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Originally posted by NCommand:
A team can not just replace the leadership, heart, work ethic, will to win, etc. of Justin and Gore. However, you can replace their production. Justin had a good year but again, you only need to replace 43 tackles (lowest of his career), 5 sacks, 2 FF's, and 3 STF's. For reference, in 2013, Dockett had 46 tackles, 4.5 sacks and 10 STF's. In limited snaps last year, Carradine alone had 17 tackles, 3 sacks and 3 STF's.

He's ready! Ha...right on que: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Carradine-Could-Have-Breakthrough-2015-Season-for-49ers-295006851.html

"Carradine, in fact, was at his best over the final three games of the 2014 season as he got more playing time. Against the Seahawks in Seattle, he had two sacks; in the final game against Arizona, he had three tackles and a sack."

As to Frank, he ranked low in PFF with a -.8 grade and replacing 1,106 yards (lowest of his career) and a 4.35 average with only 4 TD's should not be difficult to do in a run-heavy offense like ours. Hyde alone averaged 5.7 yards. He's ready too.

It's just hard, emotionally, to move on.

Justin was responsible for much of Aldon Smith's success, Pat and NaVorro being all pro, and the defense being able to play a three man line much of the time with little to no help. That might not show up in production numbers but it won't be replaced by Carradine. There aren't too many "Great" players in the game but Justin is one of them. The niners have been very fortunate to have quite a few guys who will go down as among the five best at their positions...ever! The one thing JS has going against his legacy is that he played an unsung role...take on three guys and let Aldon rack up sacks. I can't think of a DL that could wrap his left arm around the OG and sweep two OL into a third to open a huge hole for a pass rusher, and still containing the outside if necessary.

What I'm saying is no one person will be able to replace his production. It will take two DL to play at a high level to do what JS did. McDonald and Williams/Dorsey were good linemen but they were greatly helped by the opposition having to concentrate on Smith. Imagine Carradine, Williams and Dorsey as the 3 linemen next year...not a good prospect, so the coaches will need to use LBs more to help out. That's one reason I think they may try to bolster the CBs...domino effect when you lose a guy like this.

I wasn't a fan of Goodwin but the same thing happened to the OL over the past few years. You can't just plug in a guy at center and hope they build a rapport. It's a tough thing for the line and is under rated. I think we have agreed on this in the past...no? (this is a bit off the topic of Justin but... )
Believe it or not, the word on the street is that Kaep feels like he's f**ked going from Jim Harbaugh to "the Logan Zone", lmfao. Too bad for him.

My nephew told me he saw Kaep at Adapt Clothing (a brand Kaep models for) in Serramonte Mall in Daly City, and he asked him straight up.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Believe it or not, the word on the street is that Kaep feels like he's f**ked going from Jim Harbaugh to "the Logan Zone", lmfao. Too bad for him.

My nephew told me he saw Kaep at Adapt Clothing (a brand Kaep models for) in Serramonte Mall in Daly City, and he asked him straight up.

lol, oh verb who's mail room cousin was it this time..He hasnt even talked to Logan..and it's mostly Geep role as Harbaughs
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Believe it or not, the word on the street is that Kaep feels like he's f**ked going from Jim Harbaugh to "the Logan Zone", lmfao. Too bad for him.

My nephew told me he saw Kaep at Adapt Clothing (a brand Kaep models for) in Serramonte Mall in Daly City, and he asked him straight up.

ok,, verb,, can we just stop it,, yesterday it was some uncle of some friend in some mail room and now today its your nephew. the word, agenda just wants to leap off my key board
Originally posted by cciowa:
ok,, verb,, can we just stop it,, yesterday it was some uncle of some friend in some mail room and now today its your nephew. the word, agenda just wants to leap off my key board

just put yourself in Kaep's shoes, wouldn't you feel the same? dont even lie
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol, oh verb who's mail room cousin was it this time..He hasnt even talked to Logan..and it's mostly Geep role as Harbaughs

Wth is a "mailroom cousin" ?! ....it was a guy I know who works in the mailroom that claims he's Stevie's uncle!
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by cciowa:
ok,, verb,, can we just stop it,, yesterday it was some uncle of some friend in some mail room and now today its your nephew. the word, agenda just wants to leap off my key board

just put yourself in Kaep's shoes, wouldn't you feel the same? dont even lie
i saw your mom and dad today at the 13th street inn in the town where i live and they told me when you were little they had to install two way locks on your bedroom door. can you blame them? don't even lie. they even had pictures. wow you were a ugly kid verb
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
lol, oh verb who's mail room cousin was it this time..He hasnt even talked to Logan..and it's mostly Geep role as Harbaughs

Wth is a "mailroom cousin" ?! ....it was a guy I know who works in the mailroom that claims he's Stevie's uncle!

oh well thats different. now i believe you
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by cciowa:
ok,, verb,, can we just stop it,, yesterday it was some uncle of some friend in some mail room and now today its your nephew. the word, agenda just wants to leap off my key board

just put yourself in Kaep's shoes, wouldn't you feel the same? dont even lie
i saw your mom and dad today at the 13th street inn in the town where i live and they told me when you were little they had to install two way locks on your bedroom door. can you blame them? don't even lie. they even had pictures. wow you were a ugly kid verb

lol
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Originally posted by SaksV:
Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary talked a good game but it was different IMO.... Nolan just spat empty promises in an articulate fashion, Singletary was just a big bag of cliche's and one-liners that lack substance and no plan. Steve Logan comes off as a guy that at least has an idea of what he's talking about, not just answering questions for the sake of answering them.

You need a little context with the criticism of Nolan and Singletary... and in some ways, their failure (IMO) is far less egregious then the last departure.

Nolan was working with a gutted team that had to be rebuilt through the draft and a couple free agents... with NO LINE, poor receivers, constant turnover at the OC spot (they were getting HC gigs ) and a slightly above average QB. So, though I don't believe Nolan is a great HC, I do believe he would have done A LOT better with this team then the one he had.

Singletary took a team that lost it's ability to follow and got it on the same page... Unfortunately, his impassivity and inability to acquire a decent OC sunk his tenure.

HARBAUGH>>> had it made and let his inability to recognize offensive "SCHEMATIC" deficiency cost him a SB and dominance in the NFC West. Could Nolan have done better??? maybe not, but I know Nolan wouldn't have kept Roman around.
[ Edited by Geeked on Mar 4, 2015 at 10:44 AM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
just put yourself in Kaep's shoes, wouldn't you feel the same? dont even lie

I would but his feet and hands are too small...shoes and gloves don't fit!
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
A team can not just replace the leadership, heart, work ethic, will to win, etc. of Justin and Gore. However, you can replace their production. Justin had a good year but again, you only need to replace 43 tackles (lowest of his career), 5 sacks, 2 FF's, and 3 STF's. For reference, in 2013, Dockett had 46 tackles, 4.5 sacks and 10 STF's. In limited snaps last year, Carradine alone had 17 tackles, 3 sacks and 3 STF's.

He's ready! Ha...right on que: http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/sports/Carradine-Could-Have-Breakthrough-2015-Season-for-49ers-295006851.html

"Carradine, in fact, was at his best over the final three games of the 2014 season as he got more playing time. Against the Seahawks in Seattle, he had two sacks; in the final game against Arizona, he had three tackles and a sack."

As to Frank, he ranked low in PFF with a -.8 grade and replacing 1,106 yards (lowest of his career) and a 4.35 average with only 4 TD's should not be difficult to do in a run-heavy offense like ours. Hyde alone averaged 5.7 yards. He's ready too.

It's just hard, emotionally, to move on.

Justin was responsible for much of Aldon Smith's success, Pat and NaVorro being all pro, and the defense being able to play a three man line much of the time with little to no help. That might not show up in production numbers but it won't be replaced by Carradine. There aren't too many "Great" players in the game but Justin is one of them. The niners have been very fortunate to have quite a few guys who will go down as among the five best at their positions...ever! The one thing JS has going against his legacy is that he played an unsung role...take on three guys and let Aldon rack up sacks. I can't think of a DL that could wrap his left arm around the OG and sweep two OL into a third to open a huge hole for a pass rusher, and still containing the outside if necessary.

What I'm saying is no one person will be able to replace his production. It will take two DL to play at a high level to do what JS did. McDonald and Williams/Dorsey were good linemen but they were greatly helped by the opposition having to concentrate on Smith. Imagine Carradine, Williams and Dorsey as the 3 linemen next year...not a good prospect, so the coaches will need to use LBs more to help out. That's one reason I think they may try to bolster the CBs...domino effect when you lose a guy like this.

I wasn't a fan of Goodwin but the same thing happened to the OL over the past few years. You can't just plug in a guy at center and hope they build a rapport. It's a tough thing for the line and is under rated. I think we have agreed on this in the past...no? (this is a bit off the topic of Justin but... )

I'm buying what you're selling man! That said is unclear how Mangini is going to use the DEs. They may be more active and aggressive vs. mostly tying up 2 OL often fir Aldon. That said we have seen a drop off of Justin to do this late the last two seasons and Aldon's numbers have dropped too consequently. He's a special plays still though.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Believe it or not, the word on the street is that Kaep feels like he's f**ked going from Jim Harbaugh to "the Logan Zone", lmfao. Too bad for him.

My nephew told me he saw Kaep at Adapt Clothing (a brand Kaep models for) in Serramonte Mall in Daly City, and he asked him straight up.


I'll entertain this. When did your nephew speak with Colin?
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Originally posted by verb1der:
Believe it or not, the word on the street is that Kaep feels like he's f**ked going from Jim Harbaugh to "the Logan Zone", lmfao. Too bad for him.

My nephew told me he saw Kaep at Adapt Clothing (a brand Kaep models for) in Serramonte Mall in Daly City, and he asked him straight up.



Even if that is how he feels, why would Kap reveal that kind of information to some random fan?
Originally posted by NCommand:
I'm buying what you're selling man! That said is unclear how Mangini is going to use the DEs. They may be more active and aggressive vs. mostly tying up 2 OL often fir Aldon. That said we have seen a drop off of Justin to do this late the last two seasons and Aldon's numbers have dropped too consequently. He's a special plays still though.

I'd love to see Justin stay another year and groom DL while playing fewer minutes. A rotation of Smith, Carradine, Dial, Dorsey, Williams, Okoye, Ramsey and a rookie/FA NT would be great! Keeping the DL fresh and healthy should be a major goal this year.
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