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Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by okdkid:

I guess vacation is over and Lynch just realized he forgot to address the OL again. Oops. j/k.

I guess he now just looked at the depth chart and realized our depth is pretty s**tty.


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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by okdkid:

I guess vacation is over and Lynch just realized he forgot to address the OL again. Oops. j/k.

I guess he now just looked at the depth chart and realized our depth is pretty s**tty.


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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by okdkid:

I guess vacation is over and Lynch just realized he forgot to address the OL again. Oops. j/k.

I guess he now just looked at the depth chart and realized our depth is pretty s**tty.


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bruh lmao
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Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

Mills is younger, too.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

Mills is younger, too.

We'll probably sign Newhouse then.
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Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

Mills is younger, too.

We'll probably sign Newhouse then.

Better not.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

It's interesting...they sign one of these guys (or another) and who goes? Skule or Brunskill? Or a different position player?
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

Mills is younger, too.

On paper Milles is better but I heard he look absolutely terrible this preseason. Not sure how he did in today's visit.
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Originally posted by littleken:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

Mills is younger, too.

On paper Milles is better but I heard he look absolutely terrible this preseason. Not sure how he did in today's visit.

If the word around the league is that he's terrible - they'll probably just pass. Hopefully.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by okdkid:

I guess vacation is over and Lynch just realized he forgot to address the OL again. Oops. j/k.

I guess he now just looked at the depth chart and realized our depth is pretty s**tty.

3 day weekend is over, and they're not out golfing anymore
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by jonnydel:
No. Just no. I'm calling BS on that. You can't sit here and say they haven't prioritized something and they lucked into good players. No.

Everyone pretty much agrees the draft is more art than science. If it wasn't, BW wouldn't have chose Gio over Tom. If it wasn't, UDFA's making teams or busts wouldn't even be a thing. I'm sorry but when you're trading and signing top guys (Jeremy Zuttah was traded for 2 months after he played in the pro bowl, Jonathan Cooper coming off a great season in DAL, Weston Richburg, highest graded center in FA and large contract, Mike McGlinchey first tackle off the board) you can't say it was outright neglect or even mild neglect.

2016 ShanaLynch weren't even here. So, just take that one off.

2016 is for YOY purposes.

TE? They spent a 5th on that position. That is NOT prioritizing it. The dude turned out to be a stud so they no longer have that need position TO prioritize.

It's all in black and white for you...not sure if you're just struggling with the definition of prioritization, neglect or something else? I mean, it clearly shows the Richburg and McGlinchey year was a priority year.

Zuttah and Cooper were standard moneyball picks coming off big injuries and hoping they could stick. And their compensation backed that up. Both cut as quickly as signed. Now, if they were 100% healthy coming off a stellar season and we were bidding for them in FA against other teams, sure, clearly they're making that position a priority...like McKinnon and Juice.

I'm hoping Paraag's frontloading on McKinnon and Juszczyk kick in soon in 2020 because they are probably taking a big chunk of the cap. I think everybody agrees that ShanaLynch overpaid for McKinnon and Juszczyk - and I think for explainable reasons, but in 2020 those things are going to haunt ShanaLynch capwise. I just hope by what you mean *prioritization* doesn't mean overpayment. Dee Ford, McKinnon, Juszczyk, Buckner and Kittle - those players probably will take a big chunk of the cap in 2020 unless restructured/well negotiated. Last thing I want is for ShanaLynch to *prioritize* the OLine and pay an OT - 10 million dollars a year (frontloaded) just to get a backup OT.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by okdkid:

I guess vacation is over and Lynch just realized he forgot to address the OL again. Oops. j/k.

I guess he now just looked at the depth chart and realized our depth is pretty s**tty.


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Hahahahaha
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by okdkid:

Jordan Mills vs. Marshall Newhouse

Honestly, I'd rather have Mills, he's started all 16 games the past three seasons and hasn't bounced around the league as much.

It's interesting...they sign one of these guys (or another) and who goes? Skule or Brunskill? Or a different position player?

Toilolo sounds good to me
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by mojave45:
Well if they aren't getting the skills and practice in College, its harder for them to transition to the Pro level isn't it?

But that doesn't mean there is any less talent. It just emphasizes the importance of having excellent developmental coaches at the NFL level and you need to understand that it's going to take longer to develop them...maybe 2 years or more. We're seeing numerous trades now and G's and C's closing the gap on T $ now. Teams are prioritizing it esp. pass protection (see Trenton Brown) because the NFL game (passing league) is starting to mirror the college game that way (spread offenses).

But talent? It seems just as strong as any other position.

You also have to keep in mind, if you are talking about 2 years or more to develop O-line guys and that's IF all of your guys develop. As we all know, that won't happen. OR a guy will develop, but you can't afford to extend him, so you have to hit the reset button with another guy. Or maybe you have guys in the process of development, but a starter got injured, so someone has to play before they are ready.

100%. This is why I was emphasizing this in year 1 of their rebuild. If they want to keep costs low and young production high, they needed to start emphasizing the OL in the draft immediately. 3 years later, we have nobody and that's disappointing. Kyle's emphasis has been on using stop gap journeymen veterans annually instead. That seems like just kicking the can down the street.

I'm with you 100%. If I'm building a team, particularly a KS coached team, I think it's easier to get buy with average receivers + average backs + top tier OL as opposed to top tier receivers + top tier backs + average O-line (and ours is actually below average). With his ability to scheme guys open, KS isn't as dependent on having elite offensive skill position guys, as say, a Jim Harbaugh would . With that said, they built the team the way they did and we are left hoping that the O-line won't stall the potential of our offense.

I'm actually optimistic however because the speed/quickness of our guys + Jimmy's quick release can keep us ahead of the average to below average teams. It's where we run into a dominant defense/D-line that we will run into problems.

I've never seen Kyle build an O-line, so idk what his preferred method is, but it will all come to light in the 2020 draft because on paper, that is the top need for this team. We will see if they attack it with the same aggressiveness they did in fixing our issues at receiver and D-line (which WAS the biggest need in 2017/2018).
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