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Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Just a theoretical, but let's say Harbaugh refuses to can Roman, but is open to demoting him. Would you guys be cool with that? Maybe have a similar setup like the Cowboys do (Linehan is the passing game OC, Callahan the running game OC).

Roman would be the run game OC, and we bring in someone else to specialize and revamp the passing offense. Thoughts?

This is assuming Roman is a robot and has absolutely no feelings whatsoever right? If so, then yes I'd be open to demoting him to offensive waterboy!

I'm sure Roman would be ok with it if we gave him a pizza
[ Edited by blizzuntz on Dec 15, 2014 at 1:29 PM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Just a theoretical, but let's say Harbaugh refuses to can Roman, but is open to demoting him. Would you guys be cool with that? Maybe have a similar setup like the Cowboys do (Linehan is the passing game OC, Callahan the running game OC).

Roman would be the run game OC, and we bring in someone else to specialize and revamp the passing offense. Thoughts?

This is assuming Roman is a robot and has absolutely no feelings whatsoever right? If so, then yes I'd be open to demoting him to offensive waterboy!

I dunno. Water boy can be a tough and demanding job. Do we need car park attendants?
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Originally posted by father49er:
The offense has definitely underperformed, but keep in mind the most important part of the offense, the offensive line, has been a revolving door this entire season. The o-line play is what contributed to Kap being the most sacked QB in the league this year. And as much as I hate to say this, Gore isn't what he used to be, and it's also hurt the run game. Injuries combined with mediocre offense coordination led to this disappointing year.

Some of it's Oline and some of its on Kaep. Sometimes Kaep stares down the rush instead of keeping his eyes down field.
[ Edited by Hopper on Dec 15, 2014 at 1:59 PM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Just a theoretical, but let's say Harbaugh refuses to can Roman, but is open to demoting him. Would you guys be cool with that? Maybe have a similar setup like the Cowboys do (Linehan is the passing game OC, Callahan the running game OC).

Roman would be the run game OC, and we bring in someone else to specialize and revamp the passing offense. Thoughts?

This is assuming Roman is a robot and has absolutely no feelings whatsoever right? If so, then yes I'd be open to demoting him to offensive waterboy!

lol. Honestly, Roman seems like a yes-man to me. He'd take it and love it. His NFL career is tied to Harbaugh.

Going back to the Cowboys, they did exactly that with Callahan who is waaaaaay more qualified and credible than Roman. He went from the OC to run-game coordinator, they brought in Linehan to coordinate the passing offense and they greatly improved. Callahan probably didn't like it, but you can't argue with the results.

I think we could pull off a similar move. It's been well documented that Roman is an offensive line/ run game guy, and he has some ability to draw up creative run designs. Let him concentrate on that.
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
I have a feeling that Baalke doesn't want Harbaugh and that is what this is all about. This started before this season.

Ok... Why?

I am not Privy to why, but there were already indications last season that the two didn't get along, if you remember.
[ Edited by Jakemall on Dec 15, 2014 at 1:49 PM ]
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Originally posted by Jakemall:
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
I have a feeling that Baalke doesn't want Harbaugh and that is what this is all about. This started before this season.

Ok... Why?

I am not Privy to why, but there were already indications last season that the two didn't get along, if you remember.

We all see that, but do you have a hypothesis regarding the tension?

My hypothesis is that Baalke wanted Harbaugh to send Roman packing the minute Dahl was signed and he learned the depth of the playcalling / offensive issues from the horses mouth.

Maybe you have a different theory.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Just a theoretical, but let's say Harbaugh refuses to can Roman, but is open to demoting him. Would you guys be cool with that? Maybe have a similar setup like the Cowboys do (Linehan is the passing game OC, Callahan the running game OC).

Roman would be the run game OC, and we bring in someone else to specialize and revamp the passing offense. Thoughts?

This is assuming Roman is a robot and has absolutely no feelings whatsoever right? If so, then yes I'd be open to demoting him to offensive waterboy!

lol. Honestly, Roman seems like a yes-man to me. He'd take it and love it. His NFL career is tied to Harbaugh.

Going back to the Cowboys, they did exactly that with Callahan who is waaaaaay more qualified and credible than Roman. He went from the OC to run-game coordinator, they brought in Linehan to coordinate the passing offense and they greatly improved. Callahan probably didn't like it, but you can't argue with the results.

I think we could pull off a similar move. It's been well documented that Roman is an offensive line/ run game guy, and he has some ability to draw up creative run designs. Let him concentrate on that.

Real good call on what the Cowboys did w/Callahan.

BUT as far as the rest of the hypothetical keeping JH & demoting Roman - IMO, that's just pissin' in the wind and it's time to move on.
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Real good call on what the Cowboys did w/Callahan.

BUT as far as the rest of the hypothetical keeping JH & demoting Roman - IMO, that's just pissin' in the wind and it's time to move on.

Yeah, in all likelihood you're right. I still have a small sliver of hope Harbaugh is retained and we fix the offense for next year, but I'm well prepared for what is likely to be a sad breakup.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Yeah, in all likelihood you're right. I still have a small sliver of hope Harbaugh is retained and we fix the offense for next year, but I'm well prepared for what is likely to be a sad breakup.

In order for Harbaugh to fix this offense he first has to be able to admit that his philosophy is not working. Won't happen. No way.
If he won't fix it he has to go. I don't know about you guys but personally I can't take another year of this sh**.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Dec 15, 2014 at 6:55 PM ]
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
In order for Harbaugh to fix this offense he first has to be able to admit that his philosophy is not working. Won't happen. No way.
If he won't fix it he has to go. Personally I can't take another year of this sh**.

Sadly, I agree. Stubborn to a fault.
I would love to see Harbaugh return, and then I would love to see the look on Deion's face.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by maximusdecimus:
In order for Harbaugh to fix this offense he first has to be able to admit that his philosophy is not working. Won't happen. No way.
If he won't fix it he has to go. Personally I can't take another year of this sh**.

Sadly, I agree. Stubborn to a fault.

if you chart the offensive performance since 2012 it's basically an unchanging constant slope down. we are pretty close to worst in the league now. harbs has not been able to do anything to make it better. thats just not very good coaching. that's not professional grade.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Just a theoretical, but let's say Harbaugh refuses to can Roman, but is open to demoting him. Would you guys be cool with that? Maybe have a similar setup like the Cowboys do (Linehan is the passing game OC, Callahan the running game OC).

Roman would be the run game OC, and we bring in someone else to specialize and revamp the passing offense. Thoughts?

No. It's like being in a serious relationship and then breaking up and trying to be friends. It just doesn't work. EspecI ally that first time she tells you she's going on a date
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
if you chart the offensive performance since 2012 it's basically an unchanging constant slope down. we are pretty close to worst in the league now. harbs has not been able to do anything to make it better. thats just not very good coaching. that's not professional grade.

Thats why it's so maddening to to see the seahawks change their strategy midseason. The hawks were on the same path we were. It wasn't working and they changed it up. Now they might be the favorites to at least get back to the super bowl. Why couldn't Harbaugh have swallowed his pride and done what was best for the team? He should have stopped the pocket passer experiment and just told Kap to go out and take control. Do what your comfortable doing. We got your back and we will tailor our offense to what you do best. Thats what a great coach would have done.
[ Edited by maximusdecimus on Dec 15, 2014 at 7:25 PM ]
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