And here it is prior to the UDFA:
Current Offensive Personnel:
QB: Colin Kaepernick; Blaine Gabbert
RB1: Carlos Hyde; Mike Davis, Kendall Gaskins
RB2: Reggie Bush; Kendall Hunter & Jarryd Hayne
H-Back: Derek Carrier; Rory 'Busta' Anderson
TE: Vernon Davis; Vance McDonald, Blake Bell, Garrett Celek, Asante Cleveland & Xavier Grimble
FB: Bruce Miller; Trey Millard
X: Anquan Boldin; Quinton Patton & DeAndre Smelter
Y (SLOT): Bruce Ellington; Chuck Jacobs
Z: Torrey Smith; Jerome Simpson
LOT: Joe Staley; Erik Pears & Trenton Brown
ROT: Anthony Davis; Chris Martin & Ian Silberman
LG: Brandon Thomas/Marcus Martin; Andrew Tiller & Trenton Brown
RG: Alex Boone; Joe Looney
C: Daniel Kilgore/Marcus Martin; Dillon Farrell
Current Defensive Personnel:
RDE: Tank Carradine/Darnell Dockett; Kaleb Ramsey & Lawrence Okoye
LDE: Quinton Dial/Arik Armstead; Tony Jerrod-Eddie
NT: Glenn Dorsey/Ian Williams; Mike Purcell & Garrison Smith
WILL: Aldon Smith/Eli Harold; Corey Lemonier
SAM: Ahmad Brooks/Aaron Lynch
TED: Michael Wilhoite; Philip Wheeler, Desmond Bishop & Shayne Skov
MIKE: Navarro Bowman; Nick Moody & Nick Bellore
RCB: Dontae Johnson; Shareece Wright & Leon McFadden
LCB: Tramaine Brock; Chris Cook & Marcus Cromartie
SLOT: Jimmie Ward; Kenneth Acker & Keith Reaser
NICKLE/DIME (SS/ILB): Jaquiski Tartt
FS: Eric Reid; L.J. McCray
SS: Antoine Bethea; Craig Dahl
Current Special Teams:
LS: Kyle Nelson
PK: Phil Dawson
P: Andy Lee; Bradley Pinion
PR/KOR: Bruce Ellington; Reggie Bush, Kendall Hunter & Jarryd Hayne
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May 2, 2015 at 3:36 PM
- NCommand
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May 2, 2015 at 3:38 PM
- Young2Rice
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None of the top three need addressed?
May 2, 2015 at 3:41 PM
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No QB
May 2, 2015 at 3:47 PM
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Throwing out the potential needs for the 2016 draft. Only 361 days to go.
1. WR - It depends on if boldin leaves and how Patton/Ellington play and what they think of Smelter.
2. TE - If vernon is gone it could be a big need depending on how McDonald, Bell and Carrier do.
3. G - Boone likely gone can the guys who dont win LG this year take over (say Thomas LG, then Martin/Looney/Brown)
4. ILB - Ideally we upgrade over Wilhoite but he's likely here long term at least as a backup. How do Wheeler/Bishop do? Need a #3/2?
5. CB - Depends on how all these young guys play.
1. WR - It depends on if boldin leaves and how Patton/Ellington play and what they think of Smelter.
2. TE - If vernon is gone it could be a big need depending on how McDonald, Bell and Carrier do.
3. G - Boone likely gone can the guys who dont win LG this year take over (say Thomas LG, then Martin/Looney/Brown)
4. ILB - Ideally we upgrade over Wilhoite but he's likely here long term at least as a backup. How do Wheeler/Bishop do? Need a #3/2?
5. CB - Depends on how all these young guys play.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on May 2, 2015 at 3:51 PM ]
May 2, 2015 at 3:49 PM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
None of the top three need addressed?
Huh? All three were addressed.
May 2, 2015 at 3:50 PM
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As for 2015 no ILB, no qb, no cb. Im sure baalke see's a lot of promise in all the young cb's. With QB I bet we just keep 2 and go 4rb/2fb so we will need the extra spot. That or use it on something else. Doubt an udfa makes it as #3. As for ILB I guess we have confidence in Wheeler/Bishop/Moody/Skov. Even if we didnt like the class wouldn't have hurt to brought in more competition. No kicker isn't surprising if we cut Dawson we would go the free agent route. We havent drafted a kicker in like 13 years. Honestly, I was fine going in with what we had for QB, WR, CB but of course you can always get better depth.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on May 2, 2015 at 3:52 PM ]
May 2, 2015 at 4:00 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
None of the top three need addressed?
Huh? All three were addressed.
Oh, I didn't realize Arik was considered DT. I thought DE.
What about WR though? If we are red shirting him I don't know if i would consider that need met, for this year at least.
What about ILB?
And, btw, i'm going off the OP. Not sure if that was the latest up to date need post.
May 2, 2015 at 4:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gore_21:
Throwing out the potential needs for the 2016 draft. Only 361 days to go.
1. WR - It depends on if boldin leaves and how Patton/Ellington play and what they think of Smelter.
2. TE - If vernon is gone it could be a big need depending on how McDonald, Bell and Carrier do.
3. G - Boone likely gone can the guys who dont win LG this year take over (say Thomas LG, then Martin/Looney/Brown)
4. ILB - Ideally we upgrade over Wilhoite but he's likely here long term at least as a backup. How do Wheeler/Bishop do? Need a #3/2?
5. CB - Depends on how all these young guys play.
Four years and we still haven't learned? No use predicting what our 'needs' are. Baalke uses the draft to prepare for the future, uses FA to fill immediate needs, and brings in competition to push everyone. He'll go BPA next year, just like he did this year. and the year before. and the year before. and the year before.....
May 2, 2015 at 4:16 PM
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Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Throwing out the potential needs for the 2016 draft. Only 361 days to go.
1. WR - It depends on if boldin leaves and how Patton/Ellington play and what they think of Smelter.
2. TE - If vernon is gone it could be a big need depending on how McDonald, Bell and Carrier do.
3. G - Boone likely gone can the guys who dont win LG this year take over (say Thomas LG, then Martin/Looney/Brown)
4. ILB - Ideally we upgrade over Wilhoite but he's likely here long term at least as a backup. How do Wheeler/Bishop do? Need a #3/2?
5. CB - Depends on how all these young guys play.
Four years and we still haven't learned? No use predicting what our 'needs' are. Baalke uses the draft to prepare for the future, uses FA to fill immediate needs, and brings in competition to push everyone. He'll go BPA next year, just like he did this year. and the year before. and the year before. and the year before.....
i don't get why people keep saying this. eric reid was drafted for need. so were aj jenkins, jimmie ward, vance mcdonald, davis/iupati, borland, etc
May 2, 2015 at 4:21 PM
- ElephantHaley
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D+ Draft. Unbelievable Balke does it again. I just cannot see eye to eye with this dude. I Love the 49ers and Want them to succeed but Balke is way in over his head. Outside of Arik and Eli, this draft has gone down the Pooper for me ouch.
May 2, 2015 at 4:29 PM
- phatbutskinny
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Originally posted by lucky_49:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Throwing out the potential needs for the 2016 draft. Only 361 days to go.
1. WR - It depends on if boldin leaves and how Patton/Ellington play and what they think of Smelter.
2. TE - If vernon is gone it could be a big need depending on how McDonald, Bell and Carrier do.
3. G - Boone likely gone can the guys who dont win LG this year take over (say Thomas LG, then Martin/Looney/Brown)
4. ILB - Ideally we upgrade over Wilhoite but he's likely here long term at least as a backup. How do Wheeler/Bishop do? Need a #3/2?
5. CB - Depends on how all these young guys play.
Four years and we still haven't learned? No use predicting what our 'needs' are. Baalke uses the draft to prepare for the future, uses FA to fill immediate needs, and brings in competition to push everyone. He'll go BPA next year, just like he did this year. and the year before. and the year before. and the year before.....
i don't get why people keep saying this. eric reid was drafted for need. so were aj jenkins, jimmie ward, vance mcdonald, davis/iupati, borland, etc
Eric Reid might be the only one. At this point, you are calling every position a need. Ward was not a need, Vance was not a need, Davis/Iupati was Scotty MC's draft, and Borland was not a need at the time.
When posters in here say 'need' I assume they mean that there is a need to draft someone who can come in and start. Otherwise, it shouldn't be called a need, because then, every position of every draft for every team could be considered a need.
May 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM
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nm
[ Edited by Young2Rice on May 2, 2015 at 4:33 PM ]
May 2, 2015 at 4:32 PM
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lol why did you put that post in here? its like every thread is filled with that crap. put it where it belongs not in ncommands needs thread.
May 2, 2015 at 4:59 PM
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D+....? Wow. Now we could have drafted the first 7 picks in the draft for an A+. But that won't ever happen, so rds 4-7 you are drafting talent...and we did. I don't see how that equates to D+ after we took care of most of our needs thru rd 4. Maybe not who you wanted, but F.O. has seen way more tape than any of us, plus seen guys up close and personal. You seem to not trust Trent, where many of the rest of us do. Nobody will be right here until first game , or 4th game of season. Then we will get an idea. Barbaw did not develop players and that incl at QB. Tomsula is known for it. He needed talent. He got it. Now we wait.
May 2, 2015 at 6:06 PM
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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
None of the top three need addressed?
Huh? All three were addressed.
Oh, I didn't realize Arik was considered DT. I thought DE.
What about WR though? If we are red shirting him I don't know if i would consider that need met, for this year at least.
What about ILB?
And, btw, i'm going off the OP. Not sure if that was the latest up to date need post.
I guess it depends on your perspective of "need." But for me, Baalke nailed almost ALL of the needs coming into this draft.
Originally posted by NCommand:
So far Baalke has hit on 3-4 of our top needs through day 2 plus acquired an additional 4th rounder (117) and a 5th next year.
Top Tier: Theme = "4-down players"
OLB - This was my top need coming in and we got a 1st/2nd round-talent at pick #79 with Eli Harold. We'll have a sick rotation now with Aldon/Harold and Brooks/Lynch. Confirmed he'll play ST as well.
DE - Safe to say Baalke got his 4-tech rare 3-4 DE in Arik Armstead. He'll work in slowly on passing downs freeing up Aldon. He'll also be on block-FG teams. We also added a 4th (TE Blake Bell) and high 5th next year.
WR - We missed out on DGB just like Benjamin last year. Bummer. We needed that rare X WR who is big bodied and a playmaker outside. We got that in Boldin's heir apparent in DeAndre Smelter on the all ACL-team. He's already 6 months into his rehab but we don't "need" him until 2016.
ILB - Technically, Jaquiski Tartt fills the Kam Chancellor role of being our hybrid FS/ILB on the nickel/dime defensive sets while he grows into the SS role and also plays outstanding ST's (coverage units). Tone-setter.
RB - With Hyde, Bush, Hunter and others plus CK, and possibly moving to a ZBS, we may not even need another RB here. But the hell with that. We added Mike Davis anyhow! Baalke just closed out the top 5 needs with ease.
Second Tier:
LG - Trenton Brown clearly fits that "big-bodied pulling G."
CB - We're deep big time in numbers here and with the middle of the defense strong, insane depth in the front 7 and rotational DL and pass rushers inside and outside, the secondary may lead the league in TO's again. Look for an UDFA to be added or a post May 12th add but otherwise, this group is deep and competitive.
FS - See ILB
LT/RT - We added a beast in Ian Silberman and Dallas' 6th in 2016.
NT - We were (this close) to getting Danny Shelton. But I'm happy with how things worked out.
QB - Logan lost out on both Garrett Grayson & Sean Mannion so look to UDFA's for this camp body.
Third Tier:
PK - Bradley Pinion's leg cover P and a backup PK!
P - See PK
TE/H-Back - We added not one but two tall redzone threats in Blake Bell & Rory 'Busta' Anderson
Baalke actually ended up covering more of my top needs than my own mock draft!
In the end he didn't address NT (missed out on both Shelton and Goldman), QB and CB. But technically, we have 3 NT's on the roster right now, our #1 & #2 QB's are more than secure and we're very deep and competitive at CB (as Baalke already alluded too).
So IMHO, this was another
draft that will pay dividends in packages in 2015 and starters in 2016 replacing old veterans!
[ Edited by NCommand on May 2, 2015 at 6:07 PM ]
