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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Sigh. We just won't agree. Not a fan of throwing out the baby with the bathwater. I heard similar argument in regards to Alex Smith who then took them to an NFCCG and then increased his worth enough to trade him for 2 2st round picks.
Originally posted by Heroism:
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Let's see, CAM is physically bigger and stronger and plays that way (Why Cam leaps into the End Zone for TDs and does QB sneaks, while Kap never runs those plays and one time he did vs the RAMS he fumbled. remember that one???).
LMAO.
Tyrod Taylor made the probowl while kap is swirling around the toilet bowl...SMH.hopefully chip flushes him.
Originally posted by titan:
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by titan:
I am a die hard 49ers fan. I like to see all of our players bounce back despite how I feel about their character.
Good for you. You can root for the over rated, self centered, fame seeking, and now ill fated Kap while I root for BG as the starter.
Have a good day
Oh ok! No need to throw a wink it's more creepy rather than thinking your making a valid point. Lol
Originally posted by Irish40Niner:
Funny thing... dirt is highly useful, probably wouldn't be able to live without it. Lol
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by DonnieDarko:His numbers were worse, he wasnt getting better.
So throwing for more yards and throwing two more INTs equals worse...dude give it a rest. You don't like him we get it. I'm not saying he's the long term answer but IMO he's our best option this year. Yes better than Blaine.
Whoa a lot of assumptions here. His passer rating has been decreasing ever since 2012 & his Pass TDs have decreased since 2012 as well. So yeah it equals worse, not by much, but definitely not improving. I'm fine with Kap & Blaine battling it out in TC, don't strongly care who wins.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by sevenup3000:
I literally cannot believe people on here think that Luck's problem is a lack of defense.
Again, Luck is a good, young QB. But if Luck had Newton's WRs, Wilson's OL, Kaep's dysfunctional front office...
And played in a system that did not cater to his strengths (Newton, Wilson, and Keap often have to overcome their OCs...while Luck gets to hand pick his OC)...Andrew Luck might seriously double the worst turnover rate by a QB in NFL history.
Trying to make it appear that Luck is not at fault because he doesn't have Newton, Kaep, or Wilson's defense while ignoring the fact that Luck plays on one of the league's most stacked offenses and in an absolutely horrible division is the height of eating too much glue.
Right now Newton & Wilson are at the top of the list, Luck & Kap are battling it out for the bottom. If you polled all NFL fans, I'm positive the majority, would rather have Luck than Kap.
Originally posted by crake49:
I find it kind of creepy the way some fans around here seem to think of Kaepernick the way Captain Ahab thought of the great white whale.
"Oh ye quarterback who has failed us!
I stab at thee for hate's sake!"
Calm down, Kaepernick haters. Remember. Less is more.
Originally posted by sevenup3000:
I will say it again. As a Panthers fan, there is very little difference between Newton, Kaepernick, Wilson, and Luck. Some are a little better than others at one aspect...but then not as good as the others. But ONLY in the case of Luck is the fan base willing to give him the time and EXPERIENCE necessary to learn, adjust, and grow. ONLY Luck gets this benefit.
The sad thing is that Wilson, Kaepernick, and now Newton have in 4 straight years, played in the Superbowl. Wilson was a yard away from being back to back champion...and Kaepernick about 5 yards from winning a Superbowl too. Yet it is Luck that is given all the benefit of the doubt.
Not Newton, Not Kaepernick, Not Wilson...but the great Andrew Luck...
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
His numbers were worse, he wasnt getting better.
So throwing for more yards and throwing two more INTs equals worse...dude give it a rest. You don't like him we get it. I'm not saying he's the long term answer but IMO he's our best option this year. Yes better than Blaine.
Whoa a lot of assumptions here. His passer rating has been decreasing ever since 2012 & his Pass TDs have decreased since 2012 as well. So yeah it equals worse, not by much, but definitely not improving. I'm fine with Kap & Blaine battling it out in TC, don't strongly care who wins.
If you don't care who wins what are you even agruing about? There aren't any QB in the draft or FA that are studs that can start day one. This is what we have too work with and I think chip's offense would at the very least make Kap a servicable QB until we can find that true #1 and holy hell if he actually plays well lol.
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by crake49:
I find it kind of creepy the way some fans around here seem to think of Kaepernick the way Captain Ahab thought of the great white whale.
"Oh ye quarterback who has failed us!
I stab at thee for hate's sake!"
Calm down, Kaepernick haters. Remember. Less is more.
Goes both ways. But the reality is Kap is still DONE with the 49ers, none of the talk on here will change that. One will be proven right the other wrong shortly.
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:bait you into what ?, to actually prove your ranting of BS
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:do you ever post anything to prove your statements ?
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Good for you. You can root for the over rated, self centered, fame seeking, and now ill fated Kap while I root for BG as the starter.
Have a good day
Sounds personal.
Jayniece Pritchett is that you?
Personal? LOL!!!
Some people just can't handle the truth, like most of the kap die hards on here, oh well.
truth is....your posts sound like a dude shouting at himself in a downtown bus stop.
Your posts, especially in response to my posts are as useful as dirt
Both: don't.
I don't even want to bother with him, he just keeps trying to bait me, because he hates me like I burn his house down or something
Originally posted by sevenup3000:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by sevenup3000:
I literally cannot believe people on here think that Luck's problem is a lack of defense.
Again, Luck is a good, young QB. But if Luck had Newton's WRs, Wilson's OL, Kaep's dysfunctional front office...
And played in a system that did not cater to his strengths (Newton, Wilson, and Keap often have to overcome their OCs...while Luck gets to hand pick his OC)...Andrew Luck might seriously double the worst turnover rate by a QB in NFL history.
Trying to make it appear that Luck is not at fault because he doesn't have Newton, Kaep, or Wilson's defense while ignoring the fact that Luck plays on one of the league's most stacked offenses and in an absolutely horrible division is the height of eating too much glue.
Right now Newton & Wilson are at the top of the list, Luck & Kap are battling it out for the bottom. If you polled all NFL fans, I'm positive the majority, would rather have Luck than Kap.
The majority of NFL fans would also want Tannehill over Wilson. If you go to MOST NFL boards, NFL "fans" would want Manziel over Teddy, Taylor, Winston, and RGIII
Let's not get into what a "majority of NFL fans" want out of their QBs. Chief among them being a QB that looks more like them...than like Cam, Wilson, Taylor, Winston, RGIII, Teddy, Kaepernick.
Originally posted by mojave45:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Couldn't agree more with just about all of that.
I'm not going to try and sell anyone that Kape WILL come back and be the great QB we all hoped he would be in 2012-2013, but I am certainly not ready to give up on the guy. There were ALOT of factors that go into the way he's played and he is responsible for MANY of them, but certainly not all.
Kaep was his best when they weren't messing with him. He was best when he was simply playing and not trying to be something he wasn't. I think the one thing we HAVE learned in this process is that he will never be a pure pocket passer...and that's OK.
"Mobile" zone-read QBs have now represented the NFC in the Super Bowl in 4 consecutive years (Kap, WIlson, Wilson, Newton). The AFC QBs have been named Brady, Manning...and Flacco (sigh). Anyone who says it doesn't work or that you need a pure pocket passer to win isn't paying attention.
This isn't just a "Chip likes mobile QBs so we need to give Kap a chance" argument. This is a "zone-read mobile QBs have been shown to be able to win in big games and we should give the one we have a shot with an OC who has a clue" argument.
Everyone in the media makes a big deal out of April 1st. I think it's a non-issue. I don't see them releasing him. Why? They could be as much as 60 mil under that WITH him on the roster. There is a salary cap and and a salary floor which means they HAVE to spend a ton of money in Free Agency this year. It might even be hard to get some guys simply because of the rep of Chip Kelly. IE, they may NEED Kaps contract in order to meet the salary floor.
Even if thats not the case and they are able to sign a number of guys to contracts and reach that floor, there is no big push for them to let Kap go for nothing when he is reasonable priced by QB standards and they can give him a shot with Chip and see what happens.
If they want to trade him, April 1st isn't a problem. They can still trade him because his contract will be guaranteed by whomever picks up the contract or they can trade him and the other team will renegotiate his deal with him. Either way, April 1st has nothing to do with any trade.
I have no idea if Chip can turn Kap around, but IMO its worth a shot and they have little issue with the contract to make it happen.
This is the first time I have heard the idea floated that we might need Kaepernick to reach our minimum salary "floor", lol.
I don't think we just release him, due to some arbitrary April 1 date. He is finally back in Santa Clara, and working in his rehab there. Chip met with him again today. Unless a decision has already been made by the FO I expect to see him in TC. We could still see a trade at some point I guess, if the team decides it what needs to be done, but I don't think the argument about keeping him because we couldn't attract FA signers because of Chip,is realistic. At all. And not worthy of consideration. If we decided to spend an extra $10m, we would be able to.
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:Actually Gabbert is done, has small hands, his noodle arm cant even throw the ball past the line of scrimmage all because he wears his shoes on backwards (joedontknow post)
Originally posted by crake49:
I find it kind of creepy the way some fans around here seem to think of Kaepernick the way Captain Ahab thought of the great white whale.
"Oh ye quarterback who has failed us!
I stab at thee for hate's sake!"
Calm down, Kaepernick haters. Remember. Less is more.
Goes both ways. But the reality is Kap is still DONE with the 49ers, none of the talk on here will change that. One will be proven right the other wrong shortly.
Originally posted by JoeMoKnows:
Originally posted by crake49:
I find it kind of creepy the way some fans around here seem to think of Kaepernick the way Captain Ahab thought of the great white whale.
"Oh ye quarterback who has failed us!
I stab at thee for hate's sake!"
Calm down, Kaepernick haters. Remember. Less is more.
Goes both ways. But the reality is Kap is still DONE with the 49ers, none of the talk on here will change that. One will be proven right the other wrong shortly.
