49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

2nd string pass rushers are abusing McGlinchy who looks like a turnstile ... but he's a "real cool guy" so the 49ers fell in love with him ...meanwhile in NE ...

Is Trent Brown trade the latest coup for the Patriots?
The best news to come out of Patriots training camp is the emergence of Trent Brown as a very good solution at left tackle.... Brown, the trade using minimal draft capital .... Brown has been "awesome" and looks like a "franchise left tackle." Mike Giardi said he's "dominating" in camp..... and Brown is only 25 years old. Moving down a round and a half in the late third to get this guy could go down as a coup and a half.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/bean-trent-brown-trade-latest-coup-patriots

If Brady stays healthy for a couple years and Brown becomes a great LT, that's a huge win for them. If Jimmy G and McGlinchey live up to their expectations, that's a win.

Let's hope for a win-win. Time will tell.

Yes McGlinchy has been getting roughed up a bunch. But that's in-house. That will happen a lot. Now granted yes it's been happening more then we would like to have seen or hear. But indeed need to wait for the regular season.
I don't think he will fully grasp it until the middle of the season.
He's going to have some serious ups and downs no doubt about it.
I'm surprised though they didn't go get a vet RG to pair up next to him. Especially if they knew they were drafting him.

Originally posted by MK_Ultra:

2nd string pass rushers are abusing McGlinchy who looks like a turnstile ... but he's a "real cool guy" so the 49ers fell in love with him ...meanwhile in NE ...

Is Trent Brown trade the latest coup for the Patriots?
The best news to come out of Patriots training camp is the emergence of Trent Brown as a very good solution at left tackle.... Brown, the trade using minimal draft capital .... Brown has been "awesome" and looks like a "franchise left tackle." Mike Giardi said he's "dominating" in camp..... and Brown is only 25 years old. Moving down a round and a half in the late third to get this guy could go down as a coup and a half.
https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/bean-trent-brown-trade-latest-coup-patriots

But but but....he cant run block.

Originally posted by wailers15:

Yes McGlinchy has been getting roughed up a bunch. But that's in-house. That will happen a lot. Now granted yes it's been happening more then we would like to have seen or hear. But indeed need to wait for the regular season.
I don't think he will fully grasp it until the middle of the season.
He's going to have some serious ups and downs no doubt about it.
I'm surprised though they didn't go get a vet RG to pair up next to him. Especially if they knew they were drafting him.

Johnathan Cooper

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Yes McGlinchy has been getting roughed up a bunch. But that's in-house. That will happen a lot. Now granted yes it's been happening more then we would like to have seen or hear. But indeed need to wait for the regular season.
I don't think he will fully grasp it until the middle of the season.
He's going to have some serious ups and downs no doubt about it.
I'm surprised though they didn't go get a vet RG to pair up next to him. Especially if they knew they were drafting him.

Johnathan Cooper

He means a quality G.

Originally posted by pdizo916:

But but but....he cant run block.

He can't. In this offense thats a problem. For what the Patriots run he is a better fit.


I think the 49ers will have more balance with a guy like McGlinchey who can be absolutely dominant as a run blocker and has the intelligence and work ethic to be a quality pass blocker too.

That's the whole debate in a nutshell. If, we hope, I think, are all attached to McGlitchy . Were as with Brown we knew he was a dominant pass protector. We knew at some point we had our next left tackle. With Mc it's all about development. It's a huge risk for 2 more yards a carry.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

That's the whole debate in a nutshell. If, we hope, I think, are all attached to McGlitchy . Were as with Brown we knew he was a dominant pass protector. We knew at some point we had our next left tackle. With Mc it's all about development. It's a huge risk for 2 more yards a carry.

It's part of the rebuild over to Kyle's vision. Too many folks are thinking this is our year and I don't think it is, or was planned to be. Making these kinds of decisions now, early on, are building towards what Kyle wants and we aren't there yet.

Originally posted by mojave45:
It's part of the rebuild over to Kyle's vision. Too many folks are thinking this is our year and I don't think it is, or was planned to be. Making these kinds of decisions now, early on, are building towards what Kyle wants and we aren't there yet.

I understand the vision but were not talking about a 30 year old tackle. All I am saying it is a risk with not a lot of reward at the end. If Mc there's that word if again, turns into everything that we hope then it will be forgotten or they could have had both.

Originally posted by mojave45:

It's part of the rebuild over to Kyle's vision. Too many folks are thinking this is our year and I don't think it is, or was planned to be. Making these kinds of decisions now, early on, are building towards what Kyle wants and we aren't there yet.

Good post. I think all over the board people are forgetting this was supposed to take 3 years in the best case scenario. O-line is gonna be especially difficult because D-lines are so athletic and strong these days.

Given that there are good reports about most of our other rookies, I can live with McG struggling a bit. RT aint easy.

Originally posted by Izyniner:

That's the whole debate in a nutshell. If, we hope, I think, are all attached to McGlitchy . Were as with Brown we knew he was a dominant pass protector. We knew at some point we had our next left tackle. With Mc it's all about development. It's a huge risk for 2 more yards a carry.

If you keep Brown then you take the risk of paying huge money to a guy who isn't motivated enough to get himself into decent shape in a contract year.

Are you going to trust that guy to be motivated enough to take care of his body, stay in shape, study film...etc..AFTER he gets paid?


You just can't play in this offense at 380 pounds. It isn't happening. Even at 350 Brown was well on the heavy side. He needed to go down to 340, 330 to get quicker, that obviously didn't happen.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by father49er:

Originally posted by wailers15:

Yes McGlinchy has been getting roughed up a bunch. But that's in-house. That will happen a lot. Now granted yes it's been happening more then we would like to have seen or hear. But indeed need to wait for the regular season.
I don't think he will fully grasp it until the middle of the season.
He's going to have some serious ups and downs no doubt about it.
I'm surprised though they didn't go get a vet RG to pair up next to him. Especially if they knew they were drafting him.

Johnathan Cooper

He means a quality G.

Lol exactly thanks NC for clarification. Cooper is far from quality

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Izyniner:
That's the whole debate in a nutshell. If, we hope, I think, are all attached to McGlitchy . Were as with Brown we knew he was a dominant pass protector. We knew at some point we had our next left tackle. With Mc it's all about development. It's a huge risk for 2 more yards a carry.

If you keep Brown then you take the risk of paying huge money to a guy who isn't motivated enough to get himself into decent shape in a contract year.

Are you going to trust that guy to be motivated enough to take care of his body, stay in shape, study film...etc..AFTER he gets paid?

You just can't play in this offense at 380 pounds. It isn't happening. Even at 350 Brown was well on the heavy side. He needed to go down to 340, 330 to get quicker, that obviously didn't happen.

Good point! Brown was better than I thought he'd be but he became A Davis 2.0 (or was he Bubba Paris 3.0?).

Quick OL and quick release by JG will make these guys better. What the team has done is replace underpowered guys who get pushed around with strong players who will at least be able to slow down a rush. If they can jell quickly it will be wonderful but Shanahan knows something about offense and I expect them to run a very quick hitting, short pass, strong run game to protect JG. In several of the videos of Minnesota's pass rush a back slipping out of the backfield would have punished them if the QB made better decisions...or had a receiver who read the defense. JG has a pretty good group of receivers and backs and someone will be open early.

The downside is that they have no idea just how long it will take for these guys to meld into an effective OL. McG may not even start until later in the year if one of the backups is a safer choice. If Richburg holds up better in the middle, and the starting OGs are stronger than last year...it may become a very nice OL.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
If you keep Brown then you take the risk of paying huge money to a guy who isn't motivated enough to get himself into decent shape in a contract year.

Are you going to trust that guy to be motivated enough to take care of his body, stay in shape, study film...etc..AFTER he gets paid?

You just can't play in this offense at 380 pounds. It isn't happening. Even at 350 Brown was well on the heavy side. He needed to go down to 340, 330 to get quicker, that obviously didn't happen.

Heck, you can't even expect to live long at that size. Dude might keel over of a heart attack before his next contract is over. I actually don't see the Pats entering that deal next year either, if it is max LT money. Perhaps if he is middle of the road good and they can resign him cheaper. Some team will pay him, but Belichek is too smart.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by Izyniner:
That's the whole debate in a nutshell. If, we hope, I think, are all attached to McGlitchy . Were as with Brown we knew he was a dominant pass protector. We knew at some point we had our next left tackle. With Mc it's all about development. It's a huge risk for 2 more yards a carry.

If you keep Brown then you take the risk of paying huge money to a guy who isn't motivated enough to get himself into decent shape in a contract year.

Are you going to trust that guy to be motivated enough to take care of his body, stay in shape, study film...etc..AFTER he gets paid?

You just can't play in this offense at 380 pounds. It isn't happening. Even at 350 Brown was well on the heavy side. He needed to go down to 340, 330 to get quicker, that obviously didn't happen.

Bingo!

You nailed it.

I was a big Brown fan because of his excellent pass protection.

But based on how he just didn't have the passion to lose the extra pound I don't think he was a long-term solution.