49ers Offensive Line

I think you guys are overlooking how much Kyle likes Laken. He was raving about Laken's development at the owner's meetings, and today John Lynch talked about working towards a long-term deal with Laken. That LG spot is his to lose.

http://www.knbr.com/2018/05/01/john-lynch-explains-how-49ers-became-interested-in-mike-mcglinchey/

Gonna be epic battles at the G position in camp. Camp reporters sharpen your pad stylus

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:

Going into the 2018 draft, the Niners had three proven WRs but no proven guards.

Agreed.

The fact that those unproven guards consist of 3 first round picks goes to show what a crapshoot drafting guards is early in the draft. Magnusun probably going to beat out 2 of them and start as an UDFA.

Originally posted by Heroism:

I think you guys are overlooking how much Kyle likes Laken. He was raving about Laken's development at the owner's meetings, and today John Lynch talked about working towards a long-term deal with Laken. That LG spot is his to lose.

http://www.knbr.com/2018/05/01/john-lynch-explains-how-49ers-became-interested-in-mike-mcglinchey/

I don't see anything from that link talking about how the team feels about Tomlinson. Or is it in audio (at work, can't listen atm)

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm totally good w/our Oline situation.

1) Jimmy. Great timing, super fast release. He moves well and keeps his eyes downfield when the pocket breaks down. There's a reason our oline looked way better w/him under center.

2) Weston. Huge upgrade at a critical position. His movement skills, and his ability to reach block and get to the second level are going to be huge. He will make our guards better.

3) Three first-rounders at guard. The talent is definitely there assuming they can put it all together over a full offseason. Garnett reshaped his body if not his game. Shanahan seems high on Tomlinson. Magnuson and Beadles are serviceable depth. Cooper hasn't lived up to his draft position, but won the starting job last year on a decent Dallas squad.

4) Tackle is on lock barring injuries. At 33, Joe was solid as ever last year—one of my all-time favorite niners. IDK of he's got the movement skills to be an elite LT, but McGlinchy is going to be a right-side rock for the next decade. Super impressed with this kid. My only concern is depth outside. Williams and Gilliam are below average. McGlich and Staley are the kind of dudes who play hurt, however, so fingers crossed.

5) Shanahan. Even if you aren't sold on his potential as a HC or talent evaluator yet, you can't debate this point: the dude knows how to scheme. Genius coordinators aren't always genius head coaches, but I for one trust Kyle to put his guys in the position to be successful. Man—it sure has been a long time since I've been able to say that about a niner HC.

Wow, Heroism...thanks for that! What made you tear up more, hearing the FO is working on an extension for Tomlinson or exercising Armstead's 5th year option? LOL.

Given our pre-draft player connections, G and C were way way down the line of needs and that proved to be true in the end. The FO was much higher on Tomlinson, Cooper, Garnett and Magnuson than the fans.

So for context, could we have gotten better?

Centers:
Martinas Rankin - Rnd 3, Pick 16
Mason Cole - Rnd 3, Pick 33
Scott Quessenberry - Rnd 5, Pick 18
Dejon Allen - Rnd 6, Pick 41
Bradley Bozeman - Rnd 7, Pick 27
Will Clapp - Rnd 4, Pick 11
Sam Jones - Rnd 6, Pick 9
Brian Allen - UFDA - Still available
Sean Welsh - UDFA - WAS
Coleman Shelton - UDFA - SF

Guards:
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Connor Williams - Rnd 2, Pick 18
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Austin Corbett - Rnd 2, Pick 1
Tyrell Crosby - Rnd 5, Pick 16
Braden Smith - Rnd 2, Pick 5
Wyatt Teller - Rnd 5, Pick 29
Jamil Demby - Rnd 6, Pick 18
Alex Cappa - Rnd 3, Pick 30
Colby Gossett - Rnd 6, Pick 39
Toby Weathersby - UDFA - PHI
Skyler Phillips - UDFA - SEA
Tony Adams - UDFA - JAX

Tackles:
Joseph Noteboom - Rnd 3, Pick 25
Orlando Brown - Rnd 3, Pick 19
Will Richardson - Rnd 4, Pick 29
Brian O'neill - Rnd 2, Pick 30
Jamarco Jones - Rnd 5, Pick 31
Geron Christian - Rnd 3, Pick 10
Chuks Okorafor - Rnd 3, Pick 28
Matt Pryor - Rnd 6, Pick 32
Brandon Parker - Rnd 3, Pick 1
Korey Cunningham - Rnd 7, Pick 36
Greg Senat - Rnd 6, Pick 38
Jordan Mailata - Rnd 7, Pick 15
Rick Leonard - Rnd 4, Pick 27
Brett Toth - UDFA - Still available
Zach Crabtree - UDFA - LAC
Elijah Nkansah - UDFA - TEN
Desmond Harrison - UDFA - CLE
Jaryd Jones-Smith - UDFA - HOU

Originally posted by NCommand:

Wow, Heroism...thanks for that! What made you tear up more, hearing the FO is working on an extension for Tomlinson or exercising Armstead's 5th year option? LOL.

Given our pre-draft player connections, G and C were way way down the line of needs and that proved to be true in the end. The FO was much higher on Tomlinson, Cooper, Garnett and Magnuson than the fans.

So for context, could we have gotten better?

Centers:
Martinas Rankin - Rnd 3, Pick 16
Mason Cole - Rnd 3, Pick 33
Scott Quessenberry - Rnd 5, Pick 18
Dejon Allen - Rnd 6, Pick 41
Bradley Bozeman - Rnd 7, Pick 27
Will Clapp - Rnd 4, Pick 11
Sam Jones - Rnd 6, Pick 9
Brian Allen - UFDA
Sean Welsh - UDFA
Coleman Shelton - UDFA - SF

Guards:
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Connor Williams - Rnd 2, Pick 18
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Austin Corbett - Rnd 2, Pick 1
Tyrell Crosby - Rnd 5, Pick 16
Braden Smith - Rnd 2, Pick 5
Wyatt Teller - Rnd 5, Pick 29
Jamil Demby - Rnd 6, Pick 18
Alex Cappa - Rnd 3, Pick 30
Colby Gossett - Rnd 6, Pick 39
Toby Weathersby - UDFA
Skyler Phillips - UDFA
Tony Adams - UDFA

Tackles:
Joseph Noteboom - Rnd 3, Pick 25
Orlando Brown - Rnd 3, Pick 19
Will Richardson - Rnd 4, Pick 29
Brian O'neill - Rnd 2, Pick 30
Jamarco Jones - Rnd 5, Pick 31
Geron Christian - Rnd 3, Pick 10
Chuks Okorafor - Rnd 3, Pick 28
Matt Pryor - Rnd 6, Pick 32
Brandon Parker - Rnd 3, Pick 1
Korey Cunningham - Rnd 7, Pick 36
Greg Senat - Rnd 6, Pick 38
Jordan Mailata - Rnd 7, Pick 15
Rick Leonard - Rnd 4, Pick 27
Brett Toth - UDFA
Zach Crabtree - UDFA
Elijah Nkansah - UDFA
Desmond Harrison - UDFA
Jaryd Jones-Smith - UDFA

There was a run on interior linemen at the top of the second, so IMO, no—not at where we were drafting, which was also Shanahan's argument against drafting an edge.

In retrospect, I wouldn't have hated moving up for Noteboom in the third over Moore and Street because I don't love our tackle depth, but otherwise, I'm good w/who we have on the line.

Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:
Coleman Shelton at C is an intriguing UDFA...could help as a backup as he seems to be a good scheme fit:

Coleman Shelton, C (Washington)
From NFLDraftScout.com:
Shelton, who earned first-team All-Pac 12 honors as a senior, isn't the biggest or strongest center, but he is among the quickest. His mobility and technique will be appreciated by zone-blocking schemes. Possesses a short, stubby frame well-suited to playing in the interior. Best attribute may be his light feet and balance. Shuffles easily from left to right in pass protection and shows good quickness for the trap block and to get out and pull. Very competitive. Highly respected by teammates and the coaching staff for his work ethic, including time spent in the film room.

Nice UDFA pick up! I think he can easily add some strength. You don't need much strength to operate in Kyle's system, for example on draw and screen plays. Stuff that Kyle likes to run. The bio on Coleman reminds me of Jesse Sapolu.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I don't see anything from that link talking about how the team feels about Tomlinson. Or is it in audio (at work, can't listen atm)

Yes, it's an audio. John Lynch explains why they didn't pick up his fifth-year option and reveals that he's begun discussions with Laken's agents to work towards a long-term deal.

Originally posted by GoldBrick:

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm totally good w/our Oline situation.

1) Jimmy. Great timing, super fast release. He moves well and keeps his eyes downfield when the pocket breaks down. There's a reason our oline looked way better w/him under center.

2) Weston. Huge upgrade at a critical position. His movement skills, and his ability to reach block and get to the second level are going to be huge. He will make our guards better.

3) Three first-rounders at guard. The talent is definitely there assuming they can put it all together over a full offseason. Garnett reshaped his body if not his game. Shanahan seems high on Tomlinson. Magnuson and Beadles are serviceable depth. Cooper hasn't lived up to his draft position, but won the starting job last year on a decent Dallas squad.

4) Tackle is on lock barring injuries. At 33, Joe was solid as ever last year—one of my all-time favorite niners. IDK of he's got the movement skills to be an elite LT, but McGlinchy is going to be a right-side rock for the next decade. Super impressed with this kid. My only concern is depth outside. Williams and Gilliam are below average. McGlich and Staley are the kind of dudes who play hurt, however, so fingers crossed.

5) Shanahan. Even if you aren't sold on his potential as a HC or talent evaluator yet, you can't debate this point: the dude knows how to scheme. Genius coordinators aren't always genius head coaches, but I for one trust Kyle to put his guys in the position to be successful. Man—it sure has been a long time since I've been able to say that about a niner HC.

In my opinion, the guys to watch the most along the OL are:

1. Garnett - can the change in body composition & learning from the sideline help him improve on what was a terrible rookie year in 2016?
2. Magnuson - shows signs of tremendous promise as an inside player. Seems to have starting potential there.
3. Shelton - one of the better UDFA pickups most people aren't talking about. Played every position along the Washington OL, starting 7 games at right tackle and a full season at left tackle before kicking inside as a junior playing games at both left and right guard. Moved to center his senior year and won his 2nd straight Washington Lineman of the Year award. The only major knock on him is "average" strength, which can be built to NFL standards by our training staff. Also, the strength is not as pivotal for the zone scheme as it is for power. I really, *really* like this kid's chances to make the team.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Wow, Heroism...thanks for that! What made you tear up more, hearing the FO is working on an extension for Tomlinson or exercising Armstead's 5th year option? LOL.

Given our pre-draft player connections, G and C were way way down the line of needs and that proved to be true in the end. The FO was much higher on Tomlinson, Cooper, Garnett and Magnuson than the fans.

So for context, could we have gotten better?

Centers:
Martinas Rankin - Rnd 3, Pick 16
Mason Cole - Rnd 3, Pick 33
Scott Quessenberry - Rnd 5, Pick 18
Dejon Allen - Rnd 6, Pick 41
Bradley Bozeman - Rnd 7, Pick 27
Will Clapp - Rnd 4, Pick 11
Sam Jones - Rnd 6, Pick 9
Brian Allen - UFDA
Sean Welsh - UDFA
Coleman Shelton - UDFA - SF

Guards:
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Connor Williams - Rnd 2, Pick 18
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Austin Corbett - Rnd 2, Pick 1
Tyrell Crosby - Rnd 5, Pick 16
Braden Smith - Rnd 2, Pick 5
Wyatt Teller - Rnd 5, Pick 29
Jamil Demby - Rnd 6, Pick 18
Alex Cappa - Rnd 3, Pick 30
Colby Gossett - Rnd 6, Pick 39
Toby Weathersby - UDFA
Skyler Phillips - UDFA
Tony Adams - UDFA

Tackles:
Joseph Noteboom - Rnd 3, Pick 25
Orlando Brown - Rnd 3, Pick 19
Will Richardson - Rnd 4, Pick 29
Brian O'neill - Rnd 2, Pick 30
Jamarco Jones - Rnd 5, Pick 31
Geron Christian - Rnd 3, Pick 10
Chuks Okorafor - Rnd 3, Pick 28
Matt Pryor - Rnd 6, Pick 32
Brandon Parker - Rnd 3, Pick 1
Korey Cunningham - Rnd 7, Pick 36
Greg Senat - Rnd 6, Pick 38
Jordan Mailata - Rnd 7, Pick 15
Rick Leonard - Rnd 4, Pick 27
Brett Toth - UDFA
Zach Crabtree - UDFA
Elijah Nkansah - UDFA
Desmond Harrison - UDFA
Jaryd Jones-Smith - UDFA

Wow, round 2 grades for the guards. Interesting. Other than Quentin Nelson, nobody else got picked in the first round at guard. Frank Ragnow and Billy Price went in the first round at C. At OT, Kolton Miller and Isaiah Winn went in the first. There was talent for sure at the O Line, but we only had one draft pick. I'm sure they could have traded down and have gotten more draft capital, but they zeroed in on Mcglinchey. Trent Brown must have really come back from vacation in terrible shape.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I don't see anything from that link talking about how the team feels about Tomlinson. Or is it in audio (at work, can't listen atm)

Yes, it's an audio. John Lynch explains why they didn't pick up his fifth-year option and reveals that he's begun discussions with Laken's agents to work towards a long-term deal.

Nice! I thought Laken did well last year. Improved as the season wore on.

Originally posted by GoldBrick:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Wow, Heroism...thanks for that! What made you tear up more, hearing the FO is working on an extension for Tomlinson or exercising Armstead's 5th year option? LOL.

Given our pre-draft player connections, G and C were way way down the line of needs and that proved to be true in the end. The FO was much higher on Tomlinson, Cooper, Garnett and Magnuson than the fans.

So for context, could we have gotten better?

Centers:
Martinas Rankin - Rnd 3, Pick 16
Mason Cole - Rnd 3, Pick 33
Scott Quessenberry - Rnd 5, Pick 18
Dejon Allen - Rnd 6, Pick 41
Bradley Bozeman - Rnd 7, Pick 27
Will Clapp - Rnd 4, Pick 11
Sam Jones - Rnd 6, Pick 9
Brian Allen - UFDA
Sean Welsh - UDFA
Coleman Shelton - UDFA - SF

Guards:
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Connor Williams - Rnd 2, Pick 18
Will Hernandez - Rnd 2, Pick 2
Austin Corbett - Rnd 2, Pick 1
Tyrell Crosby - Rnd 5, Pick 16
Braden Smith - Rnd 2, Pick 5
Wyatt Teller - Rnd 5, Pick 29
Jamil Demby - Rnd 6, Pick 18
Alex Cappa - Rnd 3, Pick 30
Colby Gossett - Rnd 6, Pick 39
Toby Weathersby - UDFA
Skyler Phillips - UDFA
Tony Adams - UDFA

Tackles:
Joseph Noteboom - Rnd 3, Pick 25
Orlando Brown - Rnd 3, Pick 19
Will Richardson - Rnd 4, Pick 29
Brian O'neill - Rnd 2, Pick 30
Jamarco Jones - Rnd 5, Pick 31
Geron Christian - Rnd 3, Pick 10
Chuks Okorafor - Rnd 3, Pick 28
Matt Pryor - Rnd 6, Pick 32
Brandon Parker - Rnd 3, Pick 1
Korey Cunningham - Rnd 7, Pick 36
Greg Senat - Rnd 6, Pick 38
Jordan Mailata - Rnd 7, Pick 15
Rick Leonard - Rnd 4, Pick 27
Brett Toth - UDFA
Zach Crabtree - UDFA
Elijah Nkansah - UDFA
Desmond Harrison - UDFA
Jaryd Jones-Smith - UDFA

There was a run on interior linemen at the top of the second, so IMO, no—not at where we were drafting, which was also Shanahan's argument against drafting an edge.

In retrospect, I wouldn't have hated moving up for Noteboom in the third over Moore and Street because I don't love our tackle depth, but otherwise, I'm good w/who we have on the line.

Yeah, late first and early second, there was a great run on the G/C's but it was a very deep group too so the quality that was falling to the 3rd round + was quality and certainly could have added to the talent pool.

3+

Centers:
Martinas Rankin - Rnd 3, Pick 16
Mason Cole - Rnd 3, Pick 33
Will Clapp - Rnd 4, Pick 11
Scott Quessenberry - Rnd 5, Pick 18
Dejon Allen - Rnd 6, Pick 41
Sam Jones - Rnd 6, Pick 9
Bradley Bozeman - Rnd 7, Pick 27
Coleman Shelton - UDFA - SF

Guards:
Alex Cappa - Rnd 3, Pick 30
Tyrell Crosby - Rnd 5, Pick 16
Wyatt Teller - Rnd 5, Pick 29
Jamil Demby - Rnd 6, Pick 18
Colby Gossett - Rnd 6, Pick 39
Skyler Phillips - UDFA (met with)

Tackles:
Brandon Parker - Rnd 3, Pick 1
Geron Christian - Rnd 3, Pick 10
Orlando Brown - Rnd 3, Pick 19
Joseph Noteboom - Rnd 3, Pick 25
Chuks Okorafor - Rnd 3, Pick 28
Rick Leonard - Rnd 4, Pick 27
Will Richardson - Rnd 4, Pick 29
Jamarco Jones - Rnd 5, Pick 31
Matt Pryor - Rnd 6, Pick 32
Greg Senat - Rnd 6, Pick 38
Jordan Mailata - Rnd 7, Pick 15
Korey Cunningham - Rnd 7, Pick 36

Originally posted by Giedi:

Wow, round 2 grades for the guards. Interesting. Other than Quentin Nelson, nobody else got picked in the first round at guard. Frank Ragnow and Billy Price went in the first round at C. At OT, Kolton Miller and Isaiah Winn went in the first. There was talent for sure at the O Line, but we only had one draft pick. I'm sure they could have traded down and have gotten more draft capital, but they zeroed in on Mcglinchey. Trent Brown must have really come back from vacation in terrible shape.

Haha, yeah, probably.

Probably could have waited to get Pettis at 59 with Miller and others still on the board, saved that 74 pick and got a nice C/G or T/G.

But it sounds like the FO is much higher on Tomlinson, Cooper, Garnett and Magnuson than we are.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

In my opinion, the guys to watch the most along the OL are:

1. Garnett - can the change in body composition & learning from the sideline help him improve on what was a terrible rookie year in 2016?
2. Magnuson - shows signs of tremendous promise as an inside player. Seems to have starting potential there.
3. Shelton - one of the better UDFA pickups most people aren't talking about. Played every position along the Washington OL, starting 7 games at right tackle and a full season at left tackle before kicking inside as a junior playing games at both left and right guard. Moved to center his senior year and won his 2nd straight Washington Lineman of the Year award. The only major knock on him is "average" strength, which can be built to NFL standards by our training staff. Also, the strength is not as pivotal for the zone scheme as it is for power. I really, *really* like this kid's chances to make the team.

OTC, I too have eyes on Sheldon. Legit and talented C who could provide some real depth behind Richburg.