No seriously I'm worried...
That being said, luckily Brock gets rid of the ball pretty quickly.....and more importantly knows how to protect himself from hard hits.. if he doesn't avoid them.
Hope they can somehow gel early on.
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Aug 25, 2023 at 12:04 AM
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No seriously I'm worried...
That being said, luckily Brock gets rid of the ball pretty quickly.....and more importantly knows how to protect himself from hard hits.. if he doesn't avoid them.
Hope they can somehow gel early on.
Aug 25, 2023 at 5:15 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
I can see where you are coming from. When you watch all the 49ers games from beginning to end but only watch highlights of every other team in the NFL, its easy to build a false narrative about how bad or good your team actually is. This is exactly the reason why comparing efficiency stats with other teams is a better way to judge your own team. It is impossible to watch every snap of every team every week unless you have no job and no life outside of football.
[ Edited by YACBros85 on Aug 25, 2023 at 5:17 AM ]
Aug 25, 2023 at 8:16 AM
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Hey, you're back, YAC! Good. Don't leave again.
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Aug 25, 2023 at 8:21 AM
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 25, 2023 at 8:23 AM ]
Aug 25, 2023 at 8:38 AM
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Is giving up a 35% pressure rate in the SB being great when you need to be?
Tier 1 qbs are the ones that can't be quantified with average based stats.
Tier 1 qbs are the ones that can't be quantified with average based stats.
Aug 25, 2023 at 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
I can see where you are coming from. When you watch all the 49ers games from beginning to end but only watch highlights of every other team in the NFL, its easy to build a false narrative about how bad or good your team actually is. This is exactly the reason why comparing efficiency stats with other teams is a better way to judge your own team. It is impossible to watch every snap of every team every week unless you have no job and no life outside of football.
Exactly right. No different than the b***hing about drafting. They aren't perfect but they are better than most.
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Aug 25, 2023 at 8:40 AM
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Is giving up a 35% pressure rate in the SB being great when you need to be?
Tier 1 qbs are the ones that can't be quantified with average based stats.
For real. The #1 o line gave up 2 sacks in the SB while the #1 pass rush got no sacks.
Aug 25, 2023 at 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
Nice comments guys..Critical thinking is so much better than toxic positivity 👏
I only really watch good teams against a perceived weakness to really know how we are. The Oline last year proves we were great at times and blew at others. This year don't get me started lol. If we want to be great again someday we need to be solid at all position groups, not great at all groups but solid. Not feeling that way this year yet.
Aug 25, 2023 at 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
Nice comments guys..Critical thinking is so much better than toxic positivity 👏
I only really watch good teams against a perceived weakness to really know how we are. The Oline last year proves we were great at times and blew at others. This year don't get me started lol. If we want to be great again someday we need to be solid at all position groups, not great at all groups but solid. Not feeling that way this year yet.
Are you saying that the 49ers o line 30.9% pressure rate looked worse than the eagles o line 31.6% pressure rate? I thought a pressure was a pressure or can one be worse than another?
Aug 25, 2023 at 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
Agree, OLines don't have to be great every down, just ALL third downs.
I think - at least for the OLine - and the Zone blocking, durabililty aguments the OLine talent. Hopefully I'm right and that on 3rd downs and money downs (goal line situations) this developing OLine will be great on those money downs. Next year I want some talent injecten into that OLine - at least a first round level talent as a future replacement for Trent, and for Brock's health. Last thing I want to happen is for Brock to retire prematurely like Andrew Luck.
Aug 25, 2023 at 10:22 AM
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I would be interested in 3rd and medium-long pass pro stats. I wonder what it would reveal as far as sack% and pressure rate around the league.
Aug 25, 2023 at 2:23 PM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
Nice comments guys..Critical thinking is so much better than toxic positivity ????
I only really watch good teams against a perceived weakness to really know how we are. The Oline last year proves we were great at times and blew at others. This year don't get me started lol. If we want to be great again someday we need to be solid at all position groups, not great at all groups but solid. Not feeling that way this year yet.
Are you saying that the 49ers o line 30.9% pressure rate looked worse than the eagles o line 31.6% pressure rate? I thought a pressure was a pressure or can one be worse than another?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by Crown:
with all the hand ringing over QBs the O line is the real worry for me.
Every time we mention it we are thrown stats about how good they were last year. I trust my eyes on game day lol
Especially when it really matters. You can be the consensus #1 OL of all time but you're not going to play that way every minute of every game.
Like Joe Montana from the 86' recap: "Joe Montana isn't always great. But he's always great when he needs to be."
Tier 1 OL's can be the same way because they have the talent to do so. You're not going to quantify that with average-based stats.
Nice comments guys..Critical thinking is so much better than toxic positivity 👏
I only really watch good teams against a perceived weakness to really know how we are. The Oline last year proves we were great at times and blew at others. This year don't get me started lol. If we want to be great again someday we need to be solid at all position groups, not great at all groups but solid. Not feeling that way this year yet.
Are you saying that the 49ers o line 30.9% pressure rate looked worse than the eagles o line 31.6% pressure rate? I thought a pressure was a pressure or can one be worse than another?
Last year it was we were not good in pass pro vs good Dlines. Look to the playoffs and you can see when we faced Dallas and Philly. I know the Purdy injury was a bad call with our back up TE against Haason Reddick. Run blocking we were good.
This year if we get an injury on the line look out which is what I was pointing out.
Aug 25, 2023 at 2:25 PM
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Last year it was we were not good in pass pro vs good Dlines. Look to the playoffs and you can see when we faced Dallas and Philly. I know the Purdy injury was a bad call with our back up TE against Haason Reddick. Run blocking we were good.
This year if we get an injury on the line look out which is what I was pointing out.
Which is pretty much every team in the nfl
Aug 25, 2023 at 2:36 PM
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Originally posted by elguapo:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Last year it was we were not good in pass pro vs good Dlines. Look to the playoffs and you can see when we faced Dallas and Philly. I know the Purdy injury was a bad call with our back up TE against Haason Reddick. Run blocking we were good.
This year if we get an injury on the line look out which is what I was pointing out.
Which is pretty much every team in the nfl
Not agreeing with that but we have a weakness look at last yrs film. We were good with the run game not pass pro, this year not so much so far. We shall see as the season progresses.
Aug 25, 2023 at 3:56 PM
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
I would be interested in 3rd and medium-long pass pro stats. I wonder what it would reveal as far as sack% and pressure rate around the league.
All you need to study is what happens once we get up by 10. LOL