We got robbed tonight, and here is why.

Originally posted by linkboy:
Because it's not a completed catch until the receiver fully completes the process of the catch, which Crabtree hasn't done at this point in time.

The key is that he's going to the ground of his own accord without any assistance from the defender.

The other issue is that his momentum carries him out of the endzone.

It's no different then if a player jumps from inside the endzone, catches the ball in the air over the endzone, but lands at the one yard line.

Momentum doesnt mean s**t. If he has control of the ball inside the endzone with 2 fee or one knee down, its a TD. He can run out of the endzone and throw the ball across the field if he wants....some players even do in celebration.

Jumping and landing at the one yard line is totally different because then that means he would have no feet/knee down with control of the ball inside the endzone. in this case he obviously did.

Originally posted by LanceQ:

Originally posted by Phil:

Originally posted by LanceQ:

Originally posted by Hopper:
+1 This game is on Harbaugh and Roman.

Well these bonehead losses on Harbaugh and Roman are adding up. We lost to YET another depleted team. The Bears and now the Rams. The Cards was a bad loss too. We have not looked good so far this season.

Dude, Kap lost us that Bears game and had his fingerprints all over this loss. And here's where you deny it and call me stupid and a Kap hater and point out the obvious that the O-line didn't play well whilst completely ignoring Kaepernicks s**tty play. And why do I have to continually point out that Kaepernick is a part of the reason why our offense isnt working? Because people continually deny it. Over and over and over, which make's it REAL easy to call me a "Kap hater".

Originally posted by Phil:
Dude, Kap lost us that Bears game and had his fingerprints all over this loss. And here's where you deny it and call me stupid and a Kap hater and point out the obvious that the O-line didn't play well whilst completely ignoring Kaepernicks s**tty play. And why do I have to continually point out that Kaepernick is a part of the reason why our offense isnt working? Because people continually deny it. Over and over and over, which make's it REAL easy to call me a "Kap hater".

Hey Phil, no you're not a Kap hater, honestly you are speaking some truth here. I'm starting to think that Kap is becoming a turnover machine. Not quite as bad as JT O'sullivan (remember that guy?) I've been pulling for Kap, and I still do, but I can't deny his performance on the field has been bad. At the same time though, I think coaching has been very poor too.

Cant be any worse than Tim Rattay. He used to drive us to the redone, then throw a game ending pick. That was gut wrenching back in the days.

No we did not. We scored 10 points all game long. That SUCKS. You got to do better than that. You can't futz around all game long for 4 quarters and hope for something at the very end of the game on the goal line. It should not have been that close vs. the Rams at home.

Originally posted by solidg2000:

Originally posted by linkboy:

On the Crabtree play, you need to complete the process of the catch for it to stand, anyone remember the Calvin Johnson rule.

At that point, Michael's momentum is bringing him out of the endzone and he doesn't fully complete the catch until he's out of endzone.

What the refs, in typical jerome booger fashion, screwed up was the time. They ruled him out of bounds, but kept the clock as if he stayed in.

Your wrong, his momentum doesn't mean s**t. On TDs, the ball just has to break the plain. Once it does that it's a TD, as long as you maintain possession throughout the catch. Which they say he did.

But yes idk why they ruled him out of bounds and left the clock running

And what you're forgetting is that he didn't fully complete the catch until he was outside of the end zone.

Watch the play, he never had possession of the ball in the end zone. Static pictures like this are the worst because they don't give you the full story. You need video.

He had full control of the ball a

Originally posted by linkboy:
And what you're forgetting is that he didn't fully complete the catch until he was outside of the end zone.

Watch the play, he never had possession of the ball in the end zone. Static pictures like this are the worst because they don't give you the full story. You need video.

nd never bobbled it. he had control of it in this picture and the ball remained in this spot of his arm through the whole catch

I agree with all points but a still frame at a slight angle doesn't prove anything. Anybody have a video or gif?

Originally posted by Phil:

Originally posted by LanceQ:

Originally posted by susweel:
That's what happens when you leave in the officials hand. Leave no doubt and get the s**t. We got what we deserved

YEP!!!! As it was mentioned a few weeks back. We have no killer instinct. For years we have played for Field goals, barely getting the snap before the play clock expires ( Someone has to explain that one to me, I just don't understand ). We are performing very poorly this season. Even the games we won weren't all that impressive.

I'm tiered of it. Too much talent on this offense and too many guys getting paid for them to play this bad. And again they hold Stevie out till the second half, and didn't even really utilize Lloyd. And Crabtree is dropping passes, and Kap is making bad throws, almost 2 ints and underthrows/overthrows when he had time, and the O-line is porous. And VD is non existent. And Roman is calling suspect plays in the redzone. Our season is toast, and I thought if this would happen that it would have been on the defense early in the season whilst everyone was injured but Noooo, the offense had to s**t the bed.

What do you think will happen when we dont make the playoffs? Jim may be in trouble. Roman should definitely go. We may need to draft both o-line and a back-up QB early. If we can hold onto this defense and hold onto a couple good offensive players we can fix this for next season. I'd think about trading Davis and Crabtree. I'd bring in a young QB and a vet to light a fire under Kaps ass. I'd dump Roman and draft an O-lineman and bring in any FA OL we can get. Just thold onto Vic and this D.

Originally posted by kstolai:

Originally posted by Phil:

Originally posted by LanceQ:

Originally posted by Hopper:
+1 This game is on Harbaugh and Roman.

Well these bonehead losses on Harbaugh and Roman are adding up. We lost to YET another depleted team. The Bears and now the Rams. The Cards was a bad loss too. We have not looked good so far this season.

Dude, Kap lost us that Bears game and had his fingerprints all over this loss. And here's where you deny it and call me stupid and a Kap hater and point out the obvious that the O-line didn't play well whilst completely ignoring Kaepernicks s**tty play. And why do I have to continually point out that Kaepernick is a part of the reason why our offense isnt working? Because people continually deny it. Over and over and over, which make's it REAL easy to call me a "Kap hater".

People still don't understand that just because u call out a player on the team don't make you a team guy. What u should be saying if you protect one guy constantly through all the BS then your about one guy and not the team. All these blind kap supporters lose sight of the team for kap

Yes they do. I've critisized Kap, Ward the o-line, Roman and Crabtree. They have all underachieved. The o-line is obvious. It's obvious. Kaepernick on the other hand is screwing the pooch and Jim/Roman/O-line get all the blame. It's absurd. There were so many plays this game where Kap had time and messed up. So many plays where he could have adjusted to pressure or thrown the ball away, and NOT fumbled, or throw late and fumble or overthrow Crabtree or under throw Crabtree or throw into tight double coverage on Gore or almost throw 2 ints, one a close pick 6, or force it into Crabtree with the game on the line, AGAIN, or burn a TO in the Redzone in the first Q when Stevie Jonson was uncovered in the slot or miss guys wide open downfioeld when he had time to throw.

Kap had a bad game atop of the s**tty o-line play but this will be ignored and excused and I'll be called all sorts of names and be instigated with rude comments while the mods ignore that too. Pathetic, stupid, ignorant, a hater, selfish, a troll, not a fan...they'll say I'm crapping on the team. No. I'm pointing out Kaepernicjk is part of the reason our offense isn't working. His pocket play is lacking. Reading the D is lacking. Adjustment at the line is lacking. Ball control. Accuracy in big moments. I never see him looking at film on the sidelines. He was laughing having a good time on the sidelines!!

Originally posted by THEB:

He had full control of the ball a

Originally posted by linkboy:

And what you're forgetting is that he didn't fully complete the catch until he was outside of the end zone.

Watch the play, he never had possession of the ball in the end zone. Static pictures like this are the worst because they don't give you the full story. You need video.

nd never bobbled it. he had control of it in this picture and the ball remained in this spot of his arm through the whole catch

Actually, he didn't. The ball moved as he was falling forward and after he was outside of the end zone

Originally posted by THEB:
He had full control of the ball a

Originally posted by linkboy:
And what you're forgetting is that he didn't fully complete the catch until he was outside of the end zone.

Watch the play, he never had possession of the ball in the end zone. Static pictures like this are the worst because they don't give you the full story. You need video.

nd never bobbled it. he had control of it in this picture and the ball remained in this spot of his arm through the whole catch

He fumbled.

Besides, if Colin throws the ball better, it's an easy td

Originally posted by linkboy:

Originally posted by THEB:

He had full control of the ball a

Originally posted by linkboy:

And what you're forgetting is that he didn't fully complete the catch until he was outside of the end zone.

Watch the play, he never had possession of the ball in the end zone. Static pictures like this are the worst because they don't give you the full story. You need video.

nd never bobbled it. he had control of it in this picture and the ball remained in this spot of his arm through the whole catch

Actually, he didn't. The ball moved as he was falling forward and after he was outside of the end zone

That is true... It did move enough to hit the ground.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
No we did not. We scored 10 points all game long. That SUCKS. You got to do better than that. You can't futz around all game long for 4 quarters and hope for something at the very end of the game on the goal line. It should not have been that close vs. the Rams at home.

agreed.

Originally posted by Phil:
He fumbled.

im talking about thecrabtree td image in the OP, not the kaepernick dive.

Originally posted by linkboy:
Besides, if Colin throws the ball better, it's an easy td

This. Or Crabtree could have run a better route

Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
That is true... It did move enough to hit the ground.

it hit the ground because he rolled to that side, but it didnt MOVE when it hit the ground and thats what counts