49ers Offensive Line

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think you almost have to gameplan Trent missing the playoffs - after all that's when the age catches up to you, in a sense. As you age, you don't have the endurance you used to have, and that 20 game season is just a brutal marathon. They can give him veteran's days off, but it's still a contact sport and by the playoffs, Trent's body's been beat up for 17 weeks.

Moore and Feliciano (or whoever is backup) has to know and be coached to know, he's going in for Trey in the playoffs the way McKivitz did for Trent in the (I think) NFC championship game. If I'm the pro-personnel guys, I'm lining up plans A, B, C. and D - in case Trent can't be available in the latter half of the season. I might even carry 4 tight ends just to help chip block the DE the left tackle is facing in the playoffs. As a head coach, I have to be ready to pull Trent from starting and put in the backup if Trent is severely injured as he was a year or two ago, when he tried to play on one leg in the championship game.

For sure!

Plus, like you noted 17-20 game seasons that run long and turn right around and start again just a couple months later. There just isn't a ton of time to heal up.

Now, Kyle obviously is giving him a ton of time off to combat that but there's downsides to that as well.

My plan C for Trent is getting a good Trent Backup before the trade deadline, otherwise they have to wait for next years draft. This OLine setup, I think, has to be viewed as temporary as by next year the 49ers have a first round pick they can use for a left tackle. Anthony Lynn most likely will be gone, that's another added 3rd round pick compensation. Kyle will have to look for another talented minority coach to be his assistant HC. Aiyuk and Jennings will be gone. We won't win any bidding war with these bottom feeding teams giving Aiyuk and Jennings X10 what he's worth to the 49ers. So there will be cap space and draft captial to restock the left tackle position next year.

Aiyuk will be here through 2024 at the very least.

I think that depends on the Bosa contract. If I'm correct and Bosa gets all the gold in the Brinks truck *AND* the Brinks Truck too - then Brandon's 2024 14+ million cap hit might not be cap sustainable. Specially if Ronnie Bell makes the team and does well enough that they can replace Brandon's production with Bell's. We shall see.

If they let BA walk, I will never buy another jersey ever again. But I have faith they will find a way to make it all work.

Same. I just hope he doesn't want to leave to become the guy in a pass centric offense. That's my only real concern. AB showed we could certainly keep him.

Well if he wants to leave, there is not much we can do about that since I doubt we use the FT on him after his 5th year.

I know. It could get tricky.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Aiyuk will be here through 2024 at the very least.

Originally posted by NCommand:
It sure would suck to lose Aiyuk. That's for sure but in the end, you might be right.

Yeah, "next year" has been the theme here for quite some time. I'll remain cautiously optimistic they have a desire to build a tier 1 OL here.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Aiyuk is signed for next year at the moment. Jennings is a restricted free agent and only goes somewhere if the team allows it to happen. I see both here in 2024.

I love Aiyuk, but 49ers in 2024 are already 6 million *over* the salary cap as of today's estimates (this is without Trey's cap hit). Adding an extra 14 million on top of the existing cap, and also not really knowing how much Bosa's contract will hit the cap in 2024, it's a challenge to be optimistic about Brandon. They might trade Brandon to relieve the cap pressure. I don't know. I defer to AB81. If he says we can keep Aiyuk, well he knows the cap better than me and 99.999% of the folks here.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think that depends on the Bosa contract. If I'm correct and Bosa gets all the gold in the Brinks truck *AND* the Brinks Truck too - then Brandon's 2024 14+ million cap hit might not be cap sustainable. Specially if Ronnie Bell makes the team and does well enough that they can replace Brandon's production with Bell's. We shall see.

He's not gonna have a 14 mil cap hit. They will extend him.

The move that is likely on the horizon is trading Deebo in 2025.

Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:

I think that depends on the Bosa contract. If I'm correct and Bosa gets all the gold in the Brinks truck *AND* the Brinks Truck too - then Brandon's 2024 14+ million cap hit might not be cap sustainable. Specially if Ronnie Bell makes the team and does well enough that they can replace Brandon's production with Bell's. We shall see.

He's not gonna have a 14 mil cap hit. They will extend him.

The move that is likely on the horizon is trading Deebo in 2025.

Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I think we're going to eventually trade Deebo for a haul like the Chiefs did with Hill.

Aiyuk is a better pure receiver. Bell isn't Samuel but he's got that fight in him. If they can find another guy like Deebo they'll definitely look to make a move to sustain the rest of the roster.

Originally posted by Giedi:
I love Aiyuk, but 49ers in 2024 are already 6 million *over* the salary cap as of today's estimates (this is without Trey's cap hit). Adding an extra 14 million on top of the existing cap, and also not really knowing how much Bosa's contract will hit the cap in 2024, it's a challenge to be optimistic about Brandon. They might trade Brandon to relieve the cap pressure. I don't know. I defer to AB81. If he says we can keep Aiyuk, well he knows the cap better than me and 99.999% of the folks here.

The 14 million is already included in that number. Trey cap hit also doesn't increase.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I think we're going to eventually trade Deebo for a haul like the Chiefs did with Hill.

Aiyuk is a better pure receiver. Bell isn't Samuel but he's got that fight in him. If they can find another guy like Deebo they'll definitely look to make a move to sustain the rest of the roster.

I would agree. I would expect that to happen in 25 when there will be more cap questions than in 24.

9ers have some flexible contracts that can be tweaked to clear the needed cap in 24. 25 is the big year as that will actually have some players hit FA they might want to keep.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think that depends on the Bosa contract. If I'm correct and Bosa gets all the gold in the Brinks truck *AND* the Brinks Truck too - then Brandon's 2024 14+ million cap hit might not be cap sustainable. Specially if Ronnie Bell makes the team and does well enough that they can replace Brandon's production with Bell's. We shall see.

He's not gonna have a 14 mil cap hit. They will extend him.

The move that is likely on the horizon is trading Deebo in 2025.

Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I think we're going to eventually trade Deebo for a haul like the Chiefs did with Hill.

Aiyuk is a better pure receiver. Bell isn't Samuel but he's got that fight in him. If they can find another guy like Deebo they'll definitely look to make a move to sustain the rest of the roster.

If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

Originally posted by Chance:
If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

I doubt they do that this next year. Won't have reason to. They have no one outside of Jennings of any value to resign and he's a rfa.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Chance:
If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

I doubt they do that this next year. Won't have reason to. They have no one outside of Jennings of any value to resign and he's a rfa.

Trade BA, combine that with our #1 move up to get the best WR

Any great WRs in next years draft ?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Chance:
If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

I doubt they do that this next year. Won't have reason to. They have no one outside of Jennings of any value to resign and he's a rfa.

Trade BA, combine that with our #1 move up to get the best WR

Any great WRs in next years draft ?

If we didn't waste those damn picks on Lance I would do an ATL like trade when they went up for Julio for Harrison jr but I think he's probably going top 3 and we would pick 32

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Chance:
If we can get a haul for Deebo, and we need to choose between him and Aiyuk at the end of the year, then I agree, we have to keep the better pure WR, especially if Aiyuk proves to be just as valuable. That said, I hope we find a way to keep everyone.

I doubt they do that this next year. Won't have reason to. They have no one outside of Jennings of any value to resign and he's a rfa.

Trade BA, combine that with our #1 move up to get the best WR

Any great WRs in next years draft ?

If we didn't waste those damn picks on Lance I would do an ATL like trade when they went up for Julio for Harrison jr but I think he's probably going top 3 and we would pick 32

well how about the 2nd or 3rd best ?

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I feel like the Chiefs dont get raided enough

Yeah, I also feel that way. If anything ever happens to Foerster, I hope we raid Andy's offensive line coaching staff for some talent. I think his OLined coaches are underrated.

Mahomes running around, getting hurt and making unbelievable throws is all OL scheme?

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I think that depends on the Bosa contract. If I'm correct and Bosa gets all the gold in the Brinks truck *AND* the Brinks Truck too - then Brandon's 2024 14+ million cap hit might not be cap sustainable. Specially if Ronnie Bell makes the team and does well enough that they can replace Brandon's production with Bell's. We shall see.

He's not gonna have a 14 mil cap hit. They will extend him.

The move that is likely on the horizon is trading Deebo in 2025.

Well, sure, that's what AB81 and I were talking about earlier in the year. They can keep everybody, *IF* they backload a lot of the major core player deals. I have a feeling though that Paraag won't go for that and hold his ground. I understand that position too. it endangers the long-term prospects of a healthy cap and a vibrant football squad. If the 49ers continue to hit on the draft - we can lose some of our star players and still win games. All playoff team's star players are going to get raided. Look at the Eagles and the Chiefs, and us. It's a yearly event. Blame it on Eddie D's five Lombardi's.

I think we're going to eventually trade Deebo for a haul like the Chiefs did with Hill.

Aiyuk is a better pure receiver. Bell isn't Samuel but he's got that fight in him. If they can find another guy like Deebo they'll definitely look to make a move to sustain the rest of the roster.

I don't know about Deebo. His massive contract says he's going to be a 49er for a long time. I can see Aiyuk not being here though because of his rookie contract ending.

What I'd like to see if we can't keep Aiyuk, is for Kyle to get something like a Hill trade for Aiyuk and bolster the offensive line. Make NCommand happy with a boatload of 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks going to the OLine!