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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Please source this. And LOL @ "NFL personalities". That's real credible.

Greg Cosell. Steve Young. Trent Dilfer. All have commented multiple times on his issues with going through progressions, bad mechanics....etc.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by pd24:
What about most nfl personalities and scouts that have been on record saying Kap isn't very good and can't usually go past 1 read and can't read a defense? Should we believe TK over actual football experts?

Please source this. And LOL @ "NFL personalities". That's real credible.
It is literally everyone from the National media that talks about him on TV or radio
Originally posted by pd24:
Ya most, there is rarely anyone in the national media that thinks Kap is good and Casserley always comes on the radio the day after games and usually says Kap isn't very good but says it in a nice way

I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.
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Even Kurt Warner was calling him bad last year amd was like I didn't teach him that. Lol
Originally posted by pd24:
It is literally everyone from the National media that talks about him on TV or radio

Then come out with it. Shouldn't be difficult.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
He's the only player that did any real damage to Seattle the year they were on fire. That same defense completely shutdown the highest scoring offense in NFL history that year. After that, our WRs really had a hard time getting open and they had Gores number.

2012-L-42-13

2013-L-29-3

2013-W-19-17

2013-L-23-17

2014-L-19-3

2014-L-17-7

2015-L-20-3

Kaepernick- 1-6 total record vs Seattle.

Average PPG=9.

I'm sure guys like Sherman and Thomas will rest easier once Kaepernick is out of the division.

It takes a complete team to beat Seattle. Frank Gore, Boldin and Crabs (slow as crap) aren't scaring anyone. Vagina Davis wasn't moving the chains either. When Kap did have success (which is a relative term with Seattle), it was a near one man show.

With that said, just because TK might be wrong on one thing doesn't mean he's wrong on everything. If that logic was true, I would read anything anyone says on this forum, especially the FO yes man crew.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by pd24:
Ya most, there is rarely anyone in the national media that thinks Kap is good and Casserley always comes on the radio the day after games and usually says Kap isn't very good but says it in a nice way

I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.
Just watch TV or go through twitter profiles or listen to the radio days after games.
TK is 100% correct about the front office. However you just can't act as if CK's regression is all on the front office. He simply hasn't taken that next step.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by pd24:
It is literally everyone from the National media that talks about him on TV or radio

Then come out with it. Shouldn't be difficult.

You post someone that thinks he is good.
Originally posted by pd24:
Even Kurt Warner was calling him bad last year amd was like I didn't teach him that. Lol

That is not what you said. I'm still waiting.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by titan:
I'm not surprise at all, I'm surprised you think he isn't! Im starting to think he believes he can't beat Gabbert out!

This makes no sense. So he's willing to go to another team that will likely have stiffer competition than Gabbert? Man, there is irreparable damage done to that relationship. The end.

So you think if a team trades for him they won't make him the starter? Theres no damage relationship between him and Chip! He is a professional, though he is not acting like one, but a hurt feeling report is apparently enough to justify poor attitude.
Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by pd24:
What about most nfl personalities and scouts that have been on record saying Kap isn't very good and can't usually go past 1 read and can't read a defense? Should we believe TK over actual football experts?

Please source this. And LOL @ "NFL personalities". That's real credible.
It is literally everyone from the National media that talks about him on TV or radio
You should know by now all those NFL personalities are banwagoners.
Originally posted by pd24:
You post someone that thinks he is good.

WTF?

This is what you said: "What about most nfl personalities and scouts that have been on record saying Kap isn't very good and can't usually go past 1 read and can't read a defense?"

So I am waiting.
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Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by pd24:
Even Kurt Warner was calling him bad last year amd was like I didn't teach him that. Lol

That is not what you said. I'm still waiting.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/cosell-kaepernick-difficult-watch-49ers-qb-seeing-ghosts
Originally posted by Blindfury:
I want to see what was actually said. You said Most, well it shouldn't be difficult to provide proof.





Pete Prisco ‎@PriscoCBS Kaepernick has not progressed at all as a passer

9:10 PM - 27 Nov 2014






But let me give you an example - the first play of the game he threw an interception. That play is a microcosm of what's wrong. The play was called to get him an easy completion in the flat to Miller. That's why the play was called. I'm not going to describe the entire play to you. Take my word for it, I've seen a lot of football as you guys know. And Kaepernick seemed to have no sense of the play. He waited in the pocket for something that was really not part of the play. It was designed to throw it to Miller in the flat, gain six yards, boom - you're 2nd and 4. He doesn't do that; then he starts running around, and he tries to make a random play and it results in an interception.

Now that has nothing to do with anything other than Kaepernick. It was the first play of the game; they were trying to help him. The play was there. You throw it to Miller and you get six yards, maybe eight yards. I can't tell you why he didn't throw it. Only he can tell you why he didn't throw it.

And then of course on the 1st play of the 2nd possession, they probably do what a lot of people want them to do more of which is get Kaepernick to use his legs, and it's a designed quarterback sweep that loses 7 yards. So these things can be debated forever, but the reality is there's a number of issues and Kaepernick is one of those issues. He's not playing well, and he knows it. Harbaugh knows it. They all know it. They know more than I do. They're living with this every day, but it's very evident when you watch the tape.-Greg Cosell






"For those who believe that the 49ers were not using him properly, I would disagree with that totally," Cosell said. "Look at the first seven or eight plays of the game this past week. What they did was, they did boot-action, play-action boot, which defines a read and gives you an easy throw. They did read-option. But then it got to be 3rd and 3 and they wanted to throw the ball with a drop-back pass game, which is standard operating procedure in the NFL. You have to do that somewhere in the NFL.

"And this a perfect example of being locked up -- he had Vernon Davis running the crosser versus McDonald, wide open, right in his field of vision. He did not see that, or it did not register and instead he threw it to Patton who was really well-covered on the shallow cross. It was another example of a big-play opportunity missed because he just didn't see it."-Greg Cosell






A very concerning issue for San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick after 41 starts is his lack of clarity in the pocket.

He still struggles to relate route concepts to coverage and quickly isolate where to go with the ball. And there are far too many snaps in which Kaeperick hits his back foot and immediately breaks down with no pressure.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-s-film-review--colin-kaepernick-vs--russell-wilson-222802232.html
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