Colin Kaepernick Thread

Originally posted by SundayTicket:
I've always been under the impression guaranteed means no matter what we do with him it's guaranteed money. I guess it's only guaranteed money at signing then that I'm mistaken on

Yeah, if you remember, people criticized him for being such a patsy with his team-friendly contract. Some people think the team screwed him by signing that contract under false pretenses. I've read that he specifically told the organization that he would do a team-friendly contract so that they could retain and gather good talent. Bottom line is that it's almost totally performance-based. This is one reason why I don't buy this Kaepernick is a bad team mate story. That seems like something a guy who is all about the team would do.

Unfortunately, he didn't hold up his part of the bargain too well. But, they didn't spend any serious money on his line either.

Originally posted by TheXFactor:
What are everyone's thoughts on if we traded him to the Rams for Foles and a pick?

you never trade within your division

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Originally posted by crake49:

Originally posted by SundayTicket:

Maybe the thought of us already giving him 61$million guarenteed and another 50million over these next years is what has most of us annoyed for the product he's helping give out on the field.

Well then you can rid yourself of this concern. That's not the way his contract works. There's no '61$million' guaranteed at all. Every year they have the option of letting him walk. If he isn't gone this year and if he doesn't perform, the team doesn't owe him another 50 mil.

I've always been under the impression guaranteed means no matter what we do with him it's guaranteed money. I guess it's only guaranteed money at signing then that I'm mistaken on

If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Benoit didn't say anything that Greg Cosell and countless others haven't said. If you think that he is off-base, why not list what you thinkhe is wrong about and provide examples to show how he is wrong, because to me, everything he wrote is right on the money and backed up 100% by what you see in the game film.

And then there is Kaepernick's poor understanding for why certain plays are called. Case in point: multiple times in recent years, the Niners have opened a game with a simple fullback flare pass to the flat. It's a play you call to get your QB comfortable and to put yourself in at least second-down-and-medium right out of the gates. There isn't a more basic concept in pro football. Unfortunately, Kaepernick, several times, has failed to pull the trigger on these throws, opting instead to kick off the game with a randomized, sandlot throw. That he's repeated this mistake more than once is baffling, especially considering that he threw an interception in this scenario on the first play of the Raiders game two years ago. (The Niners went on to lose that one.)

If a nearly four-year starting quarterback can't be trusted to even attempt—let alone complete—something like a fullback flare on the game's first play, then he can't be trusted. You can't construct, let alone perfect, a passing attack with such instability.

I just read that article and is spot on both Kap and RGIII
They lack basic fundamental skills(specially mental) to play QB in NFL.
Some things can be correct or improved(mechanics, footwork release) but mental part of the game(antecipation, feel, vision, decision making, reads) you have it or you don't.

Kap and RGIII clearly don't

Originally posted by Jiks:
If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Except Kaepernick's deal is more like a series of one year contracts. If he was healthy, the 49ers could cut him with minimal cap hit before April 1st.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jiks:

If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Except Kaepernick's deal is more like a series of one year contracts. If he was healthy, the 49ers could cut him with minimal cap hit before April 1st.

He's still gaureteed 61 mill though isn't he? Isn't that what a guarentee is?

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jiks:
If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Except Kaepernick's deal is more like a series of one year contracts. If he was healthy, the 49ers could cut him with minimal cap hit before April 1st.

He's still gaureteed 61 mill though isn't he? Isn't that what a guarentee is?

Phoenix is right - it's actually a series on 1-year contracts. $61 mil was NEVER guaranteed. Sports media!!! Scrambling our brains with incompetence since I don't know when.

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jiks:

If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Except Kaepernick's deal is more like a series of one year contracts. If he was healthy, the 49ers could cut him with minimal cap hit before April 1st.

He's still gaureteed 61 mill though isn't he? Isn't that what a guarentee is?

that guarantee total is still only valid on a year to year basis tho.

Originally posted by Jiks:
He's still gaureteed 61 mill though isn't he? Isn't that what a guarentee is?

If he goes through the entire life of the contract, yes.


If he were healthy and they cut him today, the cap hit would just be a few million and the rest of the contract would be meaningless. Its why people were so stunned that Kaepernick's agent agreed to such a deal.

The guarantees in Kaepernick's contract do not vest until April 1, which is another sign San Francisco gave itself time to think things through. Many other players' contracts vest in February and March, so the 49ers could part ways with him before April 1, 2016 and save $9.36 million in salary cap, per OverTheCap.com, as well as the remainder of his salary.

Truly, the only guarantee in Kaepernick's contract is the $61 million in injury protection. And in terms of real money, cutting Kaepernick before April 1 means the 49ers will responsible for only the rest of the prorated signing bonus -- $7,397,259 -- according to ESPN Stats and Information.

According to OverTheCap.com, Kaepernick's relatively "miniscule signing bonus" of $12.3 million shows the team hedged its bet since signing bonuses and fully guaranteed salary are what "helps protect a player from release both from cap consequences due to acceleration of money and the mental impact of sinking so much cash into a player and then releasing him."

Idc if we trade him for a bag of lays. Just get rid of this bum

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Jiks:

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Jiks:

If a team releases a player before paying part of that player's guaranteed salary or guaranteed bonus, the team still must pay that money. This doesn't happen very frequently, however. In most cases, the player has already received all guaranteed money by the time he's released. The remainder of the contract vanishes.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/73449/how-do-contracts-work-glad-you-asked

Except Kaepernick's deal is more like a series of one year contracts. If he was healthy, the 49ers could cut him with minimal cap hit before April 1st.

He's still gaureteed 61 mill though isn't he? Isn't that what a guarentee is?

that guarantee total is still only valid on a year to year basis tho.

Hmmm. Gotcha. Learn something new everyday. Seems pointless, the more I read.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Idc if we trade him for a bag of lays. Just get rid of this bum

if he swallows his pride and admit he could have done some things better in the locker room
if he would show more leadership
if he would work more on his mechanics and less on lifting weights
if he would put into actual play on the field what he works on in the off season
if he would be more mentally tough
if he would stop being so jumpy in the pocket, no matter how bad or good the line is

then i would be ok with him back competing. alot of if's there

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Idc if we trade him for a bag of lays. Just get rid of this bum

if he swallows his pride and admit he could have done some things better in the locker room
if he would show more leadership
if he would work more on his mechanics and less on lifting weights
if he would put into actual play on the field what he works on in the off season
if he would be more mentally tough
if he would stop being so jumpy in the pocket, no matter how bad or good the line is

then i would be ok with him back competing. alot of if's there

If he could get his confidence back after Mathieu took his lunch last year. Bullying comes in all form. Just has to over come it some how.

Originally posted by Aj_hwd954:
Idc if we trade him for a bag of lays. Just get rid of this bum

I just want to remark on how amazing it is that this is the post at the top of page 2000

We will not trade Kap because nobody wants Kap via trade.
If is in the waivers I guess 1 or 2 teams will look at him, via trade nobody will touch him