Charles Haley: A Football Life

JTsBiggestFan · 2015-11-20T14:36:02-08:00

Did anyone catch this last night? (seems like nobody did since it followed the Jag/Titan game)... I dozed through some of it but caught a lot of it as it related to his Niner/Cowboy career.... Man was he intense. I think we knew that but not sure we ever heard him publicly say how much he wanted to beat the Niners and that's why he retired after the '94 season despite two NFCC victories over them, lol. Then Jerry Jones convinced him out of retirement and they won it in '95. He was upset over all the Seifert trades....Montana, Lott..........even Lott said "you have to admire that........he CARED.......most people wouldn't". They didn't go into all of his crazy stories, haha. It's a family channel after all. I found it hilarious that when he went to the Cowboys he told Aikman "You're not Joe Montana", and Emmitt Smith "You're no Barry Sanders" to "push them".......too funny. One thing I found fascinating is how much respect his teammates both SF and Dallas acknowledge how very important he was to the team. Often you see people trying to downplay Haley as not quite having the very most dominant stats, or that he just played with stacked teams. That part was good to see. They all said he was denied for so long because of his adversarial relationship with the media.

Nov 20, 2015 at 2:43 PM

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I saw it. It was pretty good.

Nov 20, 2015 at 3:23 PM

Niners816
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Always wondered how 1992 & 1993 woulda played out had we kept him. Gotta figure it would have tipped the scales our way. Honestly, it helped them more than it hurt us. We got great sack production out of Tim Harris in 1992, what the trade did was give Dallas exactly what they needed on an up and coming fast defense.

[ Edited by Niners816 on Nov 20, 2015 at 3:23 PM ]

Nov 20, 2015 at 3:44 PM

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Originally posted by Niners816:
Always wondered how 1992 & 1993 woulda played out had we kept him. Gotta figure it would have tipped the scales our way. Honestly, it helped them more than it hurt us. We got great sack production out of Tim Harris in 1992, what the trade did was give Dallas exactly what they needed on an up and coming fast defense.

It was a terrible trade. Never get rid of one of the best pass rushers in the game.

Nov 20, 2015 at 3:52 PM

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I saw the latter part of it. He wanted to beat the 49ers so badly when he was on the cowpies. One quote I remember was when Deion and Haley were stretching out pregame and Deion said, "I know why the 49ers got rid of you. Cause you're too real" (paraphrased). Also the part when Steve Young was interviewed and was wondering why the f they traded Haley to the cowpies of all teams.

Nov 20, 2015 at 4:03 PM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
It was a terrible trade. Never get rid of one of the best pass rushers in the game.

Originally posted by thl408:
I saw the latter part of it. He wanted to beat the 49ers so badly when he was on the cowpies. One quote I remember was when Deion and Haley were stretching out pregame and Deion said, "I know why the 49ers got rid of you. Cause you're too real" (paraphrased). Also the part when Steve Young was interviewed and was wondering why the f they traded Haley to the cowpies of all teams.

It just stacked a conference rival. I thought they beat us a year too early even with Haley in 1992. I still think we were the better team that season. Now, 1993 was going be the showdown. When God told Reggie White to go to GB that off season it was pretty much all Dallas that season. Dallas was pretty much a 14-2 type team but finished 12-4 because of emmitts hold out. Our offense was nuts in 1993, but the defense was nothing more than average. Todd Kelly never provided the play needed from the elephant position.

[ Edited by Niners816 on Nov 20, 2015 at 4:05 PM ]

Nov 20, 2015 at 7:23 PM

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If we had kept him or traded him to the raiders we would be 7 time Super Bowl champions, and if we had above average QBs in the Harbaugh era we could've been 9 time Super Bowl champions. Could've, should've, would've...

Nov 20, 2015 at 7:34 PM

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Originally posted by SFTifoso:
If we had kept him or traded him to the raiders we would be 7 time Super Bowl champions, and if we had above average QBs in the Harbaugh era we could've been 9 time Super Bowl champions. Could've, should've, would've...

Nov 20, 2015 at 7:41 PM

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It was a good documentary imo. It sucked that the 49ers traded him but it is what it is.

Nov 20, 2015 at 7:49 PM

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Originally posted by Morgan49:

Originally posted by SFTifoso:
If we had kept him or traded him to the raiders we would be 7 time Super Bowl champions, and if we had above average QBs in the Harbaugh era we could've been 9 time Super Bowl champions. Could've, should've, would've...

lol stop posting that pic.

Nov 21, 2015 at 6:17 AM

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Just watched it on NFL.com

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How is it that such a devastating player doesn't become the mould for the position (Granted, 49ers 'created' a position' around him), and train up players to his level of skill?
It seems that coaching staff shoot straight for vanilla, getting a player and shoe-horning them into a perceived norm instead of looking at natural skills and adjusting the plays to take advantage of what caught their eye in the first place.
I accept that is a broad generalisation, but how many players didn't fit what coaches wanted to do, get moved on and flourish under a differnet scheme?

Nov 21, 2015 at 6:40 AM

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A dominant pass rusher is the second most important player on a team next to QB. Why didn't Eddie D hire a team of Psychiatrists to figure out what was wrong with Haley instead of shipping him off to Dallas?

Nov 21, 2015 at 7:33 AM

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Originally posted by BobS:
A dominant pass rusher is the second most important player on a team next to QB. Why didn't Eddie D hire a team of Psychiatrists to figure out what was wrong with Haley instead of shipping him off to Dallas?

Isn't that what Harry Edwards was? Was bi polar and manic depressive a diagnosis back then or was it just considered being a jerk?

Nov 21, 2015 at 10:44 AM

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Seemed like every time Haley gets a sack, it's personal. Cat quick and deceptively strong.

Nov 21, 2015 at 4:03 PM

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They traded him to Dallas in hopes he would be the cancer he was in the locker room he was while on the Niners. Didn't quite turn out as planned, as he developed an even stronger hatred against the Niners, the one team that could beat Dallas.