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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Rascal:
OK fair enough.

How about Jon Gruden ? I know he has just re-upped his contract with ESPN, but contracts can be broken I suppose. The dude keeps saying he would love to get back to coaching, well provided is the right job. I am quite sure he will be interested in the 9ers job.

Gruden's not going anywhere. The guy seems perfectly content with his life, and how can you blame him. He makes almost the same amount as he would make coaching, he works about three days a week, gets plenty of off time, his job is low stress, he's already won a Superbowl, I can't see any potential reason for him to get back into coaching. I think he's happy with the Madden route.



Even if he was interested, with the way he basically buried the Bucs franchise, kicked out the GM who had drafted their Superbowl winning roster, passed up on Aaron Rodgers when he constantly complained about needing a QB and overall was pretty mediocre during his time there, I wouldn't really want him with the 49ers. He's more overrated than he is elite. Bucs still haven't won a single playoff game since that Superbowl over a decade ago. He and his buddy Allen left that franchise in pretty much the same shape as the 49ers were left in after Donahue.

This x 10000000000000000000...................................
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Right now, the 5 names I'd look at are:

1. Frank Reich (Chargers) - Largely credited with helping turn back around Rivers and have him play well again. Could he do the same with Kaepernick? Can he build a great staff?

2. Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M) - He will need to have a strong defensive coordinator, but the offense would likely see a large boost in creativity.

3. David Shaw (Stanford) - Has NFL experience, is a proven winner, and could likely retain the majority of our staff while helping sustain overall stability. If he gets a great OC, this might be the best possible option for the team, in my opinion.

4. Vic Fangio - Obviously Vic is a guy nearly impossible to replace in terms of what he's been able to get out of our guys and being able to call games nearly to perfection. Questions though would be who would the OC be? And would being HC cause his performance to suffer when calling defensive plays? Those things happen.

5. Jim Tomsula - After a lot of thought, I don't think it actually would be a bad move if Tomsula was given a shot. DL Coach is certainly a great fit for him, but he has experience as both a head coach and defensive coordinator. In 2004, he was the DC of the Berlin Thunder who went 9-1 and won the World Bowl for NFL Europe. The next year he led the Rhein Fire to a winning record of 6-4 as a HC. Of course he also won his only game as an interim HC for the 49ers, 38-7. The players love him, and he has well-observed success in developing defensive players. Again, the offensive staff under him would be a major question.

I'm really not in favor of a college coach. This is a team that with people healthy, can legitimately be a Superbowl contender so experimenting with someone right out of college, who may or may not succeed and despite guys like Harbaugh and Kelly, most college coaches have struggled in the NFL, I think you need someone with a good NFL background.


Shaw is an interesting candidate because he has NFL experience but his offense is rooted in the same Harbaugh system that people are currently ticked off about. He's also had the familiar red zone struggles and is coming off a pretty lousy year for his program overall. IF he can get a top notch veteran OC, then that is a possibility but if he's just shuffling in some random OC, then I would see this as a big downgrade. I think Harbaugh for all his wacky intensity and aloofness is a better coach than Shaw overall.



I don't like Sumlin at all, he's been going backwards, not forwards in terms of his success in college. One of the posters here put up an NFL Network podcast where they were discussing potential NFL head coaching candidates amongst college coaches and Sumlin was seen as being way at the back, well behind guys like Shaw, Mora and Brian Kelly. Not a fan of that pick.


As far as Reich, he has some of the same issues as with Gase and Hamilton. Can they be leaders in the locker room for an entire franchise. What kind of staffs could they put together. Being that none of them have been head coaches before, there's a lot of things that would need to be looked at ultimately. Also, unlike Gase and Hamilton, Reich is only in his first season of being an NFL offensive coordinator.



I still see Kubiak as the top choice in that he would bring stability, proven NFL experience but not ridiculously old, a good offensive background(his Houston teams were routinely in the Top 10 of NFL offenses) and the ability to put together a quality NFL staff with him. If any medical issues check out, I think with this roster, he could do very well. I also think he's credible enough that Fangio might stick around and not feel like he's being lectured to by a kid such as a guy like Gase who is 36 years old I think.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Dec 17, 2014 at 11:24 AM ]
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Originally posted by susweel:
harbaugh >>>>>>> any of those guys

Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...
Originally posted by Geeked:
Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...

i hate roman too but it was our defense that did not perform in that superbowl. But i cannot believe how bad roman is.
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by Geeked:
Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...

i hate roman too but it was our defense that did not perform in that superbowl. But i cannot believe how bad roman is.

Well, to my point, Kubs may have been able to keep pace and possibly changed the momentum.
[ Edited by Geeked on Dec 17, 2014 at 11:33 AM ]
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Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by susweel:
harbaugh >>>>>>> any of those guys

Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...

lol Kubiak career coaching record 61-64
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by susweel:
harbaugh >>>>>>> any of those guys

Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...

lol Kubiak career coaching record 61-64

HaRoman has one of the worst scoring offenses in the past four years.... So ya.

And Kubiak had to coach Rick Smith's mess of a roster. HaRoman, never had that challenge. Personally, I wouldn't document too many more accolades for HaRoman. Next year won't turn out the way many (that like Harbaugh) anticipate.
My vote goes to Kubiak. The 2013 Ravens experienced a similar offensive collapse as the 2014 49ers. Couldn't pass, couldn't run, o-line and the franchise QB regressed.

Kubiak fixed all of that year 1. He's always been a top playcaller and runs a great WCO scheme. He had Schaubtato looking like a borderline elite QB for years. Imagine what he could do with Kap.

Kubiak is the man for the job.
Originally posted by susweel:
lol Kubiak career coaching record 61-64

He never had a roster remotely as talented as what the 49ers have had. His defenses struggled with a major lack of talent for years. You've complained about Baalke, take a look at what Rick Smith, Houston's GM has accomplished since 2006. Other than JJ Watt and a couple of other picks, it was pretty damn dismal.

2007

Amobi Okoye (1)Jacoby Jones (3)Fred Bennett (4)Brandon Harrison (5)Brandon Frye (5)Kasey Studdard (6)Zac Diles (7)

2008

Duane Brown (1)Antwaun Molden (3)Steve Slaton (3)Xavier Adibi (4)Frank Okam (5)Dominique Barber (6)Alex Brink (7)

2009

Brian Cushing (1)Connor Barwin (2)Antoine Caldwell (3)Glover Quin (4)Anthony Hill (4)James Casey (5)Brice McCain (6)Troy Nolan (7)
2010

Kareem Jackson (1)Ben Tate (2)Earl Mitchell (3)Darryl Sharpton (4)Garrett Graham (4)Sherrick McManis (5)Shelley Smith (6)Trindon Holliday (6)Dorin Dickerson (7)


[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Dec 17, 2014 at 11:47 AM ]
I think the front office already knows who they want.
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
I think the front office already knows who they want.

Hologram Bill Walsh......to be protected by Hologram 2Pac

[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Dec 17, 2014 at 11:49 AM ]
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Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by susweel:
harbaugh >>>>>>> any of those guys

Ehhhh, honestly, I really believe Kubiak could have taken this team to the SB with Fangio running the D. This team ROAD the D. One could only imagine what could have been if a Kubiak instead of Roman was calling plays in 2012...

lol Kubiak career coaching record 61-64

He was 22-10 (2-2 in the playoffs) when he finally had a legit defensive coordinator. No one saw Matt Schaub completely forgetting how to play QB just a year later, which is what got him fired.
My preferred order:

Gase
Hamilton
Kubiak
Holmgren

Do not want any of the others
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by susweel:
lol Kubiak career coaching record 61-64

He never had a roster remotely as talented as what the 49ers have had. His defenses struggled with a major lack of talent for years. You've complained about Baalke, take a look at what Rick Smith, Houston's GM has accomplished since 2006. Other than JJ Watt and a couple of other picks, it was pretty damn dismal.

2007

Amobi Okoye (1)Jacoby Jones (3)Fred Bennett (4)Brandon Harrison (5)Brandon Frye (5)Kasey Studdard (6)Zac Diles (7)

2008

Duane Brown (1)Antwaun Molden (3)Steve Slaton (3)Xavier Adibi (4)Frank Okam (5)Dominique Barber (6)Alex Brink (7)

2009

Brian Cushing (1)Connor Barwin (2)Antoine Caldwell (3)Glover Quin (4)Anthony Hill (4)James Casey (5)Brice McCain (6)Troy Nolan (7)
2010

Kareem Jackson (1)Ben Tate (2)Earl Mitchell (3)Darryl Sharpton (4)Garrett Graham (4)Sherrick McManis (5)Shelley Smith (6)Trindon Holliday (6)Dorin Dickerson (7)


I see you'r familiar with Mr. Smith too.

I live in Houston and have season ticks for the Texans. They're my "other woman". I grew and went to school on the West Coast.... born, raised 49ers. But, when I moved to Houston, I took them on. The fact their first draft pick is my undergrad alum helps too.
yuck. Who voted Mora? If we're going with a DC, I hope we just promote Vic.
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