Missed tackles

have a read of this and it may explain why, even recording tackles or blocks made can be a nightmare as the stat itself is subject to player and coach reviews.

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/09/18/nfl-tackling-history-stat-leaders-lavonte-david

Thanks for the link, seems there are lots a simple one on one tackles that get missed even without a blocker involved, just straight out missed tackles. Yet they are not measured that I can see, I can understand when there is a pile it's hard to tell who got the tackle, but one on one can be measured I guess.

I agree, it must be how they are taught, but the overall tackling technique is god damm awful.

Looks more like they go for big hits rather than efficient tackling

Most other ball sports track tackles/missed tackles so it cant be that hard.

There would 50 a game!

Originally posted by theauviper:

I agree, it must be how they are taught, but the overall tackling technique is god damm awful.

Looks more like they go for big hits rather than efficient tackling

Most other ball sports track tackles/missed tackles so it cant be that hard.

There would 50 a game!

Got a video of proper tackling technique?

Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Got a video of proper tackling technique?

watch any NRL game and/or hayne's tackle from gunner on herndon in preseason.

Of course there is more than one way to tackle, but arm tackles against guys as strong and fast as NFL players will never work. Grab the ankles, they might make a extra yard after contact, but they will never break the tackle completely, that is what seems to make all the huge plays, either a long pass with great one on one catch, or a short pass, guy is tackled but breaks it and has room to run.

There is ALOT of missed tackles every game of NFL, 50 odd in the browns/bengals game. Anything more than 5 would get you a yelling at by the coach in other codes.

I guess the helmet/protection pushed how NFL players learnt from highschool onwards? They must have been told to do that.

Makes for some spectacular hit for sure, but lots of complete misses too

The nfl is mostly a non contact sport, its a lot more like ultimate frisbee than rugby league. The norm seems to be to run out the sideline, take volunary tackles, slide feet first, make fair catches etc, so when the defence get a rare chance to make a tackle, their eyes light up and they try and kill someone with a spectacular gigantic hit, and sometimes with a huge flying headbutt instead of just making the tackle. The reasoning behind the reckless tackles and flying headbutts may be that if they can make a few of these then the next time the opposition runs they might prefer to run out the sideline or submit to a voluntary tackle, instead of risk being knocked out by a flying head butt. This is better for the defensive team than if the attack always tried to make as much ground as they could on every play instead of running out the sideline or submitting to tackles etc.

Thats my theory anyays, so attempts at big reckless hits are expected and so the misses that come with the reckless attempted tackles are also expected and easily forgiven, so they don't bother counting them.

Maybe if they banned the helmet, we'd see more proper tackles, and less reckless attempts.

Does the nfl keep stats on how many penalties players give away, or how many passes they drop from the quarterback's passes?

I couldn't believe all the missed tackles in the last Seahawk game, especially with Marshawn Lynch.

when a offensive player runs you over, would that be consider a MISSED TACKLE?

Originally posted by 9moon:
when a offensive player runs you over, would that be consider a MISSED TACKLE?

I don't know. In my book, it sure is.

ok, that's clear.. Bozworth on Bo falls under "missed tackle", correct?

what about the Barry Sanders run which gave Ken Norton (Cowboys) the sprained ankle??

or the infamous "now you see me now you dont" - again with Barry Sanders against John Lynch (Tampa Bay)??

Originally posted by 9moon:
ok, that's clear.. Bozworth on Bo falls under "missed tackle", correct?

what about the Barry Sanders run which gave Ken Norton (Cowboys) the sprained ankle??

or the infamous "now you see me now you dont" - again with Barry Sanders against John Lynch (Tampa Bay)??

Obviously, it's harder to tackle a hall of fame running back, but it's still a missed tackle. I'm sure Boz, Norton and Lynch would agree that they should have made a given tackle.

Originally posted by 9moon:
when a offensive player runs you over, would that be consider a MISSED TACKLE?

not in the nfl. I think they only count the tackles they make. look at this scenerio: team A(or player A) vs team B(or player B)

A makes 20 tackles and misses 10. B makes 5 tackles and misses none. Player B might be to slow too get to the tackle, so they dont miss any, or they might be too slow at reading the play so they ever get in the position to miss the tackles, or they're not good enough at getting around blockers so they never get in the position to tackle. These are probably some of the reasons why they just use the tackle stat and ignore the missed tackle stat to indicate how good players are at stop attackers.

Originally posted by tushdaun:

The nfl is mostly a non contact sport, its a lot more like ultimate frisbee than rugby league. The norm seems to be to run out the sideline, take volunary tackles, slide feet first, make fair catches etc, so when the defence get a rare chance to make a tackle, their eyes light up and they try and kill someone with a spectacular gigantic hit, and sometimes with a huge flying headbutt instead of just making the tackle. The reasoning behind the reckless tackles and flying headbutts may be that if they can make a few of these then the next time the opposition runs they might prefer to run out the sideline or submit to a voluntary tackle, instead of risk being knocked out by a flying head butt. This is better for the defensive team than if the attack always tried to make as much ground as they could on every play instead of running out the sideline or submitting to tackles etc.

Thats my theory anyays, so attempts at big reckless hits are expected and so the misses that come with the reckless attempted tackles are also expected and easily forgiven, so they don't bother counting them.

Maybe if they banned the helmet, we'd see more proper tackles, and less reckless attempts.

Does the nfl keep stats on how many penalties players give away, or how many passes they drop from the quarterback's passes?

Stopped reading at "mostly a non contact sport"

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Stopped reading at "mostly a non contact sport"

Right. WTF?