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Jul 23, 2025 at 5:25 AM
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Kyle probably loses in fantasy football with his oline every year and his punishment is to keep playing them.

Is the o-line a factor in fantasy football?
Jul 23, 2025 at 6:41 AM
Originally posted by Koldo:
"Jake's a hell of a player."

Derp.


yup! new season, same issues lol
Jul 23, 2025 at 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Koldo:
"Jake's a hell of a player."

Derp.


Yeah, I don't feel bad for Kyle if he ends up just being the Dan Marino of coaches..close but no cigar.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Meh, looks slow
Typical o-line pace lol
Jul 23, 2025 at 2:44 PM
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Koldo:
"Jake's a hell of a player."

Derp.


Yeah, I don't feel bad for Kyle if he ends up just being the Dan Marino of coaches..close but no cigar.
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Meh, looks slow
Typical o-line pace lol

The Marino comment is funny and sad. They had legit shots 2021 - 2024. I dont blame them for the past draft. To Foerster's credit, McKivitz has become a solid starter. If he can take another step and we get good play at LG, we could be a top 10 or 15 O-line, if healthy. No faith in Brendel (3 years of regression) but maybe someone can surprise. If not, we are settling for 4 out 5.
Jul 23, 2025 at 6:31 PM
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Kyle probably loses in fantasy football with his oline every year and his punishment is to keep playing them.

Is the o-line a factor in fantasy football?

He plays in a league with his oline, last place punishment.
Jul 24, 2025 at 5:18 AM
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…
Jul 24, 2025 at 6:18 AM
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

I think "solid" describes the line fine. They don't have any major glaring questions because they know the line going in to camp is Williams, Bartch, Brendel, Puni, McKivitz. The fact that 3 of them are middle of the road players with lowish ceilings just keeps the line from going from solid to great. Realistically if those 3 have a version of their best seasons then the 49ers will be good.

The questions about the line are the backups, and who will make the 53 from that glut of questionmarks.
Jul 24, 2025 at 7:55 AM
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.
Jul 24, 2025 at 8:17 AM
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.
Jul 24, 2025 at 8:25 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.
[ Edited by TD49ers on Jul 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM ]
Jul 24, 2025 at 9:09 AM
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

Yah I'm sure Kyle doesn't want a good O line to protect his highly paid QB and open holes for hs running game. They signed one of the best tackles in the NFL in Trent Williams. They've signed some good centers int the past although they were a little past ther rime. They used a first round pick on McGlinchey.

They haven't neglected the line. They just felt other areas were needed more. If they had drafted O line in some of thse cases then we woukd be complaining that they need D line or RBs or some other position. You can't fill all your needs every year. This year the 3 top O linemen were gone before the 49ers picked. After that the O line picks all had question marks. Simmons was picked last in round one and he has a major injury to overcome. The 2nd round didn't have alot of talent. This is the way it is nearly every year.

I like signng experienced O linemen as free agents since ther NFL is a much differmet game thanthecollege game. NFL O linemen have to hold theor blocks longer and be much better at pass blocking than college players. Kyle's system is even harder for rookies. If the Niners were set at every key position then they might be able to focus more on the O line but they've had holes to filll every year at key spots.
Jul 24, 2025 at 9:13 AM
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Judgement Season for Keevoh !!!
Jul 24, 2025 at 9:21 AM
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Judgement Season for Keevoh !!!

I doubt McKivitz is a 9er in 2026.
Jul 24, 2025 at 10:42 AM
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Judgement Season for Keevoh !!!

I doubt McKivitz is a 9er in 2026.

He could get big money elsewhere, but that would be a huge loss. Just a huge gamble to expect to keep replacing guys when Oline guys are scarce as it is. I wonder if they anticipated this. My guess is yes because there are no viable tackles ready to step up now and considering they are very particular about Oline they draft, they dont rely on future drafts.
Jul 24, 2025 at 11:35 AM
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

Nah ... Williams is a star, and Puni is almost there. Any group with a star is probably better than any group without one. Burford is an OT now. Zakelj is the backup OG. And I wouldn't say their ceiling is low, I'd say that their ceiling is middling ... they are functional NFL players. Bartch, Pleasants, Hennessy, and Colby have SOME potential to be better than middling. Nugent, Moss, Johnson, Alcaron, Dillard, Gutierrez are kind of mysteries for various reasons.

Safety there is Brown who has been barely okay to bad, Sigle who is a day 3 rookie, and a couple cheap free agents.
WR is better than safety but not by much.

I think there are clearly more questions at those position groups than OL.
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