Oakland Raiders coaches Film analysis

Originally posted by thl408:
1st & Goal

49ers: Spider 2 Y Banana is what Miller (flat) + VD (high) + Boldin (low) are running - using playaction to help get the Flat route open. Crabs + Boldin make the Mesh concept. The two route combinations are combined together on this play.
OAK: cover1


Orange, who I think has Miller in man coverage, bites on the playfake


Kap targets Miller who is wide open from the playfake and orange getting caught napping.


Touchdown

There it is...we actually ran it off arm side. Usually Spider is ran strong handed side, that is a nice little wrinkle. Also adding in the mesh element was a nice addition, had by an act of god the back been covered Kap could have pulled it down and it looks like crabs was breaking free.

OAK would immediately answer with their own TD drive. This is the biggest pass play from that drive.

2Q 3rd & 9
OAK: I think the route combo to Carr's left is a high-low with the outside WR (Cully's WR) acting as a clearing route.
49ers: cover 1 robber


DJohnson (DJ) starts with a slight cushion and will immediately take outside leverage on his WR. DJ knows he has help to the inside with Bethea (deep safety). Aldon and Lynch are both stunting on this play as they seen looping inside.


At this point, DJ needs to get into a trail position and get behind the WR since he has Bethea over the top. So DJ's correct positioning should be outside leverage, in a trail position - this would maximize the help that Bethea is offering to DJ.


Because DJ does not get into a trial position, the WR cuts to the outside, underneath DJ.


DJ is turned around and there is separation. Had DJ been in a trail position, the WR would run smack dab into DJ as the WR cut outwards on the route. Carr has a clean pocket and targets the yellow route.


+20 yards.

The 49ers would answer the OAK TD drive with a drive that resulted in a FG make that was nullified by a holding call on the FG try. Benefiting from 2 defensive penalties to get across midfield, the 49ers missed on a chance for a big play here. They would end up settling for the FG on this set of downs.

One of the things I was curious about watching this game was the dropbacks in which Kap had time, but didn't pull the trigger. I wanted to know if no one was open or if Kap was gun shy. Here's a play where I think Kap was a bit gun shy.

2Q 2nd & 6

49ers: Smash concept with a rollout right
OAK: cover3


After playaction, Kap rolls right. Crabs is about to Curl his route. The CB on Crabs (Harden) is giving a 3 yard cushion but is looking at Kap. If Kap wants to target Crabs, he'll have to locate the ball correctly to the outside and allow Crabs to use his body as a shield. The playside curl/flat defender lets Boldin cleanly run past him. The Smash concept is about to vertically stretch Hayden.


Kap starts a windup. Not sure who he was thinking about targeting, but if he puts it on the yellow dot, Crabs has a chance. If Kap puts it on the red dot, Boldin has a chance. Kap double clutches and doesn't pull the trigger.


With the LB running at Kap, Kap has to now evade and is no longer in a position to throw. Kap eventually continues to roll right and will target Boldin in the end zone.


It was a hell of a throw and Boldin kinda almost got both feet in bounds.


Incomplete


On 3rd & 6, the 49ers would commit a delay of game penalty.
3rd & 11 resulted in a +7 yard catch.
FG good is negated by Holding penalty pushing them out of FG range.

Originally posted by Jd925:

Originally posted by MC9BEAT:
I have been wondering what the players think of all of this. Every game they sit in the film room and break down each play over and over. What does the team think when play after play they see Kap making the wrong reads? What do they think when they wonder about the play calling? How do the defensive players feel when they see the offense just messing up simple concepts? Has the team lost confidence in Kap. They see all these plays broken down in film room. It has to be disheartening especially when it's his 4th year and things are regressing.

You would think they either lost confidence in Kap or they lost confidence in the ability of the coaches to put him in an offense that he could succeed in.

An offense that can't function and relies on the occasional great athletic play to get anything done is no offense at all.

What concepts are you talking about? What reads and progressions is every talking about out... I've yet to see consistent attempts at multiple reads and progressions since Alex Smith in 2011... so what makes you think it's even in the offense? I'll have to go back to the Alex Smith tapes, but I remember him being a 'one-read' QB too... but I've changed my perception of A. Smith after figuring out what HaRoman is all about.

Wow that is unbelievable. We have the breakdown right here in our face and you still call out Harbaugh and Roman. U-n-b-e-l-i-e-v-a-b-l-e
They simplified the offense (more so than before, and against the RAIDERS....FOR kap), then they start the game with an easy pass to the fullback for positive yards on first down. Kap stares down the fullback (wide open), turns around runs across the field dragging the saftey who was clearly on the other side of the field with him, releases with horrific form, and overthrows his blanketed receiver by 5 yards.

But......it's on "HaRoman"

Sometimes I think people are here just for the sake of arguing and don't want to see what they see.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by thl408:
1st & Goal

49ers: Spider 2 Y Banana is what Miller (flat) VD (high) Boldin (low) are running - using playaction to help get the Flat route open. Crabs Boldin make the Mesh concept. The two route combinations are combined together on this play.
OAK: cover1

Orange, who I think has Miller in man coverage, bites on the playfake

Kap targets Miller who is wide open from the playfake and orange getting caught napping.

Touchdown

There it is...we actually ran it off arm side. Usually Spider is ran strong handed side, that is a nice little wrinkle. Also adding in the mesh element was a nice addition, had by an act of god the back been covered Kap could have pulled it down and it looks like crabs was breaking free.

Another one read by design.

Niners816 - Crabs would never be an option.. BTW look at Vernon..he's making a block on the route (illegally)...he never intends on being an option either... but tries to make a buncha blocks because he knows Miller is the primary read who is likely to be heading to the pylons.

Originally posted by thl408:
The 49ers would answer the OAK TD drive with a drive that resulted in a FG make that was nullified by a holding call on the FG try. Benefiting from 2 defensive penalties to get across midfield, the 49ers missed on a chance for a big play here. They would end up settling for the FG on this set of downs.

One of the things I was curious about watching this game was the dropbacks in which Kap had time, but didn't pull the trigger. I wanted to know if no one was open or if Kap was gun shy. Here's a play where I think Kap was a bit gun shy.

2Q 2nd & 6

49ers: Smash concept with a rollout right
OAK: cover3


After playaction, Kap rolls right. Crabs is about to Curl his route. The CB on Crabs (Harden) is giving a 3 yard cushion but is looking at Kap. If Kap wants to target Crabs, he'll have to locate the ball correctly to the outside and allow Crabs to use his body as a shield. The playside curl/flat defender lets Boldin cleanly run past him. The Smash concept is about to vertically stretch Hayden.


Kap starts a windup. Not sure who he was thinking about targeting, but if he puts it on the yellow dot, Crabs has a chance. If Kap puts it on the red dot, Boldin has a chance. Kap double clutches and doesn't pull the trigger.


With the LB running at Kap, Kap has to now evade and is no longer in a position to throw. Kap eventually continues to roll right and will target Boldin in the end zone.


It was a hell of a throw and Boldin kinda almost got both feet in bounds.


Incomplete


On 3rd & 6, the 49ers would commit a delay of game penalty.
3rd & 11 resulted in a +7 yard catch.
FG good is negated by Holding penalty pushing them out of FG range.

Another one read by design.

Primary was Boldin on the corner route, but LB blitzed and so Kap had to roll all the way out.. never intended to throw to Crabs.. again no post snap reads.. Just find a way to hit the primary. Good toss though.

Playing defense for the 49ers takes smarts and when one defender blows an assignment, it can result in blown coverage. Communication during the play is critical to the 49ers as they pass coverage from one to another.

2Q 3rd & 6

OAK: Curl-Flat concept to Carr's right. This route combination in the middle of the field looks to target Wilhoite's area. If he sags back to cover orange, then the drag route has a chance. If he let's orange go by to cover the drag, then orange is open behind the LB level.
49ers: Looks like some sort of Quarters coverage. Fangio and his split coverages.


As the drag route cuts across Dahl's face (#43), he needs to make the 'Under!' call to let Wilhoite know that the drag route is coming. Dahl is not supposed to match the drag. Dahl will match the drag route.


This leaves a big passing lane to the Curl in the middle of the field as Dahl and Wilhoite are in the same area of the field - not good. Carr is mid windup targeting the Curl (orange). Had Dahl passed the drag over to Wilhoite, Dahl stays in position and has a chance to block the passing lane to the Curl.


+18 yards


After the play, Wilhoite has a few words for Dahl as he points out what should have happened. When teammates don't communicate, pattern matching goes bad.


OAK would eventually punt on this drive.

Originally posted by Jd925:

I think this is another one read.

Primary was Boldin on the corner route, but LB blitzed and so Kap had to roll all the way out.. never intended to throw to Crabs.. again no post snap reads.. Just find a way to hit the primary. Good toss though.

Smash is not a one read play/concept. its a vertical stretch plays that's either the curl or the Corner. You are playing off the db guarding the curl. If he targets the curl you take the corner, he drifts toward the corner route you take the curl.

Smash is a good cover 2 killer, however this play was cover 3, when the slot guy let boldin run free it green lighted him.

Originally posted by Jd925:

Another one read.

Niners816 - Crabs would never be an option.. BTW look at Vernon..he's making a block on the route (illegally)...he never intends on being an option either... but tries to make a buncha blocks because he knows Miller is the primary read who is likely to be heading to the pylons.

We are seeing something different then. Had the play been aborted like kap did on the game opener and scrambled backside crabs would have been wide open running away from his defender. That what I said, howeve this is spider and the FB is always open.

As for vd it looks like he get tied up with his defender, but he still tries to run the corner and breaks away from the db. He starts blocking after running the corner to help miller get to the endZone.

Originally posted by Niners816:

Originally posted by Jd925:
I think this is another one read.

Primary was Boldin on the corner route, but LB blitzed and so Kap had to roll all the way out.. never intended to throw to Crabs.. again no post snap reads.. Just find a way to hit the primary. Good toss though.

Smash is not a one read play/concept. its a vertical stretch plays that's either the curl or the Corner. You are playing off the db guarding the curl. If he targets the curl you take the corner, he drifts toward the corner route you take the curl.

My contention is the play is a pre-snap zone read to hit a corner route on a single high safety. There are no post-snap reads.
He get's a post-snap blitz and Kap sticks with his primary read (as he's taught)... this one was unusual how he had to force his primary read.. but he still almost made a great play.

Note: I understand the concept, and the route designs could work with progressions, but my contention is he's taught to make a read pre-snap and stick with it... all these plays are like that.. just because there are routes run, doesn't mean any of them are real options or that there are progressions.. they're only route combos such that decoys try to draw defenders ... other than that the primary read is gonna get it...

Originally posted by Jd925:

My contention is the play is a pre-snap zone read to hit a corner route on a single high safety. There are no post-snap reads.
He get's a post-snap blitz and Kap sticks with his primary read (as he's taught)... this one was unusual how he had to force his primary read.. but he still almost made a great play.

Note: I understand the concept, and the route designs could work with progressions, but my contention is he's taught to make a read pre-snap and stick with it... all these plays are like that.. just because there are routes run, doesn't mean any of them are real options or that there are progressions.. they're only route combos such that decoys try to draw defenders ... other than that the primary read is gonna get it...

But we've seen him hit the curls on this concept, that is a post snap read because you play off of what the CB is doing. On this particular play the curl was red lighted not only by the corner on the curl but also by the slot guy dropping off, he dropped off because we do throw the curl in smash concepts. Kap knew he had boldin on the safety, he hit a td on a playike this vs Washington. It was a smash with miller split out and boldin on a saftey. However I think that play was man coverage.

The OAK punt would pin the 49ers inside their own 5 yard line.

1st & 10
Gore Inside zone for +3 yards

2nd & 7
49ers: Spot concept to Kap's right with a backside In route (VD)
OAK: cover3. #24 is Woodson who is the weakside hook/curl defender (zone in the middle of the field, I forgot to highlight him).


After a playaction that does not fool the strongside curl/flat defender (defender covering Miller), Kap partially rolls right. Woodson leaves his zone to roll coverage to the strongside.


Of the Spot concept, Miller is the only one open and it's only for a very minimal gain, if that. Kap properly red lights all three routes in the Spot concept. Because Woodson (#24) has rolled coverage and is essentially double covering Boldin's Curl, there is a passing lane to VD's In route.


Kap has time in the pocket that is about to end via a bullrush by a LB that got MMartin backpeddling (mentioned by jonnydel in the OP). Kap should be looking to VD on the backside by now.


With the time that Kap has remaining of his pocket, Kap actually starts his windup. Blue are the deep zones. Orange is the underneath zones with Woodson in purple because he has left his assigned zone as the weakside hook-curl defender. Notice the passing lane to VD.


Same moment as pic above. From this angle, it looks like Kap never moved off of the Curl (Boldin). If Kap is looking at VD, which I don't think he is based off the direction of his helmet, then I don't know why he didn't pull the trigger to VD. If Kap is pump faking to Boldin, then that's a waste of time that should have been spent targeting VD.


Sacked for -3. Maybe I'm being too harsh on Kap here, but when there is one defender covering Miller, and 2 defenders covering Boldin, where does Kap think that 2nd defender covering Boldin came from? Using that logic, VD's In route is available.

so, on the very first play, we busted a zone coverage with a vertical stretch and Kap hasn't recognized it?

F****ing Kap had receivers wide open ALL DAY..

Originally posted by tondiman:
F****ing Kap had receivers wide open ALL DAY..

This!