Colin Kaepernick Thread

People wonder why Kaepernick sometimes seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

MMQB just ran an article ranking the current NFL starters. They've got Andy Dalton rated higher than Kaepernick. Enough said.

Think his stats will increase and he will set some personal records.

3,700 yards
62.5% Completion
26 TD
9 int
7.9 ypa

650 yards rushing
3 Td's
2 Fumbles

Originally posted by genus49:
I saw that and its a crock of sh*t. You're telling me that he's smart 3 quarters in a game but when the 4th quarter starts his brain automatically goes into turnover mode?

It's an unfortunate stat and hopefully one he addresses but Kap has proven to be "clutch" more times than someone who is a liability late in games.

Not saying that but the stats are. I don't necessarily buy it but so far he's lost some games in the 4th quarter than he/they could have won. Losses can be attributed to someone making a glaring mistake or it is a shared effort. Playcalling is a bigger factor than CKs play so far so I've always given him a pass.

But, he has to disprove this by winning the big games. He has done well in the playoffs (4-2 I believe) so that speaks well. Did he play well? or did the team play well? or did the coaches call a great game?

The next step I would like to see from Kaepernick is for the game to slow down and for him to start dictating the game rather than reacting to it. He will need help from the OL but the receivers are now in place. If this happens the offense will be setting records.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
My prediction for Colin Kaepernick's 2015 season

3,832 passing yards
Avg. 9.1 YPA
24 TD Passes
61.2 Completion %
8 INTs'
440 rushing yards
2 rushing TD's
23 Sacks
1 Fumble

A 9.1 yards per attempt with a 62.1% completion is godly. It's like every completion is a chunk play.

I made those predictions based off of watching interviews from Steve Logan and what they want to do as an offense. And that's chunk plays. With VD trying to have a bounce back year and refresh his rapport with Kap, and the addition of T.Smith, improved mechanics from Kap, it's very possible

I like a lot of it. From our baseline projections, that's only 332 more yards in passing and that seems very realistic with the current personnel. Only a few more TD's with slightly less completion percentage which makes sense if we're shooting for more explosive plays, low INT rates still (may have more if we DO try more explosive plays), you have him rushing less with less TD's, etc. Yeah, the only things that may end up being off is the YPA at 9.1 and only 23 sacks. But in either case, THAT would be epic if they ended up being true!

Completion % - 62.5%
Yards - 3,500
TD's - 21
INT's - 10
QB Rating - 90.5
Rushing Yards - 700
Rushing TD's - 5

yeah, 9.1 may be a bit high. His YPA was 8.3 in 2012. I made mine based off that, but if I had a mulligan I'd shoot for 8.5 at least. 23 sacks a little low too, but I would attribute low sack number to play-calling and Kap checking down more this season.

Originally posted by thl408:
I hope you are right. That would be a very explosive passing attack. I crunched the numbers and it would mean a 15 yard per completion average. That's bad ass.

if our line can only give up 23 sacks no question. although 23 from 52 last year is a huge difference. no way in hell Colin gets sacked 52 times this year. Geep experienced it all last season so he knows first hand how our offense failed and where we failed regarding sacks, or just blatant execution. I'd shoot for maybe 26 to refine my guess. Just cut our total last year in half.

Originally posted by crake49:
People wonder why Kaepernick sometimes seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

MMQB just ran an article ranking the current NFL starters. They've got Andy Dalton rated higher than Kaepernick. Enough said.

f**king ridiculous. How many playoff games has Dalton won?

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by defenderDX:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by defenderDX:
My prediction for Colin Kaepernick's 2015 season

3,832 passing yards
Avg. 9.1 YPA
24 TD Passes
61.2 Completion %
8 INTs'
440 rushing yards
2 rushing TD's
23 Sacks
1 Fumble

A 9.1 yards per attempt with a 62.1% completion is godly. It's like every completion is a chunk play.

I made those predictions based off of watching interviews from Steve Logan and what they want to do as an offense. And that's chunk plays. With VD trying to have a bounce back year and refresh his rapport with Kap, and the addition of T.Smith, improved mechanics from Kap, it's very possible

I like a lot of it. From our baseline projections, that's only 332 more yards in passing and that seems very realistic with the current personnel. Only a few more TD's with slightly less completion percentage which makes sense if we're shooting for more explosive plays, low INT rates still (may have more if we DO try more explosive plays), you have him rushing less with less TD's, etc. Yeah, the only things that may end up being off is the YPA at 9.1 and only 23 sacks. But in either case, THAT would be epic if they ended up being true!

Completion % - 62.5%
Yards - 3,500
TD's - 21
INT's - 10
QB Rating - 90.5
Rushing Yards - 700
Rushing TD's - 5

yeah, 9.1 may be a bit high. His YPA was 8.3 in 2012. I made mine based off that, but if I had a mulligan I'd shoot for 8.5 at least. 23 sacks a little low too, but I would attribute low sack number to play-calling and Kap checking down more this season.

Originally posted by thl408:
I hope you are right. That would be a very explosive passing attack. I crunched the numbers and it would mean a 15 yard per completion average. That's bad ass.

if our line can only give up 23 sacks no question. although 23 from 52 last year is a huge difference. no way in hell Colin gets sacked 52 times last year. Geep experienced it all last season so he knows first hand how our offense failed and where we failed regarding sacks, or just blatant execution. I'd shoot for maybe 26 to refine my guess. Just cut our total last year in half.

Yeah, that's exactly why I wasn't fully dismissing those two b/c IF we have a very good run game, the explosive plays could be there in droves with T.Smith, J.Simpson, Ellington, VD, etc. And your point about putting CK in a better situation where he doesn't have to take as many sacks (i.e. has a quick check down on every read, play calling, passing game centered around getting the ball out quickly, etc.) is a very valid one. These predictions would be fun to revisit after the season (not that we ever do...LOL).

Originally posted by Dsoto87:

Originally posted by crake49:
People wonder why Kaepernick sometimes seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

MMQB just ran an article ranking the current NFL starters. They've got Andy Dalton rated higher than Kaepernick. Enough said.

f**king ridiculous. How many playoff games has Dalton won?

Same amount as ryan leaf and jamarcus russel.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, that's exactly why I wasn't fully dismissing those two b/c IF we have a very good run game, the explosive plays could be there in droves with T.Smith, J.Simpson, Ellington, VD, etc. And your point about putting CK in a better situation where he doesn't have to take as many sacks (i.e. has a quick check down on every read, play calling, passing game centered around getting the ball out quickly, etc.) is a very valid one. These predictions would be fun to revisit after the season (not that we ever do...LOL).

LOL. we'll see.

Originally posted by crake49:
Actually, no team has EVER won that game when the opposition put up 34 or more points.

That's true...i meant how many QBs would've won if they scored as many as they did and their defense gave up that many.

Joe would've been 2-2. Tom Brady would've been 0-6 and the Pittsburgh Steelers would only have 1 Lombardi trophy.

Anyone putting that loss on Kap is irrational.

Originally posted by crake49:
People wonder why Kaepernick sometimes seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

MMQB just ran an article ranking the current NFL starters. They've got Andy Dalton rated higher than Kaepernick. Enough said.

Why stop at Dalton?

That article was a joke. Different reasons for each ranking. Some guys he moves up due to recent history, some guys he moves up due to playoff performance, some due to their full career history.

Having Dalton, Derek Carr, Alex Smith(yes I said it), Jay Cutler ahead of him is a big joke.

I could at least see some rationale behind putting Tannehill, Cam Newton and Carson Palmer ahead of Kap right now..tho I'd still take Kap over those guys.

Certainly if the author is grading based on last year Cam Newton has no business being ahead of Kap.

Dalton who managed a passer rating of 2.0 against the Browns!

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
Part of Kaep's failure last year was because he was trying to do too much... the expectation got to him early and often.. the early success in his 1st year as a starter, how the media blew him up and made him forget that he still young and inexperience, and last but not the least, the STAR that he wasn't yet.

It was almost like he needed to make a big play and prove to the whole world that he is what they thought he was suppose to be.. the Super Bowl incompletion, the Richard Sherman INT, it was like Kaep was playing against his own ghost and exorcise those demons..

this year, if he plays within the system just like the year he took over after Alex Smith was injured, we should see a Kaep rise from the ashes again..

"The Storm is Comin"!!

It wasn't the media, it was harbaugh's fault for Kaeps slight regression

I dont know.. I would never blame the coach for a QB's regression.. a team for not being prepared, yes, I could blame the coach, but an individual player, sorry, I just don't see it that way..

Kaep had an awesome year when he took over, no defense was prepared for his style and that also helped.. But the fact is, almost every media, experts, ex players, announcers, had Kaep as the "NEXT" great thing in the NFL.. even Jaworski once said that "this kid could be the best QB of all time"..

.. and with all those being said, and Kaep hearing them, I don't believe that it did not get into his head somehow.. and once it got in his head, HUMBLE PIE was served..

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by crake49:
People wonder why Kaepernick sometimes seems to have a chip on his shoulder.

MMQB just ran an article ranking the current NFL starters. They've got Andy Dalton rated higher than Kaepernick. Enough said.

Why stop at Dalton?

That article was a joke. Different reasons for each ranking. Some guys he moves up due to recent history, some guys he moves up due to playoff performance, some due to their full career history.

Having Dalton, Derek Carr, Alex Smith(yes I said it), Jay Cutler ahead of him is a big joke.

I could at least see some rationale behind putting Tannehill, Cam Newton and Carson Palmer ahead of Kap right now..tho I'd still take Kap over those guys.

Certainly if the author is grading based on last year Cam Newton has no business being ahead of Kap.

Yup. There's definitely some degree of confirmation bias among these pundits when it comes to Kap. It's just fashionable to over-critique him right now. None of their arguments putting those QBs ahead of Kap make any sense. The stats, W-L records, film study, and playoff performances simply don't support it.

I mean s**t, Andy Dalton? He of 0-4 playoff record? 1 TD / 6 INT, 57.8 QB rating.......this guy is a better player than Kap? Don't even get me started with Tannehill, Newton, Palmer, Cutler, or whoever else they listed. What have those QBs done that Kap hasn't already surpassed in a shorter amount of time?

Kap is 4-2 in the playoffs. Led his team to victory multiple times, making big plays in big games. He has a better career QB rating and winning % than many of these QBs who are supposedly superior to him.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Part of Kaep's failure last year was because he was trying to do too much... the expectation got to him early and often.. the early success in his 1st year as a starter, how the media blew him up and made him forget that he still young and inexperience, and last but not the least, the STAR that he wasn't yet.

It was almost like he needed to make a big play and prove to the whole world that he is what they thought he was suppose to be.. the Super Bowl incompletion, the Richard Sherman INT, it was like Kaep was playing against his own ghost and exorcise those demons..

this year, if he plays within the system just like the year he took over after Alex Smith was injured, we should see a Kaep rise from the ashes again..

"The Storm is Comin"!!

It wasn't the media, it was harbaugh's fault for Kaeps slight regression

I dont know.. I would never blame the coach for a QB's regression.. a team for not being prepared, yes, I could blame the coach, but an individual player, sorry, I just don't see it that way..

Kaep had an awesome year when he took over, no defense was prepared for his style and that also helped.. But the fact is, almost every media, experts, ex players, announcers, had Kaep as the "NEXT" great thing in the NFL.. even Jaworski once said that "this kid could be the best QB of all time"..

.. and with all those being said, and Kaep hearing them, I don't believe that it did not get into his head somehow.. and once it got in his head, HUMBLE PIE was served..

Play calling plays a HUGE part in a QB progression IMO...and we can all agree it (the play calling) was down right awful. So yeah you can put some of the blame on the coaching staff for not putting a player in a position to do well.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Part of Kaep's failure last year was because he was trying to do too much... the expectation got to him early and often.. the early success in his 1st year as a starter, how the media blew him up and made him forget that he still young and inexperience, and last but not the least, the STAR that he wasn't yet.

It was almost like he needed to make a big play and prove to the whole world that he is what they thought he was suppose to be.. the Super Bowl incompletion, the Richard Sherman INT, it was like Kaep was playing against his own ghost and exorcise those demons..

this year, if he plays within the system just like the year he took over after Alex Smith was injured, we should see a Kaep rise from the ashes again..

"The Storm is Comin"!!

It wasn't the media, it was harbaugh's fault for Kaeps slight regression

I dont know.. I would never blame the coach for a QB's regression.. a team for not being prepared, yes, I could blame the coach, but an individual player, sorry, I just don't see it that way..

Kaep had an awesome year when he took over, no defense was prepared for his style and that also helped.. But the fact is, almost every media, experts, ex players, announcers, had Kaep as the "NEXT" great thing in the NFL.. even Jaworski once said that "this kid could be the best QB of all time"..

.. and with all those being said, and Kaep hearing them, I don't believe that it did not get into his head somehow.. and once it got in his head, HUMBLE PIE was served..

Do you really believe what you are saying right now?

The coach has everything to do with all of his players progression...and the most important position he is responsible for is the QB