Let's Be Real Here

Originally posted by Iupati77:
I am going on 40 years old and have been a 49er fan all of my life. I truly miss the days of Joe and Steve when our quarterback dropped back you had a rush of confidence that a big play or smart play was in the works. A few years back when we beat the Falcons to go back to the Super Bowl for the first time in what seemed like eternity, I wept like a little boys that I may be experiencing another Super Bowl win and my first with my two boys.

Flash forward to today and we need to get real. When you have a quarterback who has now been in the league 4-5 years and you are praying that his work in the off season with a Hall of Famer finally helps his development, when there really has not been any consistent development at all, it scares you. I hate to do it, but look at guy like Rogers. When his team is depleted of talent or hurt due to injury, he steps up even more to guide his franchise. He brings the old Joe and Steve confidence. When Kaepernick drops back, I cross my fingers that he doesn't give it away.

Add to this, the unfortunate losses we have had this past offseason, and the next to nothing we have gotten out of our 2012, 2013, 2014 drafts, and the pit in my stomach gets bigger and bigger. I am frustrated watching teams draft talented players who make an impact right away, like the Seahawks do. I am tired of drafting for two or three years down the road. Draft for NOW! Draft so you talent is oozing and people are fighting to get on the field. Drafting for two or three years down the road does nothing when you are trying to win now. Drafting this way does not put a sense of urgency or an ounce of confidence into your fan base.

I like Tomsula, I really do. But, he is a position coach, not head coach material. Does he think by saying that it is all on him, that we are supposed to say ok. No problem. Yes, it is on him, but it is on Baalke too, as well as the players on the field. I want an offensive line that dominates. I want a quarterback that does what a well versed QB does. With this, we can overcompensate for a team that has lost so much talent on D. But instead, we hold our breathe on a QB that has not developed one bit. He has all of the athleticism, but doesn't have it between the ears.

Jed, I was so proud of you when you hired Harbaugh. Finally we had a name and presence. However, I do agree it was time to move on from him (didn't like the way you handled it). We have become a laughing stock. A team with our history (your family history with Eddie) should not become a laughing stock.

So, let's get real. Cut Kaepernick loose after this year or trade him. Use the money to sign a talented o-line and shutdown corner. Draft a real QB, let Gabbert play to give year of development to the new QB, and draft Defense. Fire Tomsula and staff at year end and bring in someone with a presence (Like and Ariens).

Please Jed, put your ego aside. Move on from Tomsula, Kaepernick, and Baalke. Blow it up now. Use your cap resources, bring in the presence, and please give my kids the chance to experience a winner like I did as a kid and you did as a kid.

Lost me after Ariens..Maybe it was after Sundays game

Originally posted by 49erChica:
I'm going to give it one more week before I change my mind. I want to see how we respond to this 2nd blowout loss. I want to see how our QB responds.

Even if we lose next week, the game needs to be much closer and hard fought than these previous weeks.

I'm already over Mangini. He can kick rocks.

Believe it or not I am going to give it the whole year.

why?

because I have to. Nothing is going to change during the year.

I understand your point.

this team is better than its playing...but not that much better.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good - Buddha

I am 45 myself and also remember those great years and bonding with my dad over the 49ers. We were incredibly lucky to be 49er fans during that time. But let's be real here. Bill Walsh is not coming back. Joe Montana is not coming back. We have been living in the past for 20 years. So much so that when we get arguably the 2nd best coach we ever had (don't know if he is ahead of or behind Seifert), we can't appreciate him because he isn't the best coach we ever had, who was also the best coach anybody ever had. JIm Harbaugh succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams, but it was time to move on for some because, why? Because he wasn't perfect. He brought us some heartbreak. Kyle Williams fumbles. Stopped at the goal line in the Super Bowl. Couldn't beat the Seahawks. But I also remember the highs that we hadn't had in a long time. Getting some payback on the Packers. Going to Foxborough and beating the Patriots. Harbaugh and Kaepernick were undefeated against Rodgers and Brady, don't forget that. We had some memorable blowouts against Pittsburgh, Chicago and Tampa Bay, who blew us out the year before. That Saints playoff game that the pundits gave us no chance in. Going from the game against Dallas at the start of Harbaugh's first season when Candlestick was filled with Cowboy fans to the blowout at Texas stadium in his last year when it was filled with 49er fans. Those are the memories I fear I am going to have to cling to for a long time. Last year was a down year. I will give you that. But I wouldn't have bet against Harbaugh to turn things around this year. And when the next Brady or Rogers comes out of college, I would have given Harbaugh as good a chance as any coach of recognizing him.

Kapernick may not work out. We might get someone who is better. But we shouldn't get rid of him just because he isn't Joe Montana or Steve Young.

What could be said now

I'm older than everyone in this thread who has dared admit their age No matter how bad things get, we always rebound. If not in this season, then the next. Enjoy the journey.

Originally posted by BillRing49:
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good - Buddha

I am 45 myself and also remember those great years and bonding with my dad over the 49ers. We were incredibly lucky to be 49er fans during that time. But let's be real here. Bill Walsh is not coming back. Joe Montana is not coming back. We have been living in the past for 20 years. So much so that when we get arguably the 2nd best coach we ever had (don't know if he is ahead of or behind Seifert), we can't appreciate him because he isn't the best coach we ever had, who was also the best coach anybody ever had. JIm Harbaugh succeeded beyond anybody's wildest dreams, but it was time to move on for some because, why? Because he wasn't perfect. He brought us some heartbreak. Kyle Williams fumbles. Stopped at the goal line in the Super Bowl. Couldn't beat the Seahawks. But I also remember the highs that we hadn't had in a long time. Getting some payback on the Packers. Going to Foxborough and beating the Patriots. Harbaugh and Kaepernick were undefeated against Rodgers and Brady, don't forget that. We had some memorable blowouts against Pittsburgh, Chicago and Tampa Bay, who blew us out the year before. That Saints playoff game that the pundits gave us no chance in. Going from the game against Dallas at the start of Harbaugh's first season when Candlestick was filled with Cowboy fans to the blowout at Texas stadium in his last year when it was filled with 49er fans. Those are the memories I fear I am going to have to cling to for a long time. Last year was a down year. I will give you that. But I wouldn't have bet against Harbaugh to turn things around this year. And when the next Brady or Rogers comes out of college, I would have given Harbaugh as good a chance as any coach of recognizing him.

Kapernick may not work out. We might get someone who is better. But we shouldn't get rid of him just because he isn't Joe Montana or Steve Young.

That was well said. I wonder if Kyle hadn't fumbled and we got #6 there and/or we finish in Seattle and spank the Donkeys how different the 49ers would look today. If one of those scenarios happened there is no doubt Harbaugh is still the coach and we already have plans of a Harbaugh statue. We lost some heartbreakers with Jim but we were also a respectable team. We won some big games that in the previous decade we would have had no chance. After this offseason and last two games I just feel deflated.

Well we just all need to face the fact that this team will not make the playoffs again. Lets just hope that the team at least plays better as the season goes on and see what changes Jed/Trent make again in the offseason.

You have to wonder if their questioning their moves now. If not, be prepared for several more seasons of this because no players or coaches will want to come to SF....again.