What is your biggest concern after seeing Broncos game (preseason)?

Not worried about turnovers or redzone offense but the back up OL and WR depth is very worrying.

Originally posted by J49er:
First let me say Trent Baalke is a excellent talent evaluator from rounds 1-3 (minus aj jenkins). What worries me is Baalke's drafting of late round picks that deplete the depth on the team, which reared its ugly head last night. I'm not here to say he is a bad GM which would be ludicrous, but his weakness (if i may) is his use of mid-late draft picks.

It seems most of his picks past round 4 are complete reaches that have very little chance of making a long term replacements of existing players on the roster. Since he picks from a point of strength (One of the most talented rosters inherited)..contrary to popular belief 4-6th round picks are pretty valuable. (ie Boldin) (colt mccoy) etc..thus hitting on these picks are the backbone for long term success in the NFL. here's a look at what we have yielded.

Jason Slowey (6)
Nick Moody 6
Nate Byhnam (6)
Ronald Johnson (6)
Colin Jones (6)
Mike Pearson (7)
Joe Looney (4)
Trent Robinson

We're actually a very deep team. It's a good trend when your late round picks can't make the team. That indicates a strong roster, when late-round talent have a tough time cracking the 53. And if they do make it, they will have to fight their asses off to make the team again next year. They really have to be exceptional to stick around, not just qualify based on the fact they were drafted.

From 2003-2010 damn near all of our late-round picks stuck around. We lost a ton of games. Now we're winning, the team is loaded, and late-round picks can't stick on the roster. Not a coincidence to me.

Great call SofaKing.

OL depth definitely

Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Great call SofaKing.

Thanks, bud

There should be an option for nothing. It's way too early and there really wasn't much to see. Not sure how anyone could be critical of last nights game.

The WR actually looked really good. I agree we don't need a ton of WR because we run so many backs and tight ends.

I imagine that by the time the playoffs start our WR lineup will be Crabtree, Boldin, Manningham, Williams, Collie. That's pretty sick.

WR by far. Boobie Dixon looked really good running the ball, I hope he makes this team. Hes a good special teamer and can be a BEAST in short yardage situations.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by J49er:
First let me say Trent Baalke is a excellent talent evaluator from rounds 1-3 (minus aj jenkins). What worries me is Baalke's drafting of late round picks that deplete the depth on the team, which reared its ugly head last night. I'm not here to say he is a bad GM which would be ludicrous, but his weakness (if i may) is his use of mid-late draft picks.

It seems most of his picks past round 4 are complete reaches that have very little chance of making a long term replacements of existing players on the roster. Since he picks from a point of strength (One of the most talented rosters inherited)..contrary to popular belief 4-6th round picks are pretty valuable. (ie Boldin) (colt mccoy) etc..thus hitting on these picks are the backbone for long term success in the NFL. here's a look at what we have yielded.

Jason Slowey (6)
Nick Moody 6
Nate Byhnam (6)
Ronald Johnson (6)
Colin Jones (6)
Mike Pearson (7)
Joe Looney (4)
Trent Robinson

We're actually a very deep team. It's a good trend when your late round picks can't make the team. That indicates a strong roster, when late-round talent have a tough time cracking the 53. And if they do make it, they will have to fight their asses off to make the team again next year. They really have to be exceptional to stick around, not just qualify based on the fact they were drafted.

From 2003-2010 damn near all of our late-round picks stuck around. We lost a ton of games. Now we're winning, the team is loaded, and late-round picks can't stick on the roster. Not a coincidence to me.

Great point. So far the two I am really looking at to get it going is Looney and Jenkins. Jenkins will make the roster Looney I am not sure on and as a 4th round pick would be a disappointment to not even make the team in his second year.

Depth on O-line!

If Colt/Scott played behind the starting O-line, we would've got a better gauge on the back up QBs and WRs...

Originally posted by J49er:
First let me say Trent Baalke is a excellent talent evaluator from rounds 1-3 (minus aj jenkins). What worries me is Baalke's drafting of late round picks that deplete the depth on the team, which reared its ugly head last night. I'm not here to say he is a bad GM which would be ludicrous, but his weakness (if i may) is his use of mid-late draft picks.

It seems most of his picks past round 4 are complete reaches that have very little chance of making a long term replacements of existing players on the roster. Since he picks from a point of strength (One of the most talented rosters inherited)..contrary to popular belief 4-6th round picks are pretty valuable. (ie Boldin) (colt mccoy) etc..thus hitting on these picks are the backbone for long term success in the NFL. here's a look at what we have yielded.

Jason Slowey (6)
Nick Moody 6
Nate Byhnam (6)
Ronald Johnson (6)
Colin Jones (6)
Mike Pearson (7)
Joe Looney (4)
Trent Robinson

We also selected just off the top of my head in rounds 4 to 7 Kendall Hunter Daniel Kilgore and Bruce Miller. From this year's class I can foresee great things from Quinton Patton and Marcus Lattimore once they regain health and quite possibly Joe Looney too. We can't overlook the hits for the misses

Originally posted by dj43:
I don't think we can judge backup QB play based on last night. Here is why:

I will likely get flamed for this because I understand it is high heresy to criticize the great Jim Harbaugh, however, Harbaugh gave Tolzien and McCoy no chance last night. By playing both QBs behind the backup OL while Denver's first string defense was still on the field was just plain dumb. If, either of those two guys have to come into a regular season game, they will NOT be playing behind the backup OL. Consequently, it would have made a lot more sense, and given everyone a much better idea of how they could function, had they been able to play behind the 1st string guys.

Back up QB in this league is a HUGE deal. You have to have someone who can come in and win games, not just keep the ball from falling on the ground, if you are going to get into the playoffs. Therefore, extra time needs to be given to doing everything you can to make sure you have a guy who can do that. This is even more true for the 49ers this coming season than last. Last year everyone knew that Alex Smith could come in to relieve Kaepernick if he were injured. However, that is no longer the case. As important as it is to solve the WR issue, picking the right backup QB is even more important.

Last night, in terms of identifying which of the the two primary candidates is the better backup was a waste of time. Moreover, the fact McCoy suffered an injury while trying to play behind a bunch of guys who will not even make the roster was an inexcusable piece of dumb by Harbaugh. The fact Denver chose to keep their first string defense on the field as long as they did gave Harbaugh a great opportunity to get a much better feel for the most important personnel decision he will face this year, and he wasted the opportunity. Not good coaching.

i disagree. why do you ant to leave your all pro line in and risk an injury to one of them? how many snaps do you want to play them this preseason? will you want to risk kaep behind the backup OL in one of the next games to limit the OL snaps?

I am kind of astonished at the lack of interest we have in obtaining OT depth.
We draft a bunch of guards/centers: Looney, Kilgore, Slowey, and then we sign Adam Snyder, so where do we play him? You guessed it, guard.

We developed an incredibly talented UFA in Boone over the last few years. Boone, a tackle in college, was developing very well at the OT position. So where is he playing now? Do I really have to say it? Ok, I will. He's playing guard.

We take OT Person in the seventh round a few years ago (no longer on the team), and we took OT Bykowski in what round this year? You guessed it, seventh round.

We seem to place an extreme amount of importance in our guard position, but it's just "meh, whatever" when dealing with our offensive tackle depth. I don't EVER want to say "I told you so", but if something happens to one of our starting OT's, well, do I really have to say it?

Originally posted by BrianGO:
I am kind of astonished at the lack of interest we have in obtaining OT depth.
We draft a bunch of guards/centers: Looney, Kilgore, Slowey, and then we sign Adam Snyder, so where do we play him? You guessed it, guard.

We developed an incredibly talented UFA in Boone over the last few years. Boone, a tackle in college, was developing very well at the OT position. So where is he playing now? Do I really have to say it? Ok, I will. He's playing guard.

We take OT Person in the seventh round a few years ago (no longer on the team), and we took OT Bykowski in what round this year? You guessed it, seventh round.

We seem to place an extreme amount of importance in our guard position, but it's just "meh, whatever" when dealing with our offensive tackle depth. I don't EVER want to say "I told you so", but if something happens to one of our starting OT's, well, do I really have to say it?

i think boone was just a situation of him being too good to be a backup. and then looney and kilgore were to fight it out with boone and goodwin. i have no real problem with any of those. and i think boone swings out to tackle in the event of an injury, which is fine.

but i agree with you on the snyder signing, and the lack of an attempt to get a serviceable 4th OT. i do not want to see snyder anywhere near OT.

Originally posted by jdt84_2:

Originally posted by BrianGO:
I am kind of astonished at the lack of interest we have in obtaining OT depth.
We draft a bunch of guards/centers: Looney, Kilgore, Slowey, and then we sign Adam Snyder, so where do we play him? You guessed it, guard.

We developed an incredibly talented UFA in Boone over the last few years. Boone, a tackle in college, was developing very well at the OT position. So where is he playing now? Do I really have to say it? Ok, I will. He's playing guard.

We take OT Person in the seventh round a few years ago (no longer on the team), and we took OT Bykowski in what round this year? You guessed it, seventh round.

We seem to place an extreme amount of importance in our guard position, but it's just "meh, whatever" when dealing with our offensive tackle depth. I don't EVER want to say "I told you so", but if something happens to one of our starting OT's, well, do I really have to say it?

i think boone was just a situation of him being too good to be a backup. and then looney and kilgore were to fight it out with boone and goodwin. i have no real problem with any of those. and i think boone swings out to tackle in the event of an injury, which is fine.

but i agree with you on the snyder signing, and the lack of an attempt to get a serviceable 4th OT. i do not want to see snyder anywhere near OT.

Wouldn't it have been nice if ONE of these players; Looney, or Kilgore, or Slowey, or Snyder could play guard as well as Boone, and then Boone spent his time concentrating on OT?
That would give us confidence in knowing that we won't skip a beat if an OT went down. It just seems like a real waste of draft picks and resources to see it play out the way it did.
Because as it stands right now, we have no DEDICATED backup OT.
We currently have: Boone, who is dedicated at guard; Snyder, who skips around everywhere; a 7th round pick at OT; and some UFA fodder at OT.