What are the chances we lose out the rest of the season? | Page 3

SanDiego49er · 2015-12-02T01:42:41-08:00

Sun, Dec 6 @ Bears 10:00 am - They can beat us at their home IMO. Possible Loss. Sun, Dec 13 @ Browns 10:00 am - We are in danger of winning this game. Browns are just awful. Even the 49ers can beat them. Sun, Dec 20 Bengals 5:30 pm - Loss. Sun, Dec 27 @ Lions 10:00 am - They can beat us in their home. Possible Loss. Sun, Jan 3 Rams 1:25 pm - Loss. But some danger of winning this game. I could see 1 more win vs. the Browns and maybe @ Lions or the Rams game. But I doubt we win both. Worst case is we win 2 more games. Best case is we find a way to lose out vs all and even the Browns game. I think likely we win 1 more game at least and maybe 2 with one of the Lions or Rams games at the end. 3 - 13 you have to figure is guaranteed top 5 pick. Maybe top 3. 4 - 12 you have to figure some other teams may win a game more or so between now and the end of the year. But it probably bumps us down to say #7 - #12 or so pick by the end of the year. 2 more wins and 5 - 11 leaves us a much worse pick IMO. It could be beyond #10. Maybe #12 - #15. Some of those teams at 4 wins will probably win some games too. Not everybody will lose out. I think the Chargers can win some more games for sure. They massively under achieved this year and aren't as bad as their record. I'm not sure about the Cowboys. Their QB is always hurt. Big dropoff to the #2 QB. I'm not sure about all the other teams. It's hard to predict what the bottom 15 teams or so could do an the last few weeks. Even this far along slots could change a lot. Teams could pick a lot higher or lower than you think based on this point. Some could win out and some could lose out and where we are now could change quite a lot. Personally I see no advantage at all to winning now for this team. It's clearly a season lost. Wins result in Keeping Tomsula, Baalke, and getting a lower draft pick.... Losses result in maybe getting rid of Tomsula or Baalke (probably not both). Plus getting a much higher draft pick.

Dec 2, 2015 at 9:48 AM

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JustinNiner
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Originally posted by Niner_Faithful_MTL:
The equation is simple fire tomsula and the whole staff.. get a competent offensive minded head coach that has experience and can hire a staff that can get the best out of our players. Solid draft + free agency we should be a competitive team next year no doubt.. main thing is get this POS coaching staff out of here !

your right. This coaching staff has really been the downfall. They seem super unprepared and unmotivated.

Some reports are coming out that Tomsula is too nice and lenient with the players. I believe it.

The only reason i would hope for losses is to see this coaching staff canned ASAP

Dec 2, 2015 at 9:50 AM

#32

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Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by frenz:
After the off season we had, iirc most people were predicting between 4 and 7 wins for the season, with most of those coming in the later half of the season. Adding in Kap's implosion, Hyde's injury, VD getting traded (although personally I wasn't too distraught by that one), etc.. It seems to me we're right about where we should expect to be right now.

I know a higher pick is a good thing, but I just can't bring myself to not hope for a win every Sunday.

I know it doesn't feel right not rooting for your team to win, but just imagine it's draft day and instead of picking 14th or 15th, we're picking in the top 5. That makes it a little easier, I think.

even if we draft top 5 baalke will still take someone who would probably be available between rounds 2 and 3

Dec 2, 2015 at 9:50 AM

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Do we want anything less and if you cant have it act like brat ?

Look at all the teams that have been winning, those teams were able to stay good because their strongest link was their QB. There are teams that show up but then fall back down because the whole team can't stay good. You need that Cog of a great QB to stay among top for a good amount of time.

if you don't have that QB then you ride the roller coaster like we are experiencing right now as well as other teams

You need the QB and a good passing offensive scheme with strong pass game coaching.

Dec 2, 2015 at 9:51 AM

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Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
even if we draft top 5 baalke will still take someone who would probably be available between rounds 2 and 3

Cuz that Armstead guy is just terrible.

Dec 2, 2015 at 9:54 AM

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Morgy
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We gonna lose the rest.

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:10 AM

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My biggest concern isn't pick 4 or 14. It is who is picking the damn player. Our 4 year run was mostly thanks to McLaughlin's picks the previous years peaking with much better coaching. Baalke hasnt really done much to be honest. Oh and there this little fact that Jed still runs the team.....

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:16 AM

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NeeJ49er
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
even if we draft top 5 baalke will still take someone who would probably be available between rounds 2 and 3

Cuz that Armstead guy is just terrible.

this better be the draft Baalke stays clear of injured prospects in the mid rounds, hoping they pan out down the road, because they supposedly have 1st round potential, ..we cant afford to be wasting anymore draft picks this way, the Lattimore pick was a complete waste of a draft pick

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:27 AM

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hopefully pretty good. just LOSE baby

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:29 AM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Do we want anything less and if you cant have it act like brat ?

Look at all the teams that have been winning, those teams were able to stay good because their strongest link was their QB. There are teams that show up but then fall back down because the whole team can't stay good. You need that Cog of a great QB to stay among top for a good amount of time.

if you don't have that QB then you ride the roller coaster like we are experiencing right now as well as other teams

You need the QB and a good passing offensive scheme with strong pass game coaching.

Patriots, weren't anything until Brady, Bilecheck sucked before he went to the PAts

same thing with Mcarthy

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:43 AM

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9ers4eva
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Patriots, weren't anything until Brady, Bilecheck sucked before he went to the PAts

same thing with Mcarthy

Steve Young sucked before the 9ers. Warner was bagging groceries before the Rams. Atlanta had no interest in keeping Brett Favre.

Qbs aren't just great by accident. Neither are coaches. It's a symbiotic relationship where the right fit makes all the difference.

[ Edited by 9ers4eva on Dec 2, 2015 at 10:43 AM ]

Dec 2, 2015 at 10:52 AM

#41

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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Patriots, weren't anything until Brady, Bilecheck sucked before he went to the PAts

same thing with Mcarthy

Steve Young sucked before the 9ers. Warner was bagging groceries before the Rams. Atlanta had no interest in keeping Brett Favre.

Qbs aren't just great by accident. Neither are coaches. It's a symbiotic relationship where the right fit makes all the difference.

QBs make the coach, and good QBs is a scarce commodity

Dec 2, 2015 at 11:37 AM

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