St. Louis Rams week 9 coaches film analysis

Hey thl408,

At the end of the half, I think you said Kap had already been sacked 6 times??? Did you notice in the second half any adjustments made by the offense to help protect Kap? More TE's or shorter routes, etc...

Also, this is a soapbox of mine. What have you notice from Crabtree? Everyone loves to bash him, but I feel like from your breakdowns, he was open for some Td's or big plays. Seems like he is doing what is asked of him. Offensive line is playing poorly right now and i think that gives Kap no time to hit the wr's but what do you see in effort, routes, blocking, etc...

Thanks for the hard work!

Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Is Cohn's analysis correct here?

Or did we just not run enough because the Rams loaded the box and dared us to run?

Watching the game live, I was hoping the 49ers came out in the second half looking to establish the run game in order to slow down the STL pass rush and also to make playaction effective. The 49ers came out and ran the ball on the first play of the 2nd half - holding Boone. Nothing kills a run game more than sacks and penalties which puts the offense in long downs and distances. We know about the sacks (6 in the first half), but some of the penalties were drive killers as well.

On the second drive of the 2nd half, the 49ers kind of got things going with the run game. They ran it on 3 consecutive plays (Gore +3, Gore +3, Hyde +13). Then on 1st & 10, sack #7 happened to set up 2nd and 19. Then they ran the ball (I hated that call)! Point is, the sack killed the run game, even though they tried to run it. I don't think the 49ers didn't run because they couldn't or didn't choose to, but it was the sacks that made them go away from the run game.

We can make a case that after sack #3 (for example) of the first half, it was time to try and establish the run game because that STL pass rush needed to be slowed down. I saw the 49ers run a draw play where Boone couldn't sustain his block. I saw MMartin get pushed into the backfield numerous times throughout the game. So the run game had its moments of success and failure. The thing is this season, the 49ers believe they have a good option now in going to the passing game so it seems they are quicker to abandon the run game when it isn't clicking. In year's past they stuck with it even if they were getting below 4.0 per carry. Remember when we would all pound our heads into the wall asking, "why do they keep running into 8 man fronts?!". Now many of us are saying, "why not just stick with the run game?" Be careful what we ask for. Cover 3, by design, is an 8 man front.

Deep down, Jim knows that he's done w/all the BS in SF.... he's done w/Baalke, taking players and getting rid of players against Harbaugh's wishes.. adding the useless Mangini on the coaching staff, Jim's plan is to make this team look like it has regressed and have a boring offense, enough to compete, but not enuff to win and dominate...

Isn't this a Forumula for Termination???

Jim knows he made the team great again, and was super offended when the young York held out on the contract talk until after the season..

Now, Jim's eyeing OAKLAND, MIAMI, JETS, ATLANTA, and MICHIGAN!!

Originally posted by Phil:
Kap first quarter endzone pass to Crabtree that was 10 feet off. Kap, at the end of the second quarter fumbles in the Rams territory. Rams score an easy TD off Borlands bad coverage. Various less severe third quarter mistakes. Kap, fourth quarter drive to Gore, bad pass into tight double coverage. Kap, on the very next play bad pass to Crabtree. We went 3 and out. Kap, last drive at the goal line bad pass to Crabtree. Kap, at the goal line fumble. These are the game changing plays that stick out in my mind. And the sacks of course. But the plays that just killed it came from the QB position as well. Balls thrown high, low, wide.... Almost 2 ints. One of them a close pick 6. No adjustments to the rush. Boldin sitting on the sideline on the last drive. No rush with Gore who holds the all time record for rushing yards against the Rams, who's run D isn't that great this year. Stevie Johnson and Lloyd sitting on the sideline in the first half. Not playing Johnson or running Gore is inexcusable. Not running Gore at least once at the goal line is inexcusable. . . . . . Redzone issues. Kap shuts down with a short field. Even a bad punt and FG. Borland good against the run, not so much in pass coverage. Roman is not an NFL caliber play caller. And even players complaining about offensive schemes. The biggest mistakes still, IMO, fall on Kap. There's almost no need for film analysis. 21 points in the game are tied to Kaps mistakes. At clutch moments or in the redzone. If he makes that first pass to Crabtree in the first quarter we win. If he doesn't fumble at the end of the second quarter Rams don't score. If he makes good throws to Gore and Crabtree mid 4th we extend the drive and probably get a FG. If he makes an easy throw to Crabtree at the goal line final drive we win. If he doesn't fumble at the goal line we win. No need for film. The online, Roman and Kap reverted to PopWarner. Season over. No need to study the film.

lmao


Yeah, haters don't need to see the film when all they're going to do is hate anyway.

Hey JonnyDel, I would like to know your honest opinion about Kaep. I don't trust Greg Cossel, I think he has an agenda.

Seeing a few of those plays, Kap definitely could have saved himself a few of those sacks by throwing in anticipation. I've seen him make those throws in the past, but I think he is still trying to figure out when and where to take those chances. He has been burned a few times this season on a few of his anticipation throws.

I read a post in a different thread somewhere that we are putting him in the shotgun too often, and it is causing him to keep his eyes down at the snap. He has to watch the ball coming from center before getting his head up and seeing the defense. I think this is where Roman and Harbaugh are hurting his development. Being under center means that his head is up and looking at the defense, and not having to worry about catching the snap. I would really love to see him under center more often to give the look of a run, and that would set up a ton of play action passes. He seems to really excel there. What is odd is that I see Andrew Luck under center a ton in Indianapolis. His offense looks a lot more like the old Stanford offense than ours does.

Originally posted by verb1der:

Hey JonnyDel, I would like to know your honest opinion about Kaep. I don't trust Greg Cossel, I think he has an agenda.

All these guys waiver so much in regards to kap. You got guys like jaws saying he can be best ever. Gruden usually has nice stuff to say about him. If heard Cossell go both ways when talking about kap. I still think the most damning thing said about him was when mayock in the ram game last yr calling him a "one-read" guy. That is simply not true. Now, there are times he locks on to WRs but that can be said for a lot of young qbs.

All I know is that kap produces at a level that very good qb do in the nfl. The great thing is he if far from a finished product. It just takes time.

Originally posted by verb1der:

Hey JonnyDel, I would like to know your honest opinion about Kaep. I don't trust Greg Cossel, I think he has an agenda.

All these guys waiver so much in regards to kap. You got guys like jaws saying he can be best ever. Gruden usually has nice stuff to say about him. If heard Cossell go both ways when talking about kap. I still think the most damning thing said about him was when mayock in the ram game last yr calling him a "one-read" guy. That is simply not true. Now, there are times he locks on to WRs but that can be said for a lot of young qbs.

All I know is that kap produces at a level that very good qb do in the nfl. The great thing is he if far from a finished product. It just takes time.

Cossel is the best guy out there in terms of talking qb's. He's praised Kap numerous times. Kap's play is the reason why guys are wavering. He's so up and down. One week he looks great the next week he looks average, then he looks below average, then comes back and looks elite.

Originally posted by TheRatMan13:
Seeing a few of those plays, Kap definitely could have saved himself a few of those sacks by throwing in anticipation. I've seen him make those throws in the past, but I think he is still trying to figure out when and where to take those chances. He has been burned a few times this season on a few of his anticipation throws.

I read a post in a different thread somewhere that we are putting him in the shotgun too often, and it is causing him to keep his eyes down at the snap. He has to watch the ball coming from center before getting his head up and seeing the defense. I think this is where Roman and Harbaugh are hurting his development. Being under center means that his head is up and looking at the defense, and not having to worry about catching the snap. I would really love to see him under center more often to give the look of a run, and that would set up a ton of play action passes. He seems to really excel there. What is odd is that I see Andrew Luck under center a ton in Indianapolis. His offense looks a lot more like the old Stanford offense than ours does.

That's not odd Luck is just that good. His offense looks like Stanford's b/c Luck was the offense at Stanford. Plus Kap didn't really play under center in college and isn't used to dropping back under center. Alex used to have the same problem.. I think he plays much better under center now but Smith struggled for a few years. and the staff may feel as though they are coaching to his strengths while he's still developing that other part of the game. I mean Rogers, Manning, Brady, and Brees play outta shotgun the majority of the time and they have no issues seeing the field.

Here is an interesting sack pattern:

#1 1st and 10 @ 2.0 seconds (Boone/Davis)
#2 3rd and 10 @ 2.5 (Staley/Gore)
#3 2nd and 6 @ 2.0 (Davis)
#4 3rd and 3 @ 3.0 but pressure at 2.0 (CK)
#5 2nd and 1 @ 3.0 (Staley)
#6 1st and 10 @ 4.0 but pressure at 2.0 (Boone/Martin)
#7 1st and 10 @ 3.0 but pressure at 2.0 (Martin)
#8 2nd and 11 @ 4.0 but no receiving options but avoids the sack (Design)

At what point would YOU switch up the game plan here and start running wham blocks, going max protect, delayed chip-releases by the backs, quick-strike passes, using the TE's to the vacated areas of the blitzing LB's, middle screens, designed delayed middle QB runs, etc.?

Originally posted by BuZzB28:
They had already championship it. If they had problem then who care? They had all already championship period. Respect them whatever they do win or loss. It's not matter. Other qb are many bust and suck when they are nope championship. Look at Wilson got a championship when he is 2 years.. I learned about that new to me and keep gain to experience for me.

If you wanted to enjoys for playoff and failed for championship like Jeff Garcia. Garcia was really suck and bad his leader. Garcia looked like f**kin gave up for championship. He was damn lazy ass..

Kap was better much and fun at playoff but he was real failed for championship. And he is not smart quarterback and bad decisions to throw at.

I don't get your point. So you're only allowed to not play like a god every game if you won a Super Bowl?

Originally posted by NCommand:
Here is an interesting sack pattern:

#1 1st and 10 @ 2.0 seconds (Boone/Davis)
#2 3rd and 10 @ 2.5 (Staley/Gore)
#3 2nd and 6 @ 2.0 (Davis)
#4 3rd and 3 @ 3.0 but pressure at 2.0 (CK)
#5 2nd and 1 @ 3.0 (Staley)
#6 1st and 10 @ 4.0 but pressure at 2.0 (Boone/Martin)
#7 1st and 10 @ 3.0 but pressure at 2.0 (Martin)
#8 2nd and 11 @ 4.0 but no receiving options but avoids the sack (Design)

At what point would YOU switch up the game plan here and start running wham blocks, going max protect, delayed chip-releases by the backs, quick-strike passes, using the TE's to the vacated areas of the blitzing LB's, middle screens, designed delayed middle QB runs, etc.?

I was screaming for this on Sunday. I knew Roman wouldn't have the acumen to consistently throw short passes or screens because he's too much of an amateur to figure out how to do it, but I at least thought he'd go max protect and chip pass rushers. Nope..let's just keep on doing the same thing and hope something changes on its own.

Originally posted by BuZzB28:
Yes I can see that. Sign... Kap need practice his eyes to read on traffic then find it at open it. Go practice with your eyes must used on traffic. .

As was said already, you try doing that after being harassed after every snap.

At the request of jonnydel, here is a missed opportunity to score a TD in the red zone.

jonnydel wrote (via PM):
I wish I had time to break it down, but I don't. On the FG drive of the game, 3rd and 10, Kap goes for the streak to Crabtree and it's a ball that was both uncatchable and a bad decision. The Rams were in a cover 2 zone and the safety was over the top the whole time. There wasn't any route on that side of the field to make the safety not drive on the route. On the other side though, Lloyd runs a streak with Davis running a deep crossing route. Right when Kap starts to throw the ball, the safety on the backside was jumping Davis crossing route, leaving Lloyd wide open in the endzone - might wanna highlight that.

I see it slightly different in that I thought someone else was open. You decide.

1Q First drive of the game.
3rd & 10
49ers: 4 Verticals concept
STL: Tampa2
This is a good playcall versus this coverage. With just 3 deep defenders, one of which is a MLB (blue), one of the 4 vertical routes has a chance to be open.


Kap completes his dropback and starts his windup - targeting Crabs along the right sideline. Notice the position of the orange deep safety and how he is in good position to defend Crabs. The MLB (blue) has his hips turned the wrong direction if he is to defend VD, which he should be. VD breaks to the post.


The ball just left Kap's hand. With the orange deep safety playing wide (close to the sideline), the throw to Crabs is not the correct throw and is rather risky.


If the throw to Crabs was accurate (not overthrown) it may have been picked off by the deep safety. At the very least, batted away.