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Originally posted by NCommand:
I knew Brunskill stunk but Got Damn! Even by PFF's standards: ...from the Home page article

"Daniel Brunskill (48.2 PFF pass-blocking grade in 2021) returns as the favorite to start at right guard in 2022."

As a OG yes. As a tackle, now. :)
Originally posted by cciowa:
prepare for,,, but but but,, you can not have all pros at every spot... no one is saying that.. we are just saying.. shirley there had to be someone in the draft early or in the early days of free agency we could have taken. instead of hoping and wishing and hoping that dreams come true

Or kick out brun at RT and let jaylon moore compete at RG. Or try a different line up.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I knew Brunskill stunk but Got Damn! Even by PFF's standards: ...from the Home page article

"Daniel Brunskill (48.2 PFF pass-blocking grade in 2021) returns as the favorite to start at right guard in 2022."

As a OG yes. As a tackle, now. :)

Too bad he'll most likely be expected to play G/C this season. Unless MM Is still dealing with something, that's the only way I see Brunskill taking snaps at RT.
Originally posted by Sickaa:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by NCommand:
I knew Brunskill stunk but Got Damn! Even by PFF's standards: ...from the Home page article

"Daniel Brunskill (48.2 PFF pass-blocking grade in 2021) returns as the favorite to start at right guard in 2022."

As a OG yes. As a tackle, now. :)

Too bad he'll most likely be expected to play G/C this season. Unless MM Is still dealing with something, that's the only way I see Brunskill taking snaps at RT.

Agree - although we don't have lots to go on but IMO Bruns is better than MM
Originally posted by NYniner85:

Gotta get in that top 5 if we want to win a Superbowl, it looks.
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What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?
Originally posted by thl408:
What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?

Yeah, that seems pretty arbitrary. Some OL's are asked to hold longer because of the volume and types of routes they run and others, far less on the other extreme. Then there are the mobile QB equations. Is this some kind of league average? Per down and distance average?
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?

Yeah, that seems pretty arbitrary. Some OL's are asked to hold longer because of the volume and types of routes they run and others, far less on the other extreme. Then there are the mobile QB equations. Is this some kind of league average? Per down and distance average?


"How often a QB should have faced pressure based on their time to throw. The longer you hold the ball, the more likely you are to see pressure"

example is Wilson last yr...had his best OL of his career and yet had the highest sack rate of his career. Because he "trusted" his OL to hold up he also held the ball trying to let a play develop. His sacks on those plays were his choose to let those plays develop.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jul 1, 2022 at 12:53 PM ]
I'm not even gonna pretend i understand that chart

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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?

Yeah, that seems pretty arbitrary. Some OL's are asked to hold longer because of the volume and types of routes they run and others, far less on the other extreme. Then there are the mobile QB equations. Is this some kind of league average? Per down and distance average?

Agree, the Roman offense vs the Tom Brady offense - two totally different schemes and *probably* two totally different Time to Throw stats. Apples and oranges.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?

Yeah, that seems pretty arbitrary. Some OL's are asked to hold longer because of the volume and types of routes they run and others, far less on the other extreme. Then there are the mobile QB equations. Is this some kind of league average? Per down and distance average?

Agree, the Roman offense vs the Tom Brady offense - two totally different schemes and *probably* two totally different Time to Throw stats. Apples and oranges.

100%
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
What does "expected pressure rate" mean? How long until the QB is expected to get pressured? Who makes that determination?

Yeah, that seems pretty arbitrary. Some OL's are asked to hold longer because of the volume and types of routes they run and others, far less on the other extreme. Then there are the mobile QB equations. Is this some kind of league average? Per down and distance average?


"How often a QB should have faced pressure based on their time to throw. The longer you hold the ball, the more likely you are to see pressure"

example is Wilson last yr...had his best OL of his career and yet had the highest sack rate of his career. Because he "trusted" his OL to hold up he also held the ball trying to let a play develop. His sacks on those plays were his choose to let those plays develop.

Yeah, we could put this in Defensive Line thread too:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, the Roman offense vs the Tom Brady offense - two totally different schemes and *probably* two totally different Time to Throw stats. Apples and oranges.

time to throw is a lot on what the QB does...no team is making all their receivers run check down routes and no team is making all their receivers run go-routes. Tom Brady had the 2nd fastest TTT at 2.5 and some of the highest air yard stats the past two years. FWIW Jackson (in Roman's offense) had the 5th highest time to throw number.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on Jul 1, 2022 at 1:03 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Yeah, we could put this in Defensive Line thread too:


Never said it doesn't matter. I was pointing out that SF was the 12th best PP OL last yr according to his metrics
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