Rep the Red & Gold: Shop 49ers Gear →

There are 513 users in the forums

49ers Offensive Line

Shop Find 49ers gear online
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Atrain:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by jcs:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by mitpdub:
From the article on the front page Brendel is a potential cut casualty because he's paid more than he's worth and is ranked 31 out of 40 centers. I guess that's nicer than saying 31st (with only 32teams).

Hes in his 30s too. Although he's been reliable he shouldn't be leading our Oline.

Shanahan really needs to move on from him if he wants his offense to get better. He creates zero running lanes for CMC up the middle which makes us think CMC lost a step. Smfh

CMC has lost a step

Sadly he has. He's a soon to be 30 year old that has been ran into the ground.
CMC still as fast as 2 years ago ,This line was the 7 worst in the NFL in yards before contact. CMC led the league in broken tackles because they never could get him in the open field to see his speed when you always have to break tackles. Kyle and Lynch said during days in training camp that CMC looked as fast as he ever has here in San Francisco.

Check the numbers. You can also look at next gen stats, he never broke 17.3 mph on any of his 300 touches this year...2023 he had touches in the 20 mph zone and could break out long runs consistently vs this past season his long was 20 yards until around week 15, his avg was also pretty bad at around 3.6 ypc until the back end of the season but still he finished under 4 ypc which is considered the avg for starting rbs. He's still a very talented back but he's clearly well into the backend of his career. For comparison Jahmyr Gibbs at 23 and one of the leagues fastest rbs had multiple runs going over 22 mph this past season, he was a 4.36 rb when drafted.

Also maybe cmc had to break a lot of los tackles this year because he can't hit a hole as he used to. He's also no Frank the Tank who could find and fit into tiny cracks in the dline well into his 30s. I wonder if CMC can evolve his game to match his change in speed.

We imo however desperately need more speed to be the most successful in Kyle's zone run game.

Frank Gore was Great and is a Hall of Famer but you talk speed Gore never could break a 4.6 forty when he entered the league.Yet Gore at age 31 his last year with us still broke a 1,000 yards and was probably running in the 4.7 range . So CMC probably still can run in the 4.5 range and be highly productive with better play from the line and some deep threat receivers who can have the defense key on them instead of CMC.
The above videos are auto-populated by an affiliate.
Mckivitz came in at #63 on PFF's top 100 list. He was one of only 4 OT's that had a run blocking grade over 90.0

Our OT's are not the issue. It's our interior Oline. And I am confident Puni will bounce back. He was playing hurt all of last season. It's our center and LG we need to upgrade.
Originally posted by Atrain:
CMC still as fast as 2 years ago ,This line was the 7 worst in the NFL in yards before contact. CMC led the league in broken tackles because they never could get him in the open field to see his speed when you always have to break tackles. Kyle and Lynch said during days in training camp that CMC looked as fast as he ever has here in San Francisco.

This is simply not true. You can see with your own eyes that CMC has lost a step. He can't get to the outside like he used to on the stretch plays and can't hit the holes like he used too.

He is still the best pass catching back in the league but his days as a true #1 back may be over.

Having some threats on the outside that the D has to be aware of will help the run game more than anything. Teams would stack the box with 8 guys and we didn't have any receivers who could beat man coverage. Again.
Originally posted by JTB1974:
Mckivitz came in at #63 on PFF's top 100 list. He was one of only 4 OT's that had a run blocking grade over 90.0

Our OT's are not the issue. It's our interior Oline. And I am confident Puni will bounce back. He was playing hurt all of last season. It's our center and LG we need to upgrade.

i think that is well known

also i would say pass blocking was well above average this year run blocking overall wasnt great
CMC has definitely lost a step. Bigger issue was the o line though. CMC has 2 good years left. They really need to get another back and share the load.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Originally posted by Atrain:
CMC still as fast as 2 years ago ,This line was the 7 worst in the NFL in yards before contact. CMC led the league in broken tackles because they never could get him in the open field to see his speed when you always have to break tackles. Kyle and Lynch said during days in training camp that CMC looked as fast as he ever has here in San Francisco.

This is simply not true. You can see with your own eyes that CMC has lost a step. He can't get to the outside like he used to on the stretch plays and can't hit the holes like he used too.

He is still the best pass catching back in the league but his days as a true #1 back may be over.

Having some threats on the outside that the D has to be aware of will help the run game more than anything. Teams would stack the box with 8 guys and we didn't have any receivers who could beat man coverage. Again.

Totally True open your eyes look at the all 22 he never had the outside. So you just think Kyle and Lynch both lie or don't know what they are looking at when they are at practice every day and see it. Look he might not be as fast as he was his first 3 or 4 years in the league but everyone else loses a step , he's plenty fast if we had the blocking.
[ Edited by Atrain on Feb 17, 2026 at 10:21 PM ]
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

McKivitz is not a problem. Puni I am hoping bounces back after an injury plagued sophomore season. Its LG and C that they absolutely must address and if they fail to do so, it will cost them.
Nick Zakelj. 1 year extension

Theres our starting LG.
[ Edited by Sask49erFan on Feb 18, 2026 at 3:05 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
McKivitz is not a problem. Puni I am hoping bounces back after an injury plagued sophomore season. Its LG and C that they absolutely must address and if they fail to do so, it will cost them.

No worries they just re-signed that stud Nick Zaketl that can play both those positions
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Nick Zakelj. 1 year extension

Theres our starting LG.

Until the rookie is ready
  • GEEK
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 19,367
Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Nick Zakelj. 1 year extension

Theres our starting LG.

Until the rookie is ready

Let's see the terms before we harp on the signing. We do need camp bodies.

Also, it seems like they are trying to make Zakelj as the next McKivitz project. Drafted, started some, relegated to the practice squad, extended to compete for a spot.

I doubt we see the same success, but I get the logic / desire. Either way, it shouldn't change our plans to address the position.
Originally posted by Sask49erFan:
Nick Zakelj. 1 year extension

Theres our starting LG.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

I no longer put any stock in PFF grades. Over the last few years their "grades" have made absolutely no sense. I don't even take their grades with a grain of salt anymore. I completely ignore them.
[ Edited by 9ersLiferInChicago on Feb 19, 2026 at 6:18 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

McKivitz is not a problem. Puni I am hoping bounces back after an injury plagued sophomore season. Its LG and C that they absolutely must address and if they fail to do so, it will cost them.

Here's how I see our O-line situation. Shanny is going to have to seriously upgrade his personnel philosophy for his zone blocking scheme, or adjust to a gap-blocking scheme (doubt he will). Teams are still poaching Shanny's coaching staff and copying his scheme as the top coach to copy and coaching staff to poach. However, teams, namely Seattle and the Rams, have adjusted by attacking Shanny's under-talented O-line with very talented, strong D-lines. Many here, and the local media, have rightfully complained about the lack of O-line investment by Shanny. What Seattle did to our O-line on Jan. 3 and Jan. 13 was an alarming exposé of Shanny's O-line personnel philosophy and the results of his lack of O-line investment. In those 2 games Seattle won in a combined score of 9-54, with us scoring 0 TD's. On Jan.3 we ran for a combined 53 yards. On Jan. 17 (statistically worse) we ran for a combined 108 yards, with Purdy being the top rusher with 37 yards, and CMC with 35 yards on 11 carries. Watching both of those games I watched the interior of our O-line get pushed back ALL GAME, in both the run and pass game. This was a repeated theme all season.

Far be it for me to say what Shanny thinks, but based off how he's staffed the O-line it appears to me that Shanny honestly thinks that scheme outweighs talent when it comes to the trenches. Shanny likes smart, lighter, shiftier O-lineman who can move. The problem with this is that while Shanny has done a good job of staffing the O-line with that – smart, lighter, shiftier O-lineman who can move – outside of Trent Williams the O-line seriously lacks talent, size, and strength, and it's glaring. I know we won 12 games (due mostly to schedule IMHO), but every team we lost to had good, strong, athletic D-lineman, particularly on the interior where we're weakest. Regardless of the scheme, our O-line needs to get bigger, stronger, and more athletic - PERIOD!!

This season, Shanny has absolutely no excuse for not seriously addressing the O-line, none. At my last there are going to be 48 FA OG's (39 UFA), not to mention the coming cap casualties. So there's a LOT of FA choices out there where our O-line interior can be fixed, immediately. With our cap space we have more than enough to do it.

  • Trent? No questions, but high draft capital need to be spent on his air apparent
  • Burford? DON'T resigned. Get stronger cheap, proven vet. Will Hernandez, Chris Paul, Robert Jones, or even Evan Neal comes to mind
  • Brendel has to go, FULL STOP! Go get Tyler Linderbaum. We have the money! Spend the money!
  • Puni was dealing with injury. I think he bounces back this season. But a little competition is warranted
  • McKivitz is just OK, but under contract. Competition is seriously warranted

I don't care how good Shanny's scheme is, 6-4, 299lbs (Brendel), and 6-4, 300lbs (Burford) for the interior of our O-line isn't going to cut it in the NFC West, not with those D-lines.

I think this team is too scheme-fit built centered, so much to the point that it's drowned out talent. This could be no more glaring than at the O-Line and WR position groups. Shanny will need to be more scheme-fit/talent balanced and not so scheme-fit centric.
Open Menu Search Share 49ersWebzone