) Kaep looked sharp, Colt looked capable, and marlon moore made an awesome catch. V Mac will be a difference maker too. Also GJ dixon. Not concerned. Niners have quality players where we need them.
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What is your biggest concern after seeing Broncos game (preseason)?
What is your biggest concern after seeing Broncos game (preseason)?
Aug 10, 2013 at 5:27 AM
- xtm059
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I'm not concerned about anything. I saw a lot of what I wanted to see. Awesome-wah blew someone up, so did Reid. Skuta got a sack (f**k yeah
) Kaep looked sharp, Colt looked capable, and marlon moore made an awesome catch. V Mac will be a difference maker too. Also GJ dixon. Not concerned. Niners have quality players where we need them.
) Kaep looked sharp, Colt looked capable, and marlon moore made an awesome catch. V Mac will be a difference maker too. Also GJ dixon. Not concerned. Niners have quality players where we need them.
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Aug 10, 2013 at 5:36 AM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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After watching some preseason highlights and another game, I propose that there's an important option missing from this poll:
"Lack of explosivity on offense."
Playmakers come out in the preseason when they're playing against 2nd and third stringers. We didn't show any.
No playmakers showed up. Seems like that's how other teams put it in during the mess and chaos of preseason.
Is our most explosive player our starting QB? Might be one reason why we came up with only 3 fg attempts.
Davis, Lockette have speed. But that's not quite explosivity. Players with open field creativity are red zone killers. That will be helpful for us when the real football starts. It's a little concerning. We need to find some open field runners, and give them reps.
Don't get me wrong with where I'm going with this. We can be successful without that player, with our defense, and our starting offensive personnel. But it would help to have a couple of broken field types in the mix.
"Lack of explosivity on offense."
Playmakers come out in the preseason when they're playing against 2nd and third stringers. We didn't show any.
No playmakers showed up. Seems like that's how other teams put it in during the mess and chaos of preseason.
Is our most explosive player our starting QB? Might be one reason why we came up with only 3 fg attempts.
Davis, Lockette have speed. But that's not quite explosivity. Players with open field creativity are red zone killers. That will be helpful for us when the real football starts. It's a little concerning. We need to find some open field runners, and give them reps.
Don't get me wrong with where I'm going with this. We can be successful without that player, with our defense, and our starting offensive personnel. But it would help to have a couple of broken field types in the mix.
Aug 10, 2013 at 6:31 AM
- xtm059
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
After watching some preseason highlights and another game, I propose that there's an important option missing from this poll:
"Lack of explosivity on offense."
Playmakers come out in the preseason when they're playing against 2nd and third stringers. We didn't show any.
No playmakers showed up. Seems like that's how other teams put it in during the mess and chaos of preseason.
Is our most explosive player our starting QB? Might be one reason why we came up with only 3 fg attempts.
Davis, Lockette have speed. But that's not quite explosivity. Players with open field creativity are red zone killers. That will be helpful for us when the real football starts. It's a little concerning. We need to find some open field runners, and give them reps.
Don't get me wrong with where I'm going with this. We can be successful without that player, with our defense, and our starting offensive personnel. But it would help to have a couple of broken field types in the mix.
I think that the reason we saw a lack of "explosivity" might have more to do with the skill of the depth players on each team's respective defenses. That's normally what the case is when there are 0 offensive touchdowns in a game.
Aug 10, 2013 at 7:01 AM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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Originally posted by xtm059:
I think that the reason we saw a lack of "explosivity" might have more to do with the skill of the depth players on each team's respective defenses. That's normally what the case is when there are 0 offensive touchdowns in a game.
Maybe...
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[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on Aug 10, 2013 at 7:02 AM ]
Aug 10, 2013 at 8:03 AM
- Rocket4989
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how were we lack of explosivity when kap was throwing the ball down the broncos throat? our running game was weak and i think the offensive coordinator was trying to force the running play to improve it.
Aug 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM
- Pillbusta
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Gore was out. Everything gets more explosive when he is in
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:12 AM
- xtm059
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Originally posted by Rocket4989:
how were we lack of explosivity when kap was throwing the ball down the broncos throat? our running game was weak and i think the offensive coordinator was trying to force the running play to improve it.
we're talking about more than one series
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by BrianGO:i think boone was just a situation of him being too good to be a backup. and then looney and kilgore were to fight it out with boone and goodwin. i have no real problem with any of those. and i think boone swings out to tackle in the event of an injury, which is fine.
I am kind of astonished at the lack of interest we have in obtaining OT depth.
We draft a bunch of guards/centers: Looney, Kilgore, Slowey, and then we sign Adam Snyder, so where do we play him? You guessed it, guard.
We developed an incredibly talented UFA in Boone over the last few years. Boone, a tackle in college, was developing very well at the OT position. So where is he playing now? Do I really have to say it? Ok, I will. He's playing guard.
We take OT Person in the seventh round a few years ago (no longer on the team), and we took OT Bykowski in what round this year? You guessed it, seventh round.
We seem to place an extreme amount of importance in our guard position, but it's just "meh, whatever" when dealing with our offensive tackle depth. I don't EVER want to say "I told you so", but if something happens to one of our starting OT's, well, do I really have to say it?
but i agree with you on the snyder signing, and the lack of an attempt to get a serviceable 4th OT. i do not want to see snyder anywhere near OT.
Wouldn't it have been nice if ONE of these players; Looney, or Kilgore, or Slowey, or Snyder could play guard as well as Boone, and then Boone spent his time concentrating on OT?
That would give us confidence in knowing that we won't skip a beat if an OT went down. It just seems like a real waste of draft picks and resources to see it play out the way it did.
Because as it stands right now, we have no DEDICATED backup OT.
We currently have: Boone, who is dedicated at guard; Snyder, who skips around everywhere; a 7th round pick at OT; and some UFA fodder at OT.
This was always my concern as well. I actually wanted Boone to battle with Staley at LT (natural position) b/c I thought he could be our future and let Staley/Davis fight it out at RT as well. Now you have three very very good OT's and depth. And then inside, you've got Slowey, Synder, Looney, Kilgore all battling it out with Iupati, Goodwin and for the vacant RG spot. I understand how it played out as it did but here we are again, with no REAL depth at OT w/o seriously messing with the chemistry on the OL should Staley (probable)/Davis go down.
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:14 AM
- qnnhan7
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Kaep scrambling for his life a couple of times. He only made it look good by getting positive yard running and throwing. The O-line starters need to do better.
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM
- xtm059
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Originally posted by NCommand:
This was always my concern as well. I actually wanted Boone to battle with Staley at LT (natural position) b/c I thought he could be our future and let Staley/Davis fight it out at RT as well. Now you have three very very good OT's and depth. And then inside, you've got Slowey, Synder, Looney, Kilgore all battling it out with Iupati, Goodwin and for the vacant RG spot. I understand how it played out as it did but here we are again, with no REAL depth at OT w/o seriously messing with the chemistry on the OL should Staley (probable)/Davis go down.
why is it probable staley will go down?
[ Edited by xtm059 on Aug 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM ]
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM
- SofaKing
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Originally posted by ninertribe004:Everyone keeps complaignin about oline depth, you guys realize we only kept 7 O lineman last year, so that depth your talking about is 2 offensive lineman.
Pretty sure we kept 8, but I get your point. It's going to be an issue if Snyder has to play tackle, or if he we have to shuffle the line to accommodate Boone moving to tackle. I can rest easier knowing we have a real backup swing tackle. No doom and gloom here. Just one of the few instances where we need some additional depth.
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Kaep scrambling for his life a couple of times. He only made it look good by getting positive yard running and throwing. The O-line starters need to do better.
True, CK masked many of our pass blocking issues and for a large, powerful line, the OL can get blown back in running plays resulting in loss of yardage (James had a bunch that first half esp. on off-tackle runs...just no where to go at all and outnumbered).
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:18 AM
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Originally posted by xtm059:
why is it probable staley will go down?
Staley is hurt every year...every year. He's a tough dude and I have a ton of respect for how he plays through pain but he is oft-injured with various ailments.
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:20 AM
- xtm059
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Staley is hurt every year...every year. He's a tough dude and I have a ton of respect for how he plays through pain but he is oft-injured with various ailments.
I still don't think the past is indicative of the future
Aug 10, 2013 at 9:20 AM
- 9erfanAUS
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Originally posted by blm7754:
Originally posted by saj4423:
It has to be the WR depth. The only turnover that really pissed me off was the Jenkins fumble and that goes back to the WR depth. I really hope he can get his s**t together.
Lots of our WR's (Jenkins included) didn't get to showcase what they can do... mostly because our backup QBs had NO time to throw.
Jenkins played like 60% of snaps...