49er Cornerbacks thread

Originally posted by cciowa:
and every year we find someone who helps us in free agency and do not over pay for them. if you do not know how we do free agency after four years, there is no help for you. no need to get replacements for willis, already on the roster, justin may come back, if not we got docket and the draft, cully worth 8 million? no,, and there is plenty of time to take care of the secondary plus we got kids both at wide out and in the secondary who were either hurt last year or never developed by the former regime..... lupatis replacement is on the roster with the good collection of good kids that were hurt last year and are back. you get to shook up by what other teams are doing, you take your eye off your own ball

Im not worried about Willis's replacement Boreland will be just fine. Im worried about BOTH STARTING CBS gone as was the last 6 starters from the past 2 years secondary. You cannot have that much turnover and expect to be good back there. Im worried about that AWFUL OLINE. I want veteran stability because to me Marcus Martin looked not too promising and Kilgore was never nothing special and Staley is getting old and Boone is so so and AD cannot stay healthy. We need Bodies along the OLINE!!!! Crickets..........We need veteran CBs!! Crickets...........

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by cciowa:
and every year we find someone who helps us in free agency and do not over pay for them. if you do not know how we do free agency after four years, there is no help for you. no need to get replacements for willis, already on the roster, justin may come back, if not we got docket and the draft, cully worth 8 million? no,, and there is plenty of time to take care of the secondary plus we got kids both at wide out and in the secondary who were either hurt last year or never developed by the former regime..... lupatis replacement is on the roster with the good collection of good kids that were hurt last year and are back. you get to shook up by what other teams are doing, you take your eye off your own ball

Im not worried about Willis's replacement Boreland will be just fine. Im worried about BOTH STARTING CBS gone as was the last 6 starters from the past 2 years secondary. You cannot have that much turnover and expect to be good back there. Im worried about that AWFUL OLINE. I want veteran stability because to me Marcus Martin looked not too promising and Kilgore was never nothing special and Staley is getting old and Boone is so so and AD cannot stay healthy. We need Bodies along the OLINE!!!! Crickets..........We need veteran CBs!! Crickets...........

Niners lost both starting corners last year. We are panicking about Culliver who was a starter for ONE season in SF. We are panicking despite the fact that the OTHER corner to start the season is under contract. Cox didn't start the season as a starter...in fact he was the FOURTH corner. Ward is back as well.

Johnson will get a shot at it. Niners will sign someone. A rookie will probably have a shot. So will Acker and Reaser coming off red-shirt seasons.

RELAX.

The NFL league year is a week old. Chill...stuff will get done. Niners just won't be panicked in getting guys they like. Simple as that. This has happened before and it will happen again.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Every year peeps fall into the same traps.

Every guy they bring in will be the starter, right? 5 days into free agency and they're done, right? Haven't had the draft yet and they're done, right?

Anyone remember the reactions to signing Cox? How about Cook? Not every player signed will be the starter. Some are just for depth, some are glorified tryouts.

RELAX.

I was just over in the FA thread and looking at ALL the names of players who were cut/traded b/c their respective teams flamed out in FA and WAY overpaid. Remember all those teams who "won" in FA?

Helpful perspective right now.

Excellent points! Also wonder if Mangini is going to be more agressive with blitzing. The team may need different types of corners. I really like Culliver and Cox but the team's cupboard is not bare by any means and it's early.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Every year peeps fall into the same traps.

Every guy they bring in will be the starter, right? 5 days into free agency and they're done, right? Haven't had the draft yet and they're done, right?

Anyone remember the reactions to signing Cox? How about Cook? Not every player signed will be the starter. Some are just for depth, some are glorified tryouts.

RELAX.

I was just over in the FA thread and looking at ALL the names of players who were cut/traded b/c their respective teams flamed out in FA and WAY overpaid. Remember all those teams who "won" in FA?

Helpful perspective right now.

Excellent points! Also wonder if Mangini is going to be more agressive with blitzing. The team may need different types of corners. I really like Culliver and Cox but the team's cupboard is not bare by any means and it's early.

Agreed.

If baalke can continue to add pass rushers then the need for a big name or noticeable cb won't be greatly needed. We just gotta hope they don't flat out out suck ass

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
If baalke can continue to add pass rushers then the need for a big name or noticeable cb won't be greatly needed. We just gotta hope they don't flat out out suck ass

Aldon Smith
Aaron Lynch
Ahmad Brooks
Darnell Dockett
Justin Smith (maybe)
Tank Carradine

I think we are good for pass rushers.

Probably pick on up in later rounds of the draft, but I don't see them taking one high unless Justin in fact retires.

At corner, I'm actually excited to see what Johnson, Acker, and Reaser can look like in camp and preseason.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Niners lost both starting corners last year. We are panicking about Culliver who was a starter for ONE season in SF. We are panicking despite the fact that the OTHER corner to start the season is under contract. Cox didn't start the season as a starter...in fact he was the FOURTH corner. Ward is back as well.

Johnson will get a shot at it. Niners will sign someone. A rookie will probably have a shot. So will Acker and Reaser coming off red-shirt seasons.

RELAX.

The NFL league year is a week old. Chill...stuff will get done. Niners just won't be panicked in getting guys they like. Simple as that. This has happened before and it will happen again.

i just do not understand marvin why some fans still get nuts about this stuff after they have seen the way uses free agency over the years

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Niners lost both starting corners last year. We are panicking about Culliver who was a starter for ONE season in SF. We are panicking despite the fact that the OTHER corner to start the season is under contract. Cox didn't start the season as a starter...in fact he was the FOURTH corner. Ward is back as well.

Johnson will get a shot at it. Niners will sign someone. A rookie will probably have a shot. So will Acker and Reaser coming off red-shirt seasons.

RELAX.

The NFL league year is a week old. Chill...stuff will get done. Niners just won't be panicked in getting guys they like. Simple as that. This has happened before and it will happen again.

i just do not understand marvin why some fans still get nuts about this stuff after they have seen the way uses free agency over the years

madden and fantasy football.

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Im not worried about Willis's replacement Boreland will be just fine. Im worried about BOTH STARTING CBS gone as was the last 6 starters from the past 2 years secondary. You cannot have that much turnover and expect to be good back there. Im worried about that AWFUL OLINE. I want veteran stability because to me Marcus Martin looked not too promising and Kilgore was never nothing special and Staley is getting old and Boone is so so and AD cannot stay healthy. We need Bodies along the OLINE!!!! Crickets..........We need veteran CBs!! Crickets...........

in regards to the o line this is why i am really pumped, ok first off our new coach is not thrilling but thats beside the point, lets look at the players
to me, i disagree with you about kilgore, i thought he was really good. so you got kilgore and m martin who come back after his injury and improved. those kids battle for center best man win,, then you got looney and the kid who had the torn acl in thomas, for over rated lupait . now if thomas is ok and no one is saying otherwise,, he could be a gem. the guys who lose the start job are quality back ups,, dump j martin, bring in a cheap vet for depth and to compete, then maybe you add a young right tackle or something. boone should bounce back like alot of other guys who had down years. staley is staley, a healthy anthony davis is huge. i am excited

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
If baalke can continue to add pass rushers then the need for a big name or noticeable cb won't be greatly needed. We just gotta hope they don't flat out out suck ass

Aldon Smith
Aaron Lynch
Ahmad Brooks
Darnell Dockett
Justin Smith (maybe)
Tank Carradine

I think we are good for pass rushers.

Probably pick on up in later rounds of the draft, but I don't see them taking one high unless Justin in fact retires.

At corner, I'm actually excited to see what Johnson, Acker, and Reaser can look like in camp and preseason.

agree.. i think this regime is more open to developing and giving a chance to young kids in regards to our corners and wide outs than last years regime

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Apparently the 49ers arent interested in covering WR's next year...

Brock is solid, but Ward and Johnson being the next best 2, coming off their rookie seasons?...yikes.

Our run D is going to get tested only like 7 times a game.

you have come to this conclusion on march 13th? wow. i am impressed

Based on the way our roster looks right now? Yes.

If you look at the list of free agent CB's, youll find that there isnt really anyone left, and even the best rookie CB get torched in their first season.

Baalke is essentially putting all his eggs in the Jimmie Ward/Dontae Johnson basket.

Originally posted by genz22:

Nobody knew Richard Sherman until he got on the field as a rookie. Point? I'm excited to see the youth get on the field!

Yeah, but you cant expect to find a Richard Sherman. 5th round elite CB's are very few and far between. Plus we dont have an Adderall dispenser in our locker room.

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by cciowa:
and every year we find someone who helps us in free agency and do not over pay for them. if you do not know how we do free agency after four years, there is no help for you. no need to get replacements for willis, already on the roster, justin may come back, if not we got docket and the draft, cully worth 8 million? no,, and there is plenty of time to take care of the secondary plus we got kids both at wide out and in the secondary who were either hurt last year or never developed by the former regime..... lupatis replacement is on the roster with the good collection of good kids that were hurt last year and are back. you get to shook up by what other teams are doing, you take your eye off your own ball

Im not worried about Willis's replacement Boreland will be just fine. Im worried about BOTH STARTING CBS gone as was the last 6 starters from the past 2 years secondary. You cannot have that much turnover and expect to be good back there. Im worried about that AWFUL OLINE. I want veteran stability because to me Marcus Martin looked not too promising and Kilgore was never nothing special and Staley is getting old and Boone is so so and AD cannot stay healthy. We need Bodies along the OLINE!!!! Crickets..........We need veteran CBs!! Crickets...........

Now your just being over dramatic. Anthony Davis didn't miss a game his first four years in the league. One season of injuries does not mean he can't stay healthy.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
Niners lost both starting corners last year. We are panicking about Culliver who was a starter for ONE season in SF. We are panicking despite the fact that the OTHER corner to start the season is under contract. Cox didn't start the season as a starter...in fact he was the FOURTH corner. Ward is back as well.

Johnson will get a shot at it. Niners will sign someone. A rookie will probably have a shot. So will Acker and Reaser coming off red-shirt seasons.

RELAX.

The NFL league year is a week old. Chill...stuff will get done. Niners just won't be panicked in getting guys they like. Simple as that. This has happened before and it will happen again.

Shawntae Spenser won't ever start!
How can we live without Spenser?

Carlos Rogers? He can't play.
How can we replace Carlos Rogers?

Terrell Brown?
Donte Whitner?
Dashon Goldson?

All irreplacable! The sky is falling!


How many CBs has this team gone through without drafting one in the first round? Shawntae Spenser in 2004! Nope...he was second round.

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:

Originally posted by cciowa:
and every year we find someone who helps us in free agency and do not over pay for them. if you do not know how we do free agency after four years, there is no help for you. no need to get replacements for willis, already on the roster, justin may come back, if not we got docket and the draft, cully worth 8 million? no,, and there is plenty of time to take care of the secondary plus we got kids both at wide out and in the secondary who were either hurt last year or never developed by the former regime..... lupatis replacement is on the roster with the good collection of good kids that were hurt last year and are back. you get to shook up by what other teams are doing, you take your eye off your own ball

Im not worried about Willis's replacement Boreland will be just fine. Im worried about BOTH STARTING CBS gone as was the last 6 starters from the past 2 years secondary. You cannot have that much turnover and expect to be good back there. Im worried about that AWFUL OLINE. I want veteran stability because to me Marcus Martin looked not too promising and Kilgore was never nothing special and Staley is getting old and Boone is so so and AD cannot stay healthy. We need Bodies along the OLINE!!!! Crickets..........We need veteran CBs!! Crickets...........

Now your just being over dramatic. Anthony Davis didn't miss a game his first four years in the league. One season of injuries does not mean he can't stay healthy.

+1 Davis is not injury prone.