Jerry Rice

And Jerry understood the importance of downfield run blocks. Madden used to rave about that when he was the color commentator.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Rice is the prototype WR at 6'2" 210 pounds (got lighter as he got older to retain speed).

6'4" and higher, well, WR's lose other ability like being able to be an effective slot receiver. Rice was able to be Wes Welker, Calvin Johnson, and Chris Carter all in one. One more trait Rice had was the ability to break tackles.

I just think some are over thinking it with Jerry. I can only assume they never actually got to see prime Rice. I showed earlier, he actually averaged more catches and yards with QBs not named Montana or Young in his niner career (sample size of 21 games). It's true he had the benefit of being coached by Bill (greatest offensive mind ever) but it's also a fact it was for only 4 years and in those 4 years he led the niners only once in catches.

Jerry was just the GOAT and the fact he did it for so long is a testament of the pro he actually was. We are so lucky to have had the opportunity to see him in his prime.

Originally posted by thl408:

And Jerry understood the importance of downfield run blocks. Madden used to rave about that when he was the color commentator.

You mean like this

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Rice is the prototype WR at 6'2" 210 pounds (got lighter as he got older to retain speed).

6'4" and higher, well, WR's lose other ability like being able to be an effective slot receiver. Rice was able to be Wes Welker, Calvin Johnson, and Chris Carter all in one. One more trait Rice had was the ability to break tackles.

I just think some are over thinking it with Jerry. I can only assume they never actually got to see prime Rice. I showed earlier, he actually averaged more catches and yards with QBs not named Montana or Young in his niner career (sample size of 21 games). It's true he had the benefit of being coached by Bill (greatest offensive mind ever) but it's also a fact it was for only 4 years and in those 4 years he led the niners only once in catches.

Jerry was just the GOAT and the fact he did it for so long is a testament of the pro he actually was. We are so lucky to have had the opportunity to see him in his prime.

The ONLY WR that was able to do everything, even take handoffs and turn them into big gains. Gimmick plays, of course, but he made more yards than others on those gimmick plays.



Don't nobody f**k around with Rice. Nobody is anywhere near his level. Everyone else is on the top of the 2nd highest mountain next to the highest one that Jerry is on. To get to Jerry, they can't climb higher. What they need to do is climb down from their poser mountain and climb up the real path to greatness.

Originally posted by thl408:
And Jerry understood the importance of downfield run blocks. Madden used to rave about that when he was the color commentator.

ABSOLUTELY!

Also it was a thing of beauty watching Jerry block for John Taylor and Taylor blocking for Jerry.

Man, I sure miss that!

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Rice is the prototype WR at 6'2" 210 pounds (got lighter as he got older to retain speed).

6'4" and higher, well, WR's lose other ability like being able to be an effective slot receiver. Rice was able to be Wes Welker, Calvin Johnson, and Chris Carter all in one. One more trait Rice had was the ability to break tackles.

I just think some are over thinking it with Jerry. I can only assume they never actually got to see prime Rice. I showed earlier, he actually averaged more catches and yards with QBs not named Montana or Young in his niner career (sample size of 21 games). It's true he had the benefit of being coached by Bill (greatest offensive mind ever) but it's also a fact it was for only 4 years and in those 4 years he led the niners only once in catches.

Jerry was just the GOAT and the fact he did it for so long is a testament of the pro he actually was. We are so lucky to have had the opportunity to see him in his prime.

The ONLY WR that was able to do everything, even take handoffs and turn them into big gains. Gimmick plays, of course, but he made more yards than others on those gimmick plays.



Don't nobody f**k around with Rice. Nobody is anywhere near his level. Everyone else is on the top of the 2nd highest mountain next to the highest one that Jerry is on. To get to Jerry, they can't climb higher. What they need to do is climb down from their poser mountain and climb up the real path to greatness.

Jerry was Mount Everest.

The Best!

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:
And Jerry understood the importance of downfield run blocks. Madden used to rave about that when he was the color commentator.

You mean like this

Rice clips the s**t outta 23 at the end...lol

1985 Jerry

Originally posted by Niners816:

1985 Jerry

Only 1 route on that play. Joe, one read QB.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Niners816:

1985 Jerry

Only 1 route on that play. Joe, one read QB.

No creativity by the HC.....

Originally posted by Niners816:


1985 Jerry

I love this thread. For all the folk that didn't get to see him or appreciate him like some of us did this thread speaks volumes

I'm gonna keep this Rice vs Moss thing going by comparing their season bests in REC, YDS, Ave, TD, Long

RICE
Rec - 122 (1995)
Yards - 1848 (1995)
Ave - 20.4 (1988)
TD - 22 (1987)
Long - 96 (1988)

MOSS
Rec - 111 (2003)
Yds - 1632 (2003)
Ave - 19.0 ( 1998)
TD - 23 (2007)
Long - 82 (2004)

So the only single season high Moss leads in is Tds and his was in 16 games when Jerrys 22 was in only 12 games. Moss was in a much friendly passing league yet Jerry beats him in all the major numbers including yards per catch. As far as systems go, randy played in WCO in Minnesota, a coryell in OAK (shoulda been a match made in heaven with Norv's turner) and an air raid flavored Perkins-Enhardt variant in NE.

Let's talk Super Bowls, after all big time players step up in big time games. Randy moss's appearance with a HOF QB on a team seeking perfection yielded a 5 catch 62 yard and 1 TD performance. Jerry's "worst" output as a Niner was in SB24.....he had 7 catches for 149 yards and 3 tds. Hell, Jerry's performance as a 40 year old with that other team in the bay was better that super freak moss's (5 catches 77 yards 1 TD).

GOAT

Jerry for his career was obviously better than randy, Jerry at his best was better than Randy's best and in clutch moments Jerry was superior.

Originally posted by Niners816:
Let's talk Super Bowls, after all big time players step up in big time games. Randy moss's appearance with a HOF QB on a team seeking perfection yielded a 5 catch 62 yard and 1 TD performance. Jerry's "worst" output as a Niner was in SB24.....he had 7 catches for 149 yards and 3 tds. Hell, Jerry's performance as a 40 year old with that other team in the bay was better that super freak moss's (5 catches 77 yards 1 TD).

GOAT

Jerry for his career was obviously better than randy, Jerry at his best was better than Randy's best and in clutch moments Jerry was superior.

Attitude, determination and professionalism as well. Moss took plays off all the time, and quit on a team. And Rice never ran over a meter maid. Moss doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Rice, period.

Originally posted by Niners816:


1985 Jerry

This was all the same game right? The monday night game. Joe threw for 2.3 miles that game.