NFL QB Rankings - Kap #17 | Page 15

Chico · 2015-07-17T12:11:00-07:00

http://sportswire.usatoday.com/2015/07/17/qb-rank-nfl-quarterbacks-rankings/ What do you guys think? fair? They are measuring these QB's on their passing stats, pocket presence, foot work, etc. But to me it's all about winning games & championships. How could they rank Tony Romo, Phillip Rivers & Sam Bradford ahead of Kap. Hell some are ranked ahead of Russell Wilson and as much as i hate him, he's got to be ranked ahead of Romo! I mean who cares how many yards a QB throws for (Matthew Stafford)...how many games/championships has he won? I know this is just the "expert" opinions & we should just disregard these but com'mon man!!! Wouldn't you take Kap over a Sam Bradford or Phillip Rivers? Even the so called experts should know this

Jul 23, 2015 at 1:07 PM

#211

crake49
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Originally posted by lazy:

Originally posted by crake49:
Given what we've seen so far with Stafford, I'm surprised anyone still has him in the top 10. Yes, great arm, good size, decent speed -- but look at the results. The guy is a walking disaster. Puts up great fantasy numbers and that's about it.
Having Megatron as a wide receiver helps make the game of football a lot easier. I think Matthew has a pretty good wide receiving core that allows him to put up video game numbers.

Right. Just watch one of their games and count the number of times Stafford just throws it in his direction no matter how many people are on him.

Jul 23, 2015 at 1:18 PM

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I might be off on this but I think Stafford is 0-15 on the road vs winning teams. That's brutal.

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:29 PM

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9moon
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Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by lazy:

Originally posted by crake49:
Given what we've seen so far with Stafford, I'm surprised anyone still has him in the top 10. Yes, great arm, good size, decent speed -- but look at the results. The guy is a walking disaster. Puts up great fantasy numbers and that's about it.
Having Megatron as a wide receiver helps make the game of football a lot easier. I think Matthew has a pretty good wide receiving core that allows him to put up video game numbers.

Right. Just watch one of their games and count the number of times Stafford just throws it in his direction no matter how many people are on him.

... and how many of that gets a positive results??

.. our Kaep can't even complete a simple slant.. lol.. anyhowwwwwwwwwwww, don't wanna argue about Kaep, he's a 49er..

Believe what you must, whatever makes you all happy..

TO EACH HIS OWN..

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:33 PM

#214

49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by lazy:

Originally posted by crake49:
Given what we've seen so far with Stafford, I'm surprised anyone still has him in the top 10. Yes, great arm, good size, decent speed -- but look at the results. The guy is a walking disaster. Puts up great fantasy numbers and that's about it.
Having Megatron as a wide receiver helps make the game of football a lot easier. I think Matthew has a pretty good wide receiving core that allows him to put up video game numbers.

Right. Just watch one of their games and count the number of times Stafford just throws it in his direction no matter how many people are on him.

... and how many of that gets a positive results??

.. our Kaep can't even complete a simple slant.. lol.. anyhowwwwwwwwwwww, don't wanna argue about Kaep, he's a 49er..

Believe what you must, whatever makes you all happy..

TO EACH HIS OWN..

... and how many of that gets a positive results??

You know Stafford has a lot of incomplete passes, right ?

Edit: I will answer for you..you dont know

[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jul 23, 2015 at 2:34 PM ]

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:39 PM

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9moon
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Do you fully believe that the 49ers NOW would be in more trouble if we had Stafford over Kaep??

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:40 PM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 9moon:
Do you fully believe that the 49ers NOW would be in more trouble if we had Stafford over Kaep??

Stafford cant get away from the pressure..you would know that since we played them a few times

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:44 PM

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Originally posted by lamontb:
I might be off on this but I think Stafford is 0-15 on the road vs winning teams. That's brutal.

lmao and the "experts" place this guy ahead of Kap. He can't even win a single road game against a winning team, even by accident.

Not surprised tho, these are the same "league scouts" that picked Locker, Ponder, Gabbert, and Dalton ahead of Kap. Their opinion is worth less than nothing.

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM

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9moon
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... that's why I'm simply asking you, Do you think the 49ers would be in more trouble if we had Stafford instead of Kaep??

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by 9moon:
... that's why I'm simply asking you, Do you think the 49ers would be in more trouble if we had Stafford instead of Kaep??

Not in trouble, but Kap is the better overall player. He shows up and plays big in big games. I'll take that any day over a QB who puts up inflated numbers but crumbles in every key situation and is 0-15 in road games against winning teams. Kap goes to Green Bay in sub-zero temperature, no sleeves, and takes over the game. He's a baller.

[ Edited by SofaKing on Jul 23, 2015 at 2:49 PM ]

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by 9moon:
... that's why I'm simply asking you, Do you think the 49ers would be in more trouble if we had Stafford instead of Kaep??

Yes.....stafford gets a pass around the league because he was a number 1 pick and his numbers are a product is a s**t ton of attempts and having the best WR in the last 5 years. Personally I take kap over stafford without question.

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:50 PM

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49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by 9moon:
... that's why I'm simply asking you, Do you think the 49ers would be in more trouble if we had Stafford instead of Kaep??

Out of all the guys my picks would be Kaep or Big ben..in no typical order

They are the only two guys that could hold up or run if you have an awful pass protecting OL

[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Jul 23, 2015 at 2:50 PM ]

Jul 23, 2015 at 2:54 PM

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THE ONLY TWO GUYS????

whatever happen to RGIII.... RWilson... even Luck and Cam CAN run..

But if have Kaep and Big Ben as your #1 & #2 QBs... hey, congratulation... more power to you!!!

Jul 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM

#223

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Originally posted by 9moon:
THE ONLY TWO GUYS????

whatever happen to RGIII.... RWilson... even Luck and Cam CAN run..

But if have Kaep and Big Ben as your #1 & #2 QBs... hey, congratulation... more power to you!!!

RGIII LOLOLOL He cant even stay healthy.

Jul 23, 2015 at 3:16 PM

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crake49
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Originally posted by 9moon:

.. our Kaep can't even complete a simple slant.. lol.. anyhowwwwwwwwwwww, don't wanna argue about Kaep, he's a 49er..

Kaepernick can't complete a slat. Hookay, if you want to know why some people around here think you're a troll, that would be exhibit A.

Jul 23, 2015 at 3:24 PM

#225

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Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by lazy:
Originally posted by crake49:
Given what we've seen so far with Stafford, I'm surprised anyone still has him in the top 10. Yes, great arm, good size, decent speed -- but look at the results. The guy is a walking disaster. Puts up great fantasy numbers and that's about it.
Having Megatron as a wide receiver helps make the game of football a lot easier. I think Matthew has a pretty good wide receiving core that allows him to put up video game numbers.

Right. Just watch one of their games and count the number of times Stafford just throws it in his direction no matter how many people are on him.

... and how many of that gets a positive results??

.. our Kaep can't even complete a simple slant.. lol.. anyhowwwwwwwwwwww, don't wanna argue about Kaep, he's a 49er..

Believe what you must, whatever makes you all happy..

TO EACH HIS OWN..

On my life, I'm not trying to troll, but how many excuses would this guy get on the Niners? I definitely think he's over hyped, but let's not diminish his accomplishments. If the Lions were't so one dimensional, he'd be even more dangerous in my opinion.

Are we going to knock Montana because he threw to the greatest receiver in the history of the game. JR might not have been the jump ball king, but he nearly invented YAC.

[ Edited by Oakland-Niner on Jul 23, 2015 at 3:26 PM ]