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pd24 · 2015-05-02T11:19:18-07:00

Each and every draft pick so far has been a very high character guy that is extremely athletic but kind of raw, except the running back Davis. Davis has high character but isn't raw. I think this draft is about getting future leaders and tone setters in place with the loss of Gore, Willis, and possibly Justin Smith. We don't have many leaders and high character guys left outside of Staley, Kap, Bowman. Vernon is probably gone in a year. Reid is one but his health is a concern. I like the idea, get a leadership group in place and then later on you can take risks.

May 2, 2015 at 8:28 PM

#91

SofaKing
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Originally posted by Truman49:
With the first pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the San Francisco 49ers select....

And before you call me a hater, I have been going to games since 1978.

If you honestly believe we'll have the worst record this upcoming season, you know nothing about football. I don't care how long you've been going to the games. This team is still more talented than at least 3/4 of the league.

May 2, 2015 at 8:35 PM

#92

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Originally posted by kray28:
The trend is that Trent Baalke is probably the worst GM in the NFL (when it comes to talent evaluation).

Yea because Bowman, Aldon, Iupati, Anthony Davis, Reid, Borland, Lynch, Kap, Hyde, etc. are all bad. Sure he's missed some, but he's hit on a lot, too.

May 2, 2015 at 8:36 PM

#93

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Originally posted by jreff22:
We don't have the extra roster spot. After this, Lee might demand a trade and we could be stuck with crap. If we needed a punter I would be fine with this but it's been a position of strength for like 10 years. The field position game has always been set by Lee.

lol. C'mon now.

May 2, 2015 at 10:06 PM

#94

RishikeshA
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Step back and let's start making judgements in September.

May 2, 2015 at 11:07 PM

#95

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Originally posted by TheFunkyChicken:
However, the Steelers once again drafted my favorite WR (I had Brown in the 4th way back when, Bryant in the 2nd last year, and Coates in the 2nd this year), and so far they've proven to be much better at scouting that position than the 9ers.

Seems stupid to not draft Martavis Bryant last year in rd 4 (He went after Ellington in 4th)

Coates would be nice, but Smelter should be very good as well.

May 2, 2015 at 11:11 PM

#96

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Originally posted by grizzlyadams:

Originally posted by kray28:
The trend is that Trent Baalke is probably the worst GM in the NFL (when it comes to talent evaluation).

Yea because Bowman, Aldon, Iupati, Anthony Davis, Reid, Borland, Lynch, Kap, Hyde, etc. are all bad. Sure he's missed some, but he's hit on a lot, too.

Baalke is smart, but I think his ego got the better this year and he reached for several picks. But he really loves them, so if they turn out great all will be OK.

May 2, 2015 at 11:11 PM

#97

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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
I see a trend in people using the word,"Raw."

I said that about Armstead to my fiancee Thursday night and she laughed and said she never heard that before. I got mad.

May 2, 2015 at 11:15 PM

#98

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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by jreff22:
We don't have the extra roster spot. After this, Lee might demand a trade and we could be stuck with crap. If we needed a punter I would be fine with this but it's been a position of strength for like 10 years. The field position game has always been set by Lee.

lol. C'mon now.

Yea I LOL'd at that.

May 2, 2015 at 11:18 PM

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Wasn't Aldon supposed to be "raw"? I think a number of these guys can help situationally this season.

May 3, 2015 at 4:32 AM

#100

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Originally posted by kray28:
In this draft, no they did not. Last draft, they didn't either. Who's the "game breaking RB"? Hyde? Okay, I think the jury's still out on that. He broke no games last year though. Who's the "legit deep threat WR"? Baalke is still trying to find one of those. So far...no luck. OL? LMAO....last year's line had Kap running for dear life.

Hyde showed serious flashes last year IMO. Got a lot of short yardage touches. There's potential there. Big time.

Torrey Smith is one of the best deep threats in the game.

I hated the Armstead pick a lot. Still do. But overall Baalke has been strong at evaluating talent.

May 3, 2015 at 4:35 AM

#101

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Originally posted by kray28:
The trend is that Trent Baalke is probably the worst GM in the NFL (when it comes to talent evaluation).

I see a trend on this message board as well:
about three frequent posters will certainly lose their credibility when it comes to GM evaluation. One of them are you.

May 3, 2015 at 5:10 AM

#102

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Originally posted by niners94:
Wasn't Aldon supposed to be "raw"? I think a number of these guys can help situationally this season.

This

May 3, 2015 at 5:15 AM

#103

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Originally posted by jreff22:
But we aren't going to get a great feel for this guy after a few preseason games. We won't know anything until the bullets fly, and we can't go into the season with 2 guys on the roster dueling it out. Any other position and it's a full season battle...but to dump Lee for this guy

We dumped a pro bowl long snapper for an unknown rookie. If he turns out to be that good, you can always trade Lee, but let us wait and see.

May 3, 2015 at 5:21 AM

#104

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Originally posted by Truman49:

Originally posted by NorthBay49er:
I believe it was matt barrows or matt maioco who said to his knowledge 49ers are drafting for 2016 playmakers. We already giving up on 2015 or are we better than i realize? Very heavy project draft so far. Can't say i currently love this draft.

With the first pick in the 2016 NFL draft, the San Francisco 49ers select....

And before you call me a hater, I have been going to games since 1978.

Doesn't mean you know how to be a gm, not kissing up to Baalke, but will wait before I judge. Baalke has said that he doesn't wait to draft for need at that position of that year, like our third rounder, he is insurance in case we can't sign Aldon or one of the OLB gets injured, or having a bad year. Same thing with our WR selection.

May 3, 2015 at 6:09 AM

#105

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first pick yeah right we are loaded with talent. First pick come on man