Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by Blindfury:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This. It would be different if he were looking downfield first and worked his way to other progressions, ultimately dumping it off if guys were covered. It would also be different if he had better peripheral vision. Kap will get you big plays, but if those plays are covered, he's toast. If we had him under a cheap deal, I'd want the team to get a real QB coach to develop him, but you can't be in development when you are paid more than 3 million a season.
I think teaching him to check the ball down is a pretty easy task. There seems to be no other fanbase that's enamored with checking the ball down. I mean, Gabbert was earning praise mainly from his propensity to check the ball down early and often. Until people realized that doesn't win you games. Just keeps the rating high.
Unless you're the NE fans. Brady throws, "checkdown" passes all the time. Much like Montana and Young did. The, "checkdown" throws, I'm assuming are the short curls, swing passes, short outs, drags, snag and hook routes. Those are all staple WCO routes that Bill Walsh rElie heavily upon. What made his offense so dangerous was that they incorporated the deep routes with underneath, complimentary routes that; if you took away the deep play, it left an athlete open in space. That way, there was always the possibility-not necessarily the guarantee, of the big play. To quote Bill Walsh- "out offense is one designed so that we will first look for the big play, but still have the ability to move the ball and get it into the hands of our playmaker if the big play isn't there."
Personally, we've seen 4 years of kaep not,"getting it" to move to his checkdown quickly enough, or at all, to keep the offense moving. It's often feast or famine with him. You can't tell me it's coaching because both the guy before him and after him have, as the fans say, "check the ball down too much" so, when 2/3 qb's checkdown too much amd the other not at all-its not coaching. That's personal decision s by the qb's themselves.
still waiting for you to break down Gabbert's performances against the Bears, Browns, and Bengals. I know you've been busy.. but hopefully you have free time soon or after the season.
as far as your post...
Alex got replaced in mid season because he "check down too much", where as Kap threw the ball beyond the sticks.
as far as you saying he isn't coached to look for the big play, even at the expense of losing checkdown opportunities...and he's doing it on his own..
Logan said. "You can take a young man, put him in an offense and really encourage him to hit the check down. Then suddenly you look up and he's completing 68 or 70 percent of his passes and that's wonderful.
"But what did you sacrifice to get that done. Well now we don't have a vertical passing game. You have to be careful with completion percentage."
Logan has already spoke with Kaepernick about sacrificing his completion percentage to put more points on the board.
"One day I was talking to Colin while watching some Arizona film. Now what does Arizona do? They pressure, pressure, pressure," Logan said. "So I said, 'Colin, in games like this, we've got to be willing to sacrifice completion percentage for explosion plays.'
"Just imagine he goes out there and completes three explosion plays to give us 21 points and comes out of the game 48 percent complete. Well, let's go have a glass of wine. I'm good to go."
a glass of wine would've went well with an Offensive line that allowed this approach they wanted to take.
there is a disconnect there somewhere with the QB Coach, OC, and Head Coach. I don't know who is in charge of making changes to personnel. Kap has always been known to followed exactly what his coaches have wanted him to do, on the field...off the field, like keeping mum with reporters, at the expense of his perceived character. If his coaches wanted him to checkdown more often, he would have.
[ Edited by Afrikan on Dec 25, 2015 at 1:50 AM ]
