goodell will reinstate him. But once/if he's reinstated, he's basically on his last chance. Hopefully he realizes that he's got millions riding on him just keeping his nose clean and just playing football. It will be interesting to see what Cleveland plans to do with Gordan if and when he's reinstated. I would trade for him, but it would be a 6th-7th round pick.

Originally posted by Bobdawg78:

First off, Bosa is probably going number 1, so he'll be gone. Personally I like Gordan and the tools he brings to the table, but he needs to get his problem fixed, take responsibility for hat has happened in the past, and turn the page into his future. He has to be reinstated, so he needs to own up for everything that's happened, show remorse, and basically say the right things so Goodell will reinstate him. But once/if he's reinstated, he's basically on his last chance. Hopefully he realizes that he's got millions riding on him just keeping his nose clean and just playing football. It will be interesting to see what Cleveland plans to do with Gordan if and when he's reinstated. I would trade for him, but it would be a 6th-7th round pick.

I really had titans going for OL help thought moving up to 2nd might be the best shot to land Bosa, but I can see him getting 1st overall.

No way martin doesn't make that list with pears and devey. kap, lemonier... ok, maybe lemonier.

yep Brooks just made his case to get cut. I would drop him like a hot potato

Originally posted by ayleswbj11:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
They weren't offered contracts. Not the same as no one wanting to play. We are in bad enough shape without the narrative being altered.

Wrong MC was offered more money to stay here, he left

I recall Crabtree getting a contract offer at or less than what his offer was in Oakland. However it was early on and not during the offfseason/free agency period.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by leakyfausett:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

They may keep Brooks rather than have further holes in the defense. Whether he renegotiates or not, they have cap room to burn.

No way in hell they keep him with that contract...he's gonna be 5th highest paid 3-4 OLB in 2016

He's been awful this season 85th ranked edge defender and even lower in pass rush according to PFF....they will save over $6 million by just cutting him, take that money and find some real pass rush, pay Williams and Boone.

He is also worth a least two penalties a game for encroachment and even with the head start won't get to the QB.

Well, we disagree. He had a down year but so did the entire team. The off sides or encroachment penalties are a sign of trying to manufacture some extra advantage...not good for a veteran, but not that unusual. If he has his head on straight and would agree to restructure to help the team he would be at least the second best OLB on the team. why cut quallity if you can't replace it? Guys like Brooks don't grow on trees...just ask Lemonier or Harold.

I'm hoping Brooks becomes less important next year and can be replaced, but not this year. Not sure how much of his guaranteed contract the niners could clear.

Bethea was that guys this year...unsure if Tartt and McCray would be up to speed, but now they can let him go.

How's your boy brooks doing ?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by leakyfausett:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
They may keep Brooks rather than have further holes in the defense. Whether he renegotiates or not, they have cap room to burn.

No way in hell they keep him with that contract...he's gonna be 5th highest paid 3-4 OLB in 2016

He's been awful this season 85th ranked edge defender and even lower in pass rush according to PFF....they will save over $6 million by just cutting him, take that money and find some real pass rush, pay Williams and Boone.

He is also worth a least two penalties a game for encroachment and even with the head start won't get to the QB.

Well, we disagree. He had a down year but so did the entire team. The off sides or encroachment penalties are a sign of trying to manufacture some extra advantage...not good for a veteran, but not that unusual. If he has his head on straight and would agree to restructure to help the team he would be at least the second best OLB on the team. why cut quallity if you can't replace it? Guys like Brooks don't grow on trees...just ask Lemonier or Harold.

I'm hoping Brooks becomes less important next year and can be replaced, but not this year. Not sure how much of his guaranteed contract the niners could clear.

Bethea was that guys this year...unsure if Tartt and McCray would be up to speed, but now they can let him go.

How's your boy brooks doing ?

I do not believe he step foot on the field after that penalty.

Anyone know much goes agaisnt the cap once AD comes back?

Originally posted by ea_thegreat:
Anyone know much goes agaisnt the cap once AD comes back?

$1,787,500 in base salary and $1M in roster bonus, so $2,787,500 cap number.

please cut pears to save like 2 mil, devey, tje, brooks, bush are fa's let them go, brooks should be cut or hopefully traded, kap you trade dont cut him as many teams could use him, bethea should get traded, simpson could get cut, ellington and/or patton could be gone, lemonier should be cut, dylan thompson should be cut and upgraded over, gaskins should be gone in place of harris/draughn/hayne, silberman could be gone

Brooks
Devey
Boldin (49ers rarely resign players)
Williams (same as above, but hope I am wrong)
Boone (see above)
Dawson
Bethea
Maybe Kap but I think if there is a new HC that might change

Originally posted by NYniner85:
How's your boy brooks doing ?

Made a great play following a pass to the sidelines and then retaliated when pushed from behind after the whistle. There were several of those in the first half and the announcer suggested the refs were being a bit blind. Not sure it's a big deal but if you think it proves something...OK.

Edit: calls in high school games aren't that touchy.