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Originally posted by NCommand:
I was thinking the exact same thing when I woke up today...what's NY got for me this morning. Haha
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I was thinking the exact same thing when I woke up today...what's NY got for me this morning. Haha
I don't have time to sit and wait for whatever weird rebuttal you have next. When I have time to reply I do. I make my point and have been very clear about it….you on the other hand are all over the place and deflect like crazy.
Originally posted by NCommand:
OK, you devalue G's and I said that's not going to work in today's NFL...not with dudes at the level I just mentioned. And that's proven wildly accurate, yet you haven't changed your tune once. So let's do it again and stick to the classic definition of insanity. Now if you want to raise that standard higher to where they're not in that bucket, I could buy that.
Actually, yes he did and once again, I proved that as well recently...again. And again, you ignore. And dismiss and are so dug in you couldn't even see me given him credit for improving and wanting to keep him. SMH...not exactly the stance of someone who thinks he "sucks."
No but having references and resources that tip you off to projects is great. YAC's posted more of that in here than you so we finally had something constructive to review. That's value. Your tirades about 1995 and how QB's and G's are equal is just freaking weird.
Like I said, you don't learn. If you don't know what I'm "complaining" about after 6 years, you'll never get it. You can't seem to separate team building strategy and individual player analysis.
Originally posted by NCommand:
My brother, you may want to go back and read your posts this morning.
I can't make this s**t up….it's ridiculous
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Crazy to think you are proven right that guards are way important than the team thinks they are because we didn't win a SB.
To suggest that proves your right is the epitome of delusions of grandeur.
The primary reasons the 9ers lost the SB and the NFC Title games were qb and secondary. To say it was the o line when they outplayed the opposition o line is patently absurd. To compare their play to the Chiefs in the 2021 SB or the Bengals this year is absurd.
That argument is the definition of cuz I say so
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
OK, you devalue G's and I said that's not going to work in today's NFL...not with dudes at the level I just mentioned. And that's proven wildly accurate, yet you haven't changed your tune once. So let's do it again and stick to the classic definition of insanity. Now if you want to raise that standard higher to where they're not in that bucket, I could buy that.
Actually, yes he did and once again, I proved that as well recently...again. And again, you ignore. And dismiss and are so dug in you couldn't even see me given him credit for improving and wanting to keep him. SMH...not exactly the stance of someone who thinks he "sucks."
No but having references and resources that tip you off to projects is great. YAC's posted more of that in here than you so we finally had something constructive to review. That's value. Your tirades about 1995 and how QB's and G's are equal is just freaking weird.
Like I said, you don't learn. If you don't know what I'm "complaining" about after 6 years, you'll never get it. You can't seem to separate team building strategy and individual player analysis.
Only the whole league has shown you that you're the one that's overvaluing the position. Less money and high end picks are spent on OG comparing to just about every offensive position overall. Nothing you said shows anything different. So stop pretending it has.
no actually he didn't lol. You saying Laken was bad doesn't actually make him bad…sorry NC that's not how it works in life. Yes he improved from being regarded as a 1st rd bust in DET to now leaving SF as a pro-bowler. THAT is development bud.
you posting literally NOTHING in regards to OUR prospects outside of they stink…offers us nothing.
Here goes NC with extremes LOL, like Mike S wasn't coaching in the NFL back in 2013. Like Kubiak wasn't just coaching or Kyle and all the damn HCs that have learned under them aren't CURRENTLY in the league building teams. Yeah look at their OGs and tell me how many are elite.
Only one not learning in this thread is you my man. You're not smarter than everyone and you sure as s**t aren't smarter than Kyle & the league overall.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Crazy to think you are proven right that guards are way important than the team thinks they are because we didn't win a SB.
To suggest that proves you are right is the epitome of delusions of grandeur.
The primary reasons the 9ers lost the SB and the NFC Title games were qb and secondary. To say it was the o line when they outplayed the opposition o line is patently absurd. To compare their play to the Chiefs in the 2021 SB or the Bengals this year is absurd.
That argument is the definition of cuz I say so
Originally posted by NCommand:
Incorrect. Your ideal that you just need bodies and a pulse at G has been proven incorrect. I said you clearly devalued them. Not once did I say they were anymore or less important than any other positron on the OL. If you suck at a position, it's going to cost you eventually. The team has absolutely subscribed to your theory and that has failed miserably. You were perfectly fine with that level of talent at G. Period.
PM your buddy Hoov. He can enlighten you to LT since you don't read in here.
Again, you don't read. Had you, you'd seen I've already broken down Brendel and Banks based on the film posted. Burford too. And I even said these guys are not devoid of talent. LOL
Remarkable.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Oh really? C and RG didn't play into those losses?
Talk about delusion of your own.
Also, your interpretation of my stance of G is way off too.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Incorrect. Your ideal that you just need bodies and a pulse at G has been proven incorrect. I said you clearly devalued them. Not once did I say they were anymore or less important than any other positron on the OL. If you suck at a position, it's going to cost you eventually. The team has absolutely subscribed to your theory and that has failed miserably. You were perfectly fine with that level of talent at G. Period.
PM your buddy Hoov. He can enlighten you to LT since you don't read in here.
Again, you don't read. Had you, you'd seen I've already broken down Brendel and Banks based on the film posted. Burford too. And I even said these guys are not devoid of talent. LOL
Remarkable.
Never said it needs to be "just bodies" show me where I said that? Exaggerating again to try and prove something cut the s**t out!
I said you DO NOT need to pay elite money, spend a bunch of 1st rd picks or need elite OG play to have a good team. You need guys that are scheme fits and dudes that are coachable. I'm not saying toss some XFL guys in there…money/higher picks SHOW ALWAYS go towards OT/C positions. You clearly disagree and guess what the league disagrees with you!
you can't be elite everywhere. What's the f**king point of having anything outside of a 1st rd pick if YOU don't think a prospect can be developed at a position?
This is where you're wrong they haven't failed miserably…they've made it to a NFCC and SB two of the last 3 years. That is not failure in a league of 32 teams where only ONE team can win it all. You calming failure is a joke.
im perfectly fine with them drafting a bunch of scheme fit OL, letting them compete, and develop. The same as every other team does.
Sorry I'm not readying every dumb thing you write to every person in this thread. It's already a massive waste of time dealing with just the crap you write to me.
you haven't broken down s**t lol.
Sorry I'm not readying...
you haven't broken down s**t lol.
Case. In. Point.
Originally posted by NYniner85:The OL gave jimmy enough time to make his normal throws
Originally posted by NCommand:
Haha. Oh really? C and RG didn't play into those losses?
Talk about delusion of your own.
Also, your interpretation of my stance of G is way off too.
They win a SB if Mahomes doesn't pull a 3rd 15 out of his ass, Jimmy actually makes a proper read, or make a downfield throw for once in his life.
they win the NFCC is Jimmy doesn't forget how to play football or Tartt catches a INT….but yeah it was all C/OG for the loses…nothing else played a part those games. FFS at least be objective. Yes we could have had better OL play, you can say that for every damn team on any week. That's not just a SF issue that's a league issue overall.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Before I say something really mean, I'm gonna just leave this thread. I've made my point and have been clear.
Good day.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
The OL gave jimmy enough time to make his normal throws
The OL didn't give jimmy time to hold on to the ball
if this wasn't a NFCCG playing against top talent.. then yeah i would be upset... but it took everything from the Rams to beat a injured riddled 49ers
