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ChipDouglas510 · 2015-04-09T22:10:05-07:00

Come on gentlemen, keep it civil.

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:10 PM

jreff22
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
It's not 30 points per game when you subtract ST TD's and pick 6's.

The D didn't give up that many points in the Super Bowl. 27 if you subtract a returned kick. Plus the LMJ fumble had them in our territory if I remember correctly.

GB didn't score that much on us. They put up 24, the other points came from a pick 6.

Take out the abomination of Seattle because the offense couldn't do anything, and correct for ST TD's and other stuff and the numbers come down.

The numbers come down, but not enough to be respectable man. And the LMJ fumble didn't have them in our territory, they took over on their own 25. But keep trying to take credit from the guy that deserved it that playoff run

It is respectable. It puts us tied for 3rd for postseason stats. And regular season numbers were still top 5. You can't blame the defense for scores out of their control.

The defense held Baltimore to enough points to win, it's a fact.

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:13 PM

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CharlieSheen
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Originally posted by jreff22:
It is respectable. It puts us tied for 3rd for postseason stats. And regular season numbers were still top 5. You can't blame the defense for scores out of their control.

The defense held Baltimore to enough points to win, it's a fact.

Yes because our offense kicked ass. They gave up 27 points dude. Just stop lol

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:19 PM

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The D let the team down during that SB run. How this is still debated is beyond me.

[ Edited by Blindfury on Jan 20, 2016 at 9:20 PM ]

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:21 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
It is respectable. It puts us tied for 3rd for postseason stats. And regular season numbers were still top 5. You can't blame the defense for scores out of their control.

The defense held Baltimore to enough points to win, it's a fact.

Yes because our offense kicked ass. They gave up 27 points dude. Just stop lol

And Baltimores top D gave up 31. Seattles great D gave up 28 last year.

It's not like we had 40 points scored on us. Kap did nothing in the first half. For being worn down, injured, playing a whole half with little help, and still holding the opposing team to enough points for us to win....yeah they deserve no credit

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:27 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
And Baltimores top D gave up 31. Seattles great D gave up 28 last year.

It's not like we had 40 points scored on us. Kap did nothing in the first half. For being worn down, injured, playing a whole half with little help, and still holding the opposing team to enough points for us to win....yeah they deserve no credit

Yea they gave up 31 and were lucky to get bailed out by a kick return. Seattle gave up 28....and lost. Sorry man, but no, the defense doesn't deserve credit for having 27 dropped on them just because our offense played well

[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 20, 2016 at 9:28 PM ]

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:31 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
And Baltimores top D gave up 31. Seattles great D gave up 28 last year.

It's not like we had 40 points scored on us. Kap did nothing in the first half. For being worn down, injured, playing a whole half with little help, and still holding the opposing team to enough points for us to win....yeah they deserve no credit

Yea they gave up 31 and were lucky to get bailed out by a kick return. Seattle gave up 28....and lost. Sorry man, but no, the defense doesn't deserve credit for having 27 dropped on them just because our offense played well

Why did we only score 6 points in the first half?

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:33 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
Why did we only score 6 points in the first half?

LMJ fumble, and that was a good red zone defense.

Why did Brady only put up 13 the entire game against that defense? Why was Luck only able to score 9 points?

[ Edited by CharlieSheen on Jan 20, 2016 at 9:34 PM ]

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:36 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Why did we only score 6 points in the first half?

LMJ fumble, and that was a good red zone defense.

Why did Brady only put up 13 the entire game? Why was Luck only able to score 9 points?

So you see no correlation between the offense not being able to sustain drives/score and the defense being on the field a whole half and giving up points?

If the offense was productive in the first half do you think the outcome is different?

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:44 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
So you see no correlation between the offense not being able to sustain drives/score and the defense being on the field a whole half and giving up points?

If the offense was productive in the first half do you think the outcome is different?

They did sustain drives. They only had one 3 and out in the first half lol. I'm sorry but a defense isn't tired after 1 quarter even if we did go 3 and out on every drive.

You can try to spin it however you want, but the fact is that was a really good defense that stifled really good QBs and we put up 31 points. I know why you can't accept how great Kap played that playoff run, but you need to get over it bud

Jan 20, 2016 at 9:52 PM

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Originally posted by Blindfury:
The D let the team down during that SB run. How this is still debated is beyond me.

It's not debatable. The D was awful during that playoff run. Kap was brilliant in the '12 playoffs. He carried us.

Jan 20, 2016 at 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
So you see no correlation between the offense not being able to sustain drives/score and the defense being on the field a whole half and giving up points?

If the offense was productive in the first half do you think the outcome is different?

They did sustain drives. They only had one 3 and out in the first half lol. I'm sorry but a defense isn't tired after 1 quarter even if we did go 3 and out on every drive.

You can try to spin it however you want, but the fact is that was a really good defense that stifled really good QBs and we put up 31 points. I know why you can't accept how great Kap played that playoff run, but you need to get over it bud

There is nothing to get over. You need to not s**t on a historically good defense that got him into the post season and held Baltimore to enough points to win.

We had one long sustained drive in the first half. We didn't punt much because LMJ fumbled and Kap threw a pick.

[ Edited by jreff22 on Jan 20, 2016 at 10:11 PM ]

Jan 20, 2016 at 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by jreff22:
There is nothing to get over. You need to not s**t on a historically good defense that got him into the post season and held Baltimore to enough points to win.

It's not s****ing on them. It's just fact. They didn't play well when it mattered and it cost us. I'm not the only person saying that. You're definitely in the minority saying the defense played well lol

Jan 20, 2016 at 10:13 PM

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In what world is 34 points considered enough points to win? Especially in a super bowl.

Jan 20, 2016 at 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
The D let the team down during that SB run. How this is still debated is beyond me.

It's not debatable. The D was awful during that playoff run. Kap was brilliant in the '12 playoffs. He carried us.

Yeah. The man was making plays.

SEA rattled him big time. He needs to get that monkey off his back and beat them in SEA and actually play well.

This is his last chance. He is on another short leash. I expect him to come out of TC the starter.

Jan 20, 2016 at 10:21 PM

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jreff22
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Originally posted by CharlieSheen:
Originally posted by jreff22:
There is nothing to get over. You need to not s**t on a historically good defense that got him into the post season and held Baltimore to enough points to win.

It's not s****ing on them. It's just fact. They didn't play well when it mattered and it cost us. I'm not the only person saying that. You're definitely in the minority saying the defense played well lol

The first half was 2 punts, 2 FG's, and 2 turnovers. The offense wasn't playing well when it mattered either. Start of the 3rd quarter we had a ST TD given up and then immediatly punted the next series.

It wasn't until the middle of the 3rd quarter that the offense began to actually function. So don't try to paint this picture of an offense playing lights out.