49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
I asked this before and got no answers, so will try again.

In the waning days of PreSeason, with just a few days before kickoff, why did we sign Pope...and more to the point, why did Bellichek sign 3 new OLs 4 days before season opener. I assume kyle and BB could have signed these guys sooner, unless they were cuts....which may have been the case. But other teams signed unknown OLs also just prior to opening day. Why? Just guessing, it must be from cuts that HCs were working thru. No?

The only thing that makes sense seems to be these OLs were being kept to the last minute and finally were cut because of a better RB or TE or whatever that team X had to keep...thus making some question mark OLs available at the 11th hour. Does that sound about right. I know one of BBs 3 pickups is already gone, Bodine i believe.

One of the posters, I think Hysterical or NY85 - or somebody, said that after cutdown day, only about 33 players were claimed from the various cuts to get on teams rosters. I think that's about 33 players from 1000+ player cuts from September Cutdown day. With Pope, he's on the practice squad, not the 53 - he was Detroit's UDFA. When cut he was signed by the 49ers. Bellicheat signing 3-OL, one poster said that the Pats were trying for another Trent Brown deal, but it didn't pan out. To me that sounds like a reasonably good explanation of why the Pats did that.

From here on out, I agree with the posters that say they shouldn't go after injured or recovering-from-injury players. I think (and I hope) the players they have (Staley, Richburg, McGlinchy - and the two other starting guards) are good enough and stay healthy for this season. ShanaLynch should shift to developing promising *healthy* young players with potential. I'd like to see them go after some young draftees in 2020 and some highly rated UDFAs. I hope the UDFA that they have currently on the roster and IR can develop. Shon Coleman - once he recovers from injury should be developed in the offseason to challenge the starters (for example).

Originally posted by John_Candy:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Matt LeFleur's offense was a lot closer to Shanny's than I thought it would be. So that should tell us something about how it takes a little while for these lines to grasp this offense. When it works, it's beautiful. But, getting through the learning stages is going to be rough, even for some of the best guys out there. That's why I feel like they value continuity over forcing change.

I mentioned the similarities of the offenses early on during the game in the gameday thread. I said something like 'let's kinda see what our offense would look like with a HOF QB'.

A little bit later last night, I talked to my friend who is a GB fan. What he said and what transpired in the game gave me pause. He said they (GB) had two really good T's but their G's were poor, that sounded very familiar. And Rodgers was under pressure a lot last night.

Kyle and perhaps LaFleur can't keep neglecting the G position. G's don't grow on trees, so we might have to use a mid to late 1st round pick on one.

We have a convert! Jump on this bandwagon. It's a new era of football and we're glad to have you.

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by thl408:

Nice! Didn't think he'd make this quick a recovery. This should help.

Vita Vea and Suh are a really tough first matchup, especially considering how few practice reps he's gotten, but I'd still rather have him than Garland there.

If he can have even a decent game right out of the gate against those two, I'd be elated!

I expect a slow start for the OL this year. I also expect to hear that "we were told" if they allow a single hit or sack.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

I understand that they are trying, but I guess I'd like to see them scout and prioritize their investments where they're also targeting healthy guys. I think there's been a bit too much trying to get a good player on the cheap.

What they are "trying" to do is find depth with the 100 or so OL transactions they've made in 3 years.

They have no intention of actually trying to upgrade the starters and that's their big flaw here.

Instead of prioritizing the OL to target better players than Person, Tomlinson and a "true challenger to Richburg, they are merely trying to find the next Verrett for the OL.

As a result, we're here...playing Russian Roulette in Trump's basement with Jimmy Garoppolo and this offense.

It's game time. Let's see if that calculated risk and ingrained Shanahan philosophy pays off. #125QBHits

Originally posted by John_Candy:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Matt LeFleur's offense was a lot closer to Shanny's than I thought it would be. So that should tell us something about how it takes a little while for these lines to grasp this offense. When it works, it's beautiful. But, getting through the learning stages is going to be rough, even for some of the best guys out there. That's why I feel like they value continuity over forcing change.

I mentioned the similarities of the offenses early on during the game in the gameday thread. I said something like 'let's kinda see what our offense would look like with a HOF QB'.

A little bit later last night, I talked to my friend who is a GB fan. What he said and what transpired in the game gave me pause. He said they (GB) had two really good T's but their G's were poor, that sounded very familiar. And Rodgers was under pressure a lot last night.

Kyle and perhaps LaFleur can't keep neglecting the G position. G's don't grow on trees, so we might have to use a mid to late 1st round pick on one.

The difference IMO, is GB has never been a running team and they could not run the other night which gave Chicago's d the opportunity to pin their ears back and get after Rodgers.

Our OL on the other hand is built to run the ball. when you can run the ball affectively, it opens up the play action and takes the pressure off the OL when it comes to pass protection.

GB is basically where we were 2 years ago.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
I understand that they are trying, but I guess I'd like to see them scout and prioritize their investments where they're also targeting healthy guys. I think there's been a bit too much trying to get a good player on the cheap.

What they are "trying" to do is find depth with the 100 or so OL transactions they've made in 3 years.

They have no intention of actually trying to upgrade the starters and that's their big flaw here.

Instead of prioritizing the OL to target better players than Person, Tomlinson and a "true challenger to Richburg, they are merely trying to find the next Verrett for the OL.

As a result, we're here...playing Russian Roulette in Trump's basement with Jimmy Garoppolo and this offense.

It's game time. Let's see if that calculated risk and ingrained Shanahan philosophy pays off. #125QBHits

Bofe uv u kno da maff... THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by NCommand:

We have a convert! Jump on this bandwagon. It's a new era of football and we're glad to have you.

Thanks, but I had Risner in my final mock.

I love being able to run the ball as much as anyone, but pass protection is more important imo, far more important.

Originally posted by John_Candy:

Originally posted by NCommand:

We have a convert! Jump on this bandwagon. It's a new era of football and we're glad to have you.

Thanks, but I had Risner in my final mock.

I love being able to run the ball as much as anyone, but pass protection is more important imo, far more important.

Oh snap. You've been on all along.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NinerGM:
I understand that they are trying, but I guess I'd like to see them scout and prioritize their investments where they're also targeting healthy guys. I think there's been a bit too much trying to get a good player on the cheap.

What they are "trying" to do is find depth with the 100 or so OL transactions they've made in 3 years.

They have no intention of actually trying to upgrade the starters and that's their big flaw here.

Instead of prioritizing the OL to target better players than Person, Tomlinson and a "true challenger to Richburg, they are merely trying to find the next Verrett for the OL.

As a result, we're here...playing Russian Roulette in Trump's basement with Jimmy Garoppolo and this offense.

It's game time. Let's see if that calculated risk and ingrained Shanahan philosophy pays off. #125QBHits

I'm betting the OLine will be fine. Jimmy's back and the running game has three good speed backs out there that can make this offense explosive. If that Tampa DLine pins their ears back, Kyle's going to burn them with the screen pass. If Breida can make that first tackler miss on a wheel route or a flair out, it's a TD baby!

Originally posted by Giedi:

I'm betting the OLine will be fine. Jimmy's back and the running game has three good speed backs out there that can make this offense explosive. If that Tampa DLine pins their ears back, Kyle's going to burn them with the screen pass. If Breida can make that first tackler miss on a wheel route or a flair out, it's a TD baby!

Gotta love the optimism! Let's go!

Does anybody else see good things for this team? I'm feeling extra jacked for this season.

Oops, this was supposed to go here.

Their real swing T.

Come on Richburg!!! Make this line good again please

The key will be to establish the run first then get Jimmy in a rhythm with quick short passes first. I think the scheme makes the runners look really good. Especially since the Bucs weakness last year their run D and I have read that it may have not improved a lot. With their #1 pick reported as having the flu on Saturday, even more so, run and exhaust them. Then pass the ball, no need to force Jimmy to pass so quickly.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by evil:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by KittleSkittle:

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice! Didn't think he'd make this quick a recovery. This should help.

Vita Vea and Suh are a really tough first matchup, especially considering how few practice reps he's gotten, but I'd still rather have him than Garland there.

If he can have even a decent game right out of the gate against those two, I'd be elated!

I expect a slow start for the OL this year. I also expect to hear that "we were told" if they allow a single hit or sack.

what are they supposed to say if the o line comes out like s**t.. as predicted by many people here? i understand there will be a ton of excuses /deflections./ but but.. it takes time.. its jimmys first game back.. they are rusty. they did not attend enough hockey games together