Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I wonder why they pretty much only showed John on the "brothers" sound FX clip.
because Jim cusses way too much.
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Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM
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Nov 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I wonder why they pretty much only showed John on the "brothers" sound FX clip.
From my time at NFLN, I learned that all wired sound has to be approved by the teams in question before it airs.
So it is very possible that the 49ers nixed a lot of stuff Jim said that the NFLN wanted to use. Or maybe not.
[ Edited by NickSh49 on Nov 28, 2011 at 9:47 AM ]
Nov 28, 2011 at 9:48 AM
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.
On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Guys, really? Smith admitted he didn't even see him. It was a blown play by Smith. The coaches acknowledged it, Smith acknowledged it. Why cant you? I say that with respect.
Nov 28, 2011 at 9:52 AM
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.
On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Guys, really? Smith admitted he didn't even see him. It was a blown play by Smith. The coaches acknowledged it, Smith acknowledged it. Why cant you? I say that with respect.
If he didnt see him how did he know he missed him when he was talking to Geep?
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.
On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Yeah, next time they run that play, I'm sure Smith will look to Walker first. Just make sure he doesn't run out of room going to the sideline.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:
If he didnt see him how did he know he missed him when he was talking to Geep?
Great point. However, it's possible someone said something to Smith jogging off the field. I'm pretty sure Walker would of been complaining. Anyway, regardless whether he saw him or not, the point is it was a play that everyone on the Niners agree should have been made. Only on the Zone are people making excuses.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:03 AM
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Rodgers makes that throw 10 out of 10 times.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by valrod33:Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by 49erJim:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.Originally posted by qnnhan7:On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Guys, really? Smith admitted he didn't even see him. It was a blown play by Smith. The coaches acknowledged it, Smith acknowledged it. Why cant you? I say that with respect.
If he didnt see him how did he know he missed him when he was talking to Geep?
Not seeing him is more worrisome since that's the route in the play design which means he didn't even try to look for him or didn't trust Delanie, one of our smartest receivers to throw it blind to the sideline.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.
On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Guys, really? Smith admitted he didn't even see him. It was a blown play by Smith. The coaches acknowledged it, Smith acknowledged it. Why cant you? I say that with respect.
i know that Alex did not see him, thats why he was locked on VD the entire play. what I was saying is it was too late if he did in fact pick up D Walker when he broke open. The play would have worked if Alex Smith had gone to D Walker right off the bat after a VD look down. Smith never saw D Walker open because he never looked his way on that play. They have run that play before to D Walker. I am sure Alex saw the picture from the booth that he missed D Walker when he went to the sidelines.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:I agree, if you re-watch the play, Walker broke free after the safety bit and came up to zero in on VD, By that time it was too late for Smith. The only way that play would have worked is if Smith had planned to go to D Walker right off the bat on that play.
On that Delanie missed first play, Smith could have put it to Delanie had he not been rolling out. He spotted Delanie down field. By that time the DE was bearing down on him about 3-5 yards away. He still could have stopped reset his feet and delivered the ball for a long throw. But not so sure that it would have been a good throw. That DE can closed quickly once he sees the hint of Smith wanting to throw. Batted ball is what I'm thinking could be more likely. Pretty sure Smith doesn't have the Elway or Favre arm to wing it down field without setting his feet for it.
The reason Delanie was that much open is because the safety bit on the possible Smith and VD short connection. They should go back and practice that one. We should see that one again in the playoff.
Guys, really? Smith admitted he didn't even see him. It was a blown play by Smith. The coaches acknowledged it, Smith acknowledged it. Why cant you? I say that with respect.
If he didnt see him how did he know he missed him when he was talking to Geep?
Not seeing him is more worrisome since that's the route in the play design which means he didn't even try to look for him or didn't trust Delanie, one of our smartest receivers to throw it blind to the sideline.
I think Alex would love to have that play back, but it was the very 1st play of the game. He did make the play right? I would like to question Alex on that play tho to see what he saw on that call and why he did not look for D Walker?
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:18 AM
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The deepest safety on the left side on that play was actually running towards Walker. It might be Reed. He could have defended the pass. He only let Walker go when he saw Smith threw the ball to VD.
If you look only down field on that play you would say definitely Walker was wide-open. But if you look at the whole field as it unfold, not as definitive.
If you look only down field on that play you would say definitely Walker was wide-open. But if you look at the whole field as it unfold, not as definitive.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The deepest safety on the left side on that play was actually running towards Walker. It might be Reed. He could have defended the pass. He only let Walker go when he saw Smith threw the ball to VD.
If you look only down field on that play you would say definitely Walker was wide-open. But if you look at the whole field as it unfold, not as definitive.
D Walker was wide open, and Smith never looked his way. Its a play that Smith would need to look down VD and then pass the rock to D Walker very fast. Smith never planned to go to D Walker and that was Smiths fault.
Nov 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The deepest safety on the left side on that play was actually running towards Walker. It might be Reed. He could have defended the pass. He only let Walker go when he saw Smith threw the ball to VD.
If you look only down field on that play you would say definitely Walker was wide-open. But if you look at the whole field as it unfold, not as definitive.
D Walker was wide open, and Smith never looked his way. Its a play that Smith would need to look down VD and then pass the rock to D Walker very fast. Smith never planned to go to D Walker and that was Smiths fault.
There's 2 safety on that play. Look at the safety on top of the video coming down towards Walker. Walker isn't wide open until the safety let Walker go when he sees Smith passed the ball to VD. Walker would still be open with the safety trailing but not wide open.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:36 AM ]
Nov 28, 2011 at 4:21 PM
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Nov 28, 2011 at 4:35 PM
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by 49erJim:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
The deepest safety on the left side on that play was actually running towards Walker. It might be Reed. He could have defended the pass. He only let Walker go when he saw Smith threw the ball to VD.
If you look only down field on that play you would say definitely Walker was wide-open. But if you look at the whole field as it unfold, not as definitive.
D Walker was wide open, and Smith never looked his way. Its a play that Smith would need to look down VD and then pass the rock to D Walker very fast. Smith never planned to go to D Walker and that was Smiths fault.
There's 2 safety on that play. Look at the safety on top of the video coming down towards Walker. Walker isn't wide open until the safety let Walker go when he sees Smith passed the ball to VD. Walker would still be open with the safety trailing but not wide open.
maybe so, but if Alex had looked down VD and then gone right to D Walker, I call a TD.
