49ers Offensive Line

Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

Originally posted by random49er:
Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

It's actually been more about being busy in life and I was out of town for over a week. But, ok. Maybe I'm reading that wrong after all our back and forths in the Jimmy thread, but it feels like you're acting like I've been butthurt since the Seattle game. I hate Seattle, yes. But, my life revolves around more than Jimmy G and the niners.

The point was, our O-line is horrible, I mentioned the Jimmy injury because the blocking on that play was horrible.

In case you want to see it. You really gonna blame the QB when the RG turns a DT loose and the RT let's a slot blitz come free too? We saw this same thing vs the pack and a sh-- ton of times vs the Saints off the same side.



But, yeah, Jimmy is hurt cause of jimmy.

Just ignore him JD

Didn't say anything about Seattle.

Just saying when it's years into a QBs contract, and as someone said he's approaching having missed half the games at this point, you can't just turn a blind eye to it.

There isin't going to be a magic wand that suddenly makes the OLine block for 4 seconds a snap in 2021. So what do you do? If him being successful is that strongly tied to us having great pass blockers,...then that's all the more reason to look into someone else possibly being able to take his place sooner rather than later.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
I'm really confused as to why the O-line thread is about QB prospects.......

In other news, I've watched the film from SEA, GB and NO and our O-line is horrible. Against Seattle, they turned DT's loose 3 times in 3 drives - one of which caused Jimmy's new injury.
Another play, Bobby F'n Wagner bowled over 3 guys. 3 GUYS! He took out the entire right side of the line and they had a free rusher at Jimmy.

I've seen way too many free rushers coming at our quarterbacks this season. Things are seriously wrong in that O-line room.

Sorry I get off track, but its hard to have a pocket qb when he has no time . They are synonymous imo. I'm technically defending Garopollo, because nobody would play well behind this line.

Originally posted by random49er:
Didn't say anything about Seattle.

Just saying when it's years into a QBs contract, and as someone said he's approaching having missed half the games at this point, you can't just turn a blind eye to it.

There isin't going to be a magic wand that suddenly makes the OLine block for 4 seconds a snap in 2021. So what do you do? If him being successful is that strongly tied to us having great pass blockers,...then that's all the more reason to look into someone else possibly being able to take his place sooner rather than later.

who said 4 seconds? LOL. Watch the GIF, the DT is turned loose at less than 2 seconds. You really think any QB is going to operate well in that situation? If you do, that's out there.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

I'm really confused as to why the O-line thread is about QB prospects.......

In other news, I've watched the film from SEA, GB and NO and our O-line is horrible. Against Seattle, they turned DT's loose 3 times in 3 drives - one of which caused Jimmy's new injury.
Another play, Bobby F'n Wagner bowled over 3 guys. 3 GUYS! He took out the entire right side of the line and they had a free rusher at Jimmy.

I've seen way too many free rushers coming at our quarterbacks this season. Things are seriously wrong in that O-line room.

My man.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

It's actually been more about being busy in life and I was out of town for over a week. But, ok. Maybe I'm reading that wrong after all our back and forths in the Jimmy thread, but it feels like you're acting like I've been butthurt since the Seattle game. I hate Seattle, yes. But, my life revolves around more than Jimmy G and the niners.

The point was, our O-line is horrible, I mentioned the Jimmy injury because the blocking on that play was horrible.

In case you want to see it. You really gonna blame the QB when the RG turns a DT loose and the RT let's a slot blitz come free too? We saw this same thing vs the pack and a sh-- ton of times vs the Saints off the same side.



But, yeah, Jimmy is hurt cause of jimmy.

Qbs tend to take alot more punishment over the course of a 16 game season and they actually manage to stay healthy.

Josh Allen actually got sacked 7 times against the Seahawks afew weeks back and hit a number of times throughout the game and yet he was still able to make plays for the bills. And not only that, but he managed to stay healthy too. I believe we use too many excuse for Jimbo here on the webzone.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

It's actually been more about being busy in life and I was out of town for over a week. But, ok. Maybe I'm reading that wrong after all our back and forths in the Jimmy thread, but it feels like you're acting like I've been butthurt since the Seattle game. I hate Seattle, yes. But, my life revolves around more than Jimmy G and the niners.

The point was, our O-line is horrible, I mentioned the Jimmy injury because the blocking on that play was horrible.

In case you want to see it. You really gonna blame the QB when the RG turns a DT loose and the RT let's a slot blitz come free too? We saw this same thing vs the pack and a sh-- ton of times vs the Saints off the same side.



But, yeah, Jimmy is hurt cause of jimmy.

Qbs tend to take alot more punishment over the course of a 16 game season and they actually manage to stay healthy.

Josh Allen actually got sacked 7 times against the Seahawks afew weeks back and hit a number of times throughout the game and yet he was still able to make plays for the bills. And not only that, but he managed to stay healthy too. I believe we use too many excuse for Jimbo here on the webzone.

Agreed. Sometimes guys are just more prone to being injured than others.

Sam Bradford for example. Probably struggles to wink without straining an eyelid.

There's zero doubt we need to improve our OLine, but QB's are going to take hits and some just a aren't built for it.

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

It's actually been more about being busy in life and I was out of town for over a week. But, ok. Maybe I'm reading that wrong after all our back and forths in the Jimmy thread, but it feels like you're acting like I've been butthurt since the Seattle game. I hate Seattle, yes. But, my life revolves around more than Jimmy G and the niners.

The point was, our O-line is horrible, I mentioned the Jimmy injury because the blocking on that play was horrible.

In case you want to see it. You really gonna blame the QB when the RG turns a DT loose and the RT let's a slot blitz come free too? We saw this same thing vs the pack and a sh-- ton of times vs the Saints off the same side.



But, yeah, Jimmy is hurt cause of jimmy.

Qbs tend to take alot more punishment over the course of a 16 game season and they actually manage to stay healthy.

Josh Allen actually got sacked 7 times against the Seahawks afew weeks back and hit a number of times throughout the game and yet he was still able to make plays for the bills. And not only that, but he managed to stay healthy too. I believe we use too many excuse for Jimbo here on the webzone.

Agreed. Sometimes guys are just more prone to being injured than others.

Sam Bradford for example. Probably struggles to wink without straining an eyelid.

There's zero doubt we need to improve our OLine, but QB's are going to take hits and some just a aren't built for it.

Improving the O-Line would help In more ways than one. The Niners front office definitely have alot to think about between now and the off-season.

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by JaggedJ:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by random49er:

Jimmy being mostly-stagnant and injury prone causes Jimmy's injuries as well.

btw,...I know it's been hard on you, so welcome back.

It's actually been more about being busy in life and I was out of town for over a week. But, ok. Maybe I'm reading that wrong after all our back and forths in the Jimmy thread, but it feels like you're acting like I've been butthurt since the Seattle game. I hate Seattle, yes. But, my life revolves around more than Jimmy G and the niners.

The point was, our O-line is horrible, I mentioned the Jimmy injury because the blocking on that play was horrible.

In case you want to see it. You really gonna blame the QB when the RG turns a DT loose and the RT let's a slot blitz come free too? We saw this same thing vs the pack and a sh-- ton of times vs the Saints off the same side.



But, yeah, Jimmy is hurt cause of jimmy.

Qbs tend to take alot more punishment over the course of a 16 game season and they actually manage to stay healthy.

Josh Allen actually got sacked 7 times against the Seahawks afew weeks back and hit a number of times throughout the game and yet he was still able to make plays for the bills. And not only that, but he managed to stay healthy too. I believe we use too many excuse for Jimbo here on the webzone.

Agreed. Sometimes guys are just more prone to being injured than others.

Sam Bradford for example. Probably struggles to wink without straining an eyelid.

There's zero doubt we need to improve our OLine, but QB's are going to take hits and some just a aren't built for it.

Improving the O-Line would help In more ways than one. The Niners front office definitely have alot to think about between now and the off-season.

A lot of teams will be in the same boat.

The only thing that could shock me about this upcoming off season is if there aren't several trades/cuts/moves that shock me.

Teams will have to get creative and make hard decisions before they planned to - us included.

It's scary, but there may also be opportunity. Going to be interesting.

Originally posted by Sickaa:
Improving the O-Line would help In more ways than one. The Niners front office definitely have alot to think about between now and the off-season.

The problem is our resources are limited. 49ers barely have enough cap space to resign Trent Williams. The best-case scenario is they resign Trent Williams, pray that Weston Richburg gets healthy before next season, and Mike McGlinchey gets bigger/stronger/better in the offseason.

Originally posted by 9erred:
Trent Williams- Love the guy but with the Baktiari signing no way they re sign him.

Trent Williams has played like horse manure. Line hasn't been the same since Staley retired.

Offensive lineman are not "sexy" picks. But I sure hope Shanahan and Lynch dedicate three out of the top four picks in next year's draft to tackle, center and guard, in that order.

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by Sickaa:

Improving the O-Line would help In more ways than one. The Niners front office definitely have alot to think about between now and the off-season.

The problem is our resources are limited. 49ers barely have enough cap space to resign Trent Williams. The best-case scenario is they resign Trent Williams, pray that Weston Richburg gets healthy before next season, and Mike McGlinchey gets bigger/stronger/better in the offseason.

Sadly this is correct. They now, just don't have the resources to beef up the OL. Yes, a first round pick doesn't necessarily need to be designated for OL (if even a great one is there) and later round OL can become excellent players too but if we're talking a DL-like focus overhaul here, that's just not going to happen and it certainly won't happen under this regime.

It'll be very challenging just to resign Trent Williams if we're being honest.

We're going to need a QB with some insanely good pocket awareness skills and far more mobility.

Players like Garoppolo, Mullens and BeatHard (pocket passers) will continue to get hammered here.

The thing that's extra concerning is this team can't win with its formula unless they can run block very well. And right now, they can't run block either. It NEEDS a DL-like overhaul but it's too late now.

Originally posted by NinerGM:

Because as the record shows, in a draft with Mahomes Kyle said:

But as Peter King of the MMQB reported, Beathard was not a stretch at all for new 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan. In fact, Beathard was the only quarterback in the draft that Shanahan wanted.

"He processes the game so well," Shanahan told King. "Tough as s---. Got a chance. He reminds me a lot of Kirk Cousins."

King was embedded in the 49ers draft room from Thursday to Saturday, and he wrote an outstanding behind-the-scenes look at John Lynch's first draft as general manager.

Sorry NY, but if we praise KS for acquiring JG and moving forward with him, then we have to knock him as a HC evaluating all QBs, particularly in 2017. And there's no way as a candidate HC with his football pedigree do I believe for one second, at the most important position on any football team and as a former OC, you're not thinking about who you have at QB. Just really can't buy that one and yes it IS really crazy to think a Shanahan wasn't prepared to draft a QB as a HC or even as a OC.

I praise KS when he deserves it and he's deserved it a lot, and am able to rationally point out when he's demonstrated not so good judgement at probably the most critical position. Does that make him a bad coach? Nope. Just with QBs right now? It just remains to be seen as demonstrated by the record.

We can agree to disagree here.

Lol all that shows was he was willing to draft a developmental QB on day 3 of the draft..he wasn't willing to go all in on a QB 2 months into his job at SF.

What we do know is he wanted Kirk. Right or wrong that was the plan...it was NEVER CJ was gonna be the future FQB. So please stop assuming that.