49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor....

If this were the case, the FailFive would be subscribing to the tier 1 SME's, huh? Nope.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I would argue that the 49ers O line has faced slightly tougher pass rushes than the eagles. 49ers have faced the 7th, 18th, 14th, 29th, 3rd, 1st, 31st 6th and 28th ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 15th ranked overall. The eagles have faced the 30th, 31st, 19th, 24th, 18th, 5th, 8th, 24th and 3rd ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 18th ranked overall. So the 49ers have faced better pass rushes overall and have given up less sacks with a lower sack%.

So you're pivoting to ranks?

Let me ask you one simple question.

Do you think this OL is good enough to win a Superbowl as it's constructed right now (including a healthy Banks)?

I am not the one who favors rankings heavily over results. I merely used rankings to make a point about 49ers pass pro vs eagles pass pro. Results still reign supreme in my book.

Yes. I do believe we have a good enough team, which includes the O line, to win the SB this season.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor....

If this were the case, the FailFive would be subscribing to the tier 1 SME's, huh? Nope.

you don't even subscribe lol

you don't like results, you're just hanging your hat on an article from Aug.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor, it should not be based on popularity and talent ranks before the season starts.

The reason i brought this up is that Philly is struggling and Dertoit got their ass whooped against a good DL in real results on the field

what, in a game? then you got em putting 41 on LAC
we can beat the brakes off DAL one game and lose to PJ Walker the next, such is the way, of the NFL

LAC? will they even make the playoffs ?

PJ walker had the best DL and it showed. I would like to see Detroit vs Cleve DL

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor....

If this were the case, the FailFive would be subscribing to the tier 1 SME's, huh? Nope.

you don't even subscribe lol

you don't like results, you're just hanging your hat on an article from Aug.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor, it should not be based on popularity and talent ranks before the season starts.

The reason i brought this up is that Philly is struggling and Dertoit got their ass whooped against a good DL in real results on the field

what, in a game? then you got em putting 41 on LAC
we can beat the brakes off DAL one game and lose to PJ Walker the next, such is the way, of the NFL

LAC? will they even make the playoffs ?

PJ walker had the best DL and it showed. I would like to see Detroit vs Cleve DL

All I know is when we face the better d lines ...the offensive line shows it's weaknesses. Kyle schemes a lot of it to a minimum, but yeah...those playoff defenses can be handful.

I want to see Banks back and Feliciano at RG. Maybe Moore at RT? He surprisingly looked way more competent filling in for Trent.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor....

If this were the case, the FailFive would be subscribing to the tier 1 SME's, huh? Nope.

you don't even subscribe lol

you don't like results, you're just hanging your hat on an article from Aug.

I'm hanging on end results when those results were proven annually by SME's who evaluated those OL's in tier 1.

But you stick to those micro stats. That's OK.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor, it should not be based on popularity and talent ranks before the season starts.

The reason i brought this up is that Philly is struggling and Dertoit got their ass whooped against a good DL in real results on the field

what, in a game? then you got em putting 41 on LAC
we can beat the brakes off DAL one game and lose to PJ Walker the next, such is the way, of the NFL

LAC? will they even make the playoffs ?

PJ walker had the best DL and it showed. I would like to see Detroit vs Cleve DL

All I know is when we face the better d lines ...the offensive line shows it's weaknesses. Kyle schemes a lot of it to a minimum, but yeah...those playoff defenses can be handful.

I want to see Banks back and Feliciano at RG. Maybe Moore at RT? He surprisingly looked way more competent filling in for Trent.

Post season is always tough, the lesser OL won the SB last year

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I would argue that the 49ers O line has faced slightly tougher pass rushes than the eagles. 49ers have faced the 7th, 18th, 14th, 29th, 3rd, 1st, 31st 6th and 28th ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 15th ranked overall. The eagles have faced the 30th, 31st, 19th, 24th, 18th, 5th, 8th, 24th and 3rd ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 18th ranked overall. So the 49ers have faced better pass rushes overall and have given up less sacks with a lower sack%.

So you're pivoting to ranks?

Let me ask you one simple question.

Do you think this OL is good enough to win a Superbowl as it's constructed right now (including a healthy Banks)?

I am not the one who favors rankings heavily over results. I merely used rankings to make a point about 49ers pass pro vs eagles pass pro. Results still reign supreme in my book.

Yes. I do believe we have a good enough team, which includes the O line, to win the SB this season.

Cue the canned condescending response 😂

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor, it should not be based on popularity and talent ranks before the season starts.

The reason i brought this up is that Philly is struggling and Dertoit got their ass whooped against a good DL in real results on the field

what, in a game? then you got em putting 41 on LAC
we can beat the brakes off DAL one game and lose to PJ Walker the next, such is the way, of the NFL

LAC? will they even make the playoffs ?

PJ walker had the best DL and it showed. I would like to see Detroit vs Cleve DL

All I know is when we face the better d lines ...the offensive line shows it's weaknesses. Kyle schemes a lot of it to a minimum, but yeah...those playoff defenses can be handful.

I want to see Banks back and Feliciano at RG. Maybe Moore at RT? He surprisingly looked way more competent filling in for Trent.

Post season is always tough, the lesser OL won the SB last year

lesser o line with the best QB in the league (who's line always gets the obvious hold calls never called!) . Unfortunately only the Chiefs have that luxury so every other team has to find a better balance etc.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I would argue that the 49ers O line has faced slightly tougher pass rushes than the eagles. 49ers have faced the 7th, 18th, 14th, 29th, 3rd, 1st, 31st 6th and 28th ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 15th ranked overall. The eagles have faced the 30th, 31st, 19th, 24th, 18th, 5th, 8th, 24th and 3rd ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 18th ranked overall. So the 49ers have faced better pass rushes overall and have given up less sacks with a lower sack%.

So you're pivoting to ranks?

Let me ask you one simple question.

Do you think this OL is good enough to win a Superbowl as it's constructed right now (including a healthy Banks)?

I am not the one who favors rankings heavily over results. I merely used rankings to make a point about 49ers pass pro vs eagles pass pro. Results still reign supreme in my book.

Yes. I do believe we have a good enough team, which includes the O line, to win the SB this season.

Cue the canned condescending response 😂

He brought up the secondary in response to that post. Basically saying that O line and secondary will be what holds us back. PHI's secondary has been one of the worst in the NFL this seasson. They have given up more passing yards, more YPA and only have 4 INT's to our 13.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor, it should not be based on popularity and talent ranks before the season starts.

The reason i brought this up is that Philly is struggling and Dertoit got their ass whooped against a good DL in real results on the field

what, in a game? then you got em putting 41 on LAC
we can beat the brakes off DAL one game and lose to PJ Walker the next, such is the way, of the NFL

LAC? will they even make the playoffs ?

PJ walker had the best DL and it showed. I would like to see Detroit vs Cleve DL

All I know is when we face the better d lines ...the offensive line shows it's weaknesses. Kyle schemes a lot of it to a minimum, but yeah...those playoff defenses can be handful.

I want to see Banks back and Feliciano at RG. Maybe Moore at RT? He surprisingly looked way more competent filling in for Trent.

Post season is always tough, the lesser OL won the SB last year

lesser o line with the best QB in the league (who's line always gets the obvious hold calls never called!) . Unfortunately only the Chiefs have that luxury so every other team has to find a better balance etc.

not sure if you watched the philly game vs Mia.. Philly held a Holding clinic.. not flagged once

Originally posted by Cisco0623:
All I know is when we face the better d lines ...the offensive line shows it's weaknesses. Kyle schemes a lot of it to a minimum, but yeah...those playoff defenses can be handful.

I want to see Banks back and Feliciano at RG. Maybe Moore at RT? He surprisingly looked way more competent filling in for Trent.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I would argue that the 49ers O line has faced slightly tougher pass rushes than the eagles. 49ers have faced the 7th, 18th, 14th, 29th, 3rd, 1st, 31st 6th and 28th ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 15th ranked overall. The eagles have faced the 30th, 31st, 19th, 24th, 18th, 5th, 8th, 24th and 3rd ranked pass rushes. That averages out to 18th ranked overall. So the 49ers have faced better pass rushes overall and have given up less sacks with a lower sack%.

So you're pivoting to ranks?

Let me ask you one simple question.

Do you think this OL is good enough to win a Superbowl as it's constructed right now (including a healthy Banks)?

I am not the one who favors rankings heavily over results. I merely used rankings to make a point about 49ers pass pro vs eagles pass pro. Results still reign supreme in my book.

Yes. I do believe we have a good enough team, which includes the O line, to win the SB this season.

Cue the canned condescending response 😂

He brought up the secondary in response to that post. Basically saying that O line and secondary will be what holds us back. PHI's secondary has been one of the worst in the NFL this seasson. They have given up more passing yards, more YPA and only have 4 INT's to our 13.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Results should be the #1 factor....

If this were the case, the FailFive would be subscribing to the tier 1 SME's, huh? Nope.

you don't even subscribe lol

you don't like results, you're just hanging your hat on an article from Aug.

I'm hanging on end results when those results were proven annually by SME's who evaluated those OL's in tier 1.

But you stick to those micro stats. That's OK.

you just revealed that you have no idea what you are talking about

Hanging your hat on talent eval from August and not actual play.. lol