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  • Giedi
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

No but two Superbowls do.
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

No but two Superbowls do.
Lol, OL didn't win those
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I love Aiyuk, but 49ers in 2024 are already 6 million *over* the salary cap as of today's estimates (this is without Trey's cap hit). Adding an extra 14 million on top of the existing cap, and also not really knowing how much Bosa's contract will hit the cap in 2024, it's a challenge to be optimistic about Brandon. They might trade Brandon to relieve the cap pressure. I don't know. I defer to AB81. If he says we can keep Aiyuk, well he knows the cap better than me and 99.999% of the folks here.

The 14 million is already included in that number. Trey cap hit also doesn't increase.

Agree that the 14 million is included, good point. The problem is 49ers are still over the cap. Add in Bosa's mega deal and you are going to have to make some hard decisions - capwise. Now what they can do is extend and backload some of those deals but the disadvantage is you can't go too much into next years free agency and if injuries happen to any of the core players, 49ers will be in a load of cap hurt.
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

No but two Superbowls do.
Lol, OL didn't win those

Yeah and a one legged Trent Williams didn't help us to win to even get to the Superbowl.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

Feel like we have to keep reminding you it happened in the SB vs Niners as well
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Chance:
If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

I doubt they do that this next year. Won't have reason to. They have no one outside of Jennings of any value to resign and he's a rfa.
Trade BA, combine that with our #1 move up to get the best WR

Any great WRs in next years draft ?

If we didn't waste those damn picks on Lance I would do an ATL like trade when they went up for Julio for Harrison jr but I think he's probably going top 3 and we would pick 32

Knowing ShanaLynch, those picks would be heading to the defensive line.

What I'd like to see happen is some significant draft capital going to the OLine next year. I think a guy like Ronnie Bell can free up some draft capital locked up in such players like Aiyuk, so the 49ers can keep the franchise QB alive for the playoffs. I'd hate to lose Aiyuk, but if its for a good cause like preserving Brock's arm, I'm ok with it.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

He did get injured behind the LOS in the playoffs last season and he did need to scramble to win the SB.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

Feel like we have to keep reminding you it happened in the SB vs Niners as well

Which is why he was down 10 in the 4Q. Then he ran backwards once and threw up an arm punt and only had 1 pressure the rest of the game. See how that works?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

He did get injured behind the LOS in the playoffs last season and he did need to scramble to win the SB.

I don't think making a play or two is "running around."
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

No but two Superbowls do.
Lol, OL didn't win those

No but the Chiefs did.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

Feel like we have to keep reminding you it happened in the SB vs Niners as well

Which is why he was down 10 in the 4Q. Then he ran backwards once and threw up an arm punt and only had 1 pressure the rest of the game. See how that works?

Yeah I see how moving goalposts works. But here are the facts..,
4 sacks
9 QB hits, many of which were tattoo jobs. One of which almost got him knocked out of the game because his PP failed and he was forced to scramble and hit lit up by Ward
Countless pressure that had him on skates the majority of the game.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

No but two Superbowls do.
Lol, OL didn't win those

No but the Chiefs did.
that doesn't make every person on the staff great
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

Feel like we have to keep reminding you it happened in the SB vs Niners as well

Which is why he was down 10 in the 4Q. Then he ran backwards once and threw up an arm punt and only had 1 pressure the rest of the game. See how that works?

Yeah I see how moving goalposts works. But here are the facts..,
4 sacks
9 QB hits, many of which were tattoo jobs. One of which almost got him knocked out of the game because his PP failed and he was forced to scramble and hit lit up by Ward
Countless pressure that had him on skates the majority of the game.

None when it mattered most though.

But we did do a great job up to that point. That's for sure.

In the end our tier 1 DL couldn't close (or the rest of the team for that matter). And theirs did.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.
Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

LOL. The only time he had to "run around" was when he lost 9-31.

Feel like we have to keep reminding you it happened in the SB vs Niners as well

Which is why he was down 10 in the 4Q. Then he ran backwards once and threw up an arm punt and only had 1 pressure the rest of the game. See how that works?

Yeah I see how moving goalposts works. But here are the facts..,
4 sacks
9 QB hits, many of which were tattoo jobs. One of which almost got him knocked out of the game because his PP failed and he was forced to scramble and hit lit up by Ward
Countless pressure that had him on skates the majority of the game.

None when it mattered most though.

But we did do a great job up to that point. That's for sure.

In the end our tier 1 DL couldn't close (or the rest of the team for that matter). And theirs did.

The beginning of the end for us in that SB came on a 3rd & 15 when Bosa was allowed to get chokeheld long enough for Mahomes to find someone deep downfield. After that, the flood gates burst open.
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