New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Is Jed about to become an ego maniac again?

If Kyle keeps flubbing up in the playoffs, yes.

Originally posted by Heroism:
Has anyone actually read the article by Mike Silver? I was watching Larry Kruger, and he mentioned that the article says that the front office wants Shanny to focus entirely on coaching and not on contracts. If this is true, this is actually great news. Sure, Shanny should have some input on the roster, but he shouldn't be involved in the negotiations. I never understood why he got involved in the BA deal and saved him from getting traded. I think that was likely the catalyst to this change, which could be a blessing in disguise. He also reiterated that Kyle and John's seats aren't even lukewarm.

After listening to Brad SF Niners read through the article, I interpreted this shakeup as a good thing. It's all anecdotal, but every time we've heard about Kyle's involvement in draft or contractural decision making - John suggesting to Kyle they give real consideration to Mahomes in 2017 and Kyle being fixated on Cousins, trading up for Joe Williams, CJ BeatHard, Dante Pettis, the recent story about Aiyuk's signing at the buzzer - it hasn't ended well. I like the idea of Kyle focusing on his forte and the FO doing their thing, obviously not completely siloed from each other, but Lynch having more say over personnel.
Even the bit about cutting back on cash expenses reads to me more like Jed is telling them not to blow his cash on stupid contract extensions with "Kyle's boys", but to be more Walsh-like or Belichick-like in the shrewdness of who we sign and who we move off of.
We need to do better in a lot of areas and I think this moves us in the right direction. Also happy to see the bit about their seats not even being lukewarm. Seems Jed has learned not to be emotionally reactive.

Originally posted by English:

Originally posted by socalfan21:
I think we are nearing an end to the Shanahan lynch era within the next 2-3 years. It looking like shanahan's incompetence in roster building is coming to a head. Jed is not putting up with his b******t anymore

I take issue with the incompetence jibe, no one keeps their team right at the top for years on end. But the issue was injuries over the last year, not a poor roster. That being said I am well aware that a number of posters really want Shanahan and Lynch out. I do wonder who they want in their place. I go back to the Bill Walsh days, and, after Seifert, we had to suffer for a long time before we saw a decent HC and that was without much of a GM. And after Harbaugh, again we were in trouble. I do not want to go back through those times again.

I am reasonably impressed with Jed, and I doubt if he is planning on doing anything as serious as sacking the two key guys. If you have ever been in management you will know that there is a vast chasm of options available before that. If he is unhappy about the financial side and roster quality, he would I imagine be leaning on Paraag to work more closely with Lynch. Jed has shown, though, that he is not running a hire and fire outfit. And despite the negative belief of a few posters, Shanahan is still a very highly regarded head coach and Lynch likewise as a general manager. The reason for the negativity is primarily the injury plague in the last few years and particularly last year. The current youth movement ought to start that rolling back.

As to comments like "Jed is not putting up with his b******t anymore", a couple of posters keep saying this. It is an unfounded accusation unless Jed has had a quiet work with you about it.

English is right. This is about efficiency. My guess is that, yeah, Jed is upset that the contracts dolled out have not led to the expected result, which is a championship. And therefore, as of today, Jed believes he has the right coach, right GM, right cap guy, but he needs them to work more in harmony as opposed to one of them standing above the other two too much. It is fairly clear that Kyle has made deals, on occasion, that are now questioned more critically (Yes, there were those that questioned them then. What can I say? They were right. But so are broken clocks, twice a day. That does not mean brilliance it means luck.).

Making it harder is the fact that Kyle got too close to those he worked with. This can happen. And frankly, it should. But you need someone to step in if Kyle cannot say no to things that ultimately betray the team's best interest. Therefore, you need Jed to step in. And say, "Hey, bud. I know you are close to player X, but you are being put in a hard position, because of your friendship with them, when it comes to negotiations. And in certain situations, you may be getting played deliberately or inadvertently. Don't get salty about it. It happens to the best of us. I think it is best for you, champ, to sit this one out. You see that sign on my door? It reads "Bad Motherf**ker". You let me handle the dirty bit, and if I don't do it, I will get one of the other two to do it. You get back to doing what you do best. There is no shame in it. You are the coach. A great one. And in the end, regardless of how it goes down, I am the bad motherf**ker that has to say "no"."

Leaks galore this year, it's not good base on the York's history . Kyle and John has hid the fact that the York's are bad owners. They are the Sacramento Kings, once in a while they struck gold, but most of the time they are competing for toilet bowls. If they fire Kyle and John at the end of the this season, better prepare for the same old dog years.

Originally posted by Predator85:
Leaks galore this year, it's not good base on the York's history . Kyle and John has hid the fact that the York's are bad owners. They are the Sacramento Kings, once in a while they struck gold, but most of the time they are competing for toilet bowls. If they fire Kyle and John at the end of the this season, better prepare for the same old dog years.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Leaks galore this year, it's not good base on the York's history . Kyle and John has hid the fact that the York's are bad owners. They are the Sacramento Kings, once in a while they struck gold, but most of the time they are competing for toilet bowls. If they fire Kyle and John at the end of the this season, better prepare for the same old dog years.

Keep laughing, I said that I said

Originally posted by Predator85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Leaks galore this year, it's not good base on the York's history . Kyle and John has hid the fact that the York's are bad owners. They are the Sacramento Kings, once in a while they struck gold, but most of the time they are competing for toilet bowls. If they fire Kyle and John at the end of the this season, better prepare for the same old dog years.

Keep laughing, I said that I said

I did say to myself what is with all the front office drama this offseason? I read silvers article and its A LOT of BS and speculation on his part. He makes assumptions based on one thing - they know they have to recalibrate financially a bit. Thats literally it and its obvious. "That said, it makes sense York would want Kyle to focus on coaching and not contracts" That is literally fluff.

Originally posted by Predator85:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Predator85:
Leaks galore this year, it's not good base on the York's history . Kyle and John has hid the fact that the York's are bad owners. They are the Sacramento Kings, once in a while they struck gold, but most of the time they are competing for toilet bowls. If they fire Kyle and John at the end of the this season, better prepare for the same old dog years.

Keep laughing, I said that I said

It's just funny because I know it's true.

So much rubbish and fantasy in this thread.

Originally posted by English:
So much rubbish and fantasy in this thread.

Peak offseason content.

This owner literally spent $330M last season and nearly a BILLION over the last 3 years combined...but Jed's the problem. Sure.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Is Jed about to become an ego maniac again?

If Kyle keeps flubbing up in the playoffs, yes.

Flubbing up in the playoffs….hes coached his team to at least 2 wins every time in the 4 years they made the playoffs. Every loss has been close or winnable if a play or two goes the other way.

These takes are so bad

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Heroism:
Has anyone actually read the article by Mike Silver? I was watching Larry Kruger, and he mentioned that the article says that the front office wants Shanny to focus entirely on coaching and not on contracts. If this is true, this is actually great news. Sure, Shanny should have some input on the roster, but he shouldn't be involved in the negotiations. I never understood why he got involved in the BA deal and saved him from getting traded. I think that was likely the catalyst to this change, which could be a blessing in disguise. He also reiterated that Kyle and John's seats aren't even lukewarm.

To be fair he also got involved in the Trent Williams deal or Trent was going to the Chiefs.

Is that right? As I recall, we had made a deal to "take care of his family" 3 years earlier, giving him a 6 year contract. I thought his options were to play or to retire. If we had the chance to trade him to the Chiefs or anyone else commensurate with his level of play, we should have taken it.

I think all of this Silver news is GREAT. I've always thought and said Kyle's attachment to past glory players and Lynch's statement that he would never deny Kyle what he needed drove this team into stupid decisions. And there IS room for improvement on Kyle's playcalling and game management. Perhaps paying attention to doing that job will help. Non football people do not need to make personnel decisions. John Lynch just needs to be told to be smart, and don't let Kyle's attachment to players supersede his measured judgement. I have every confidence in him. He just needs to be told he's the boss.

We traded for him, after Joe retired, during the 2020 draft in the last year of his deal with the agreement we wouldn't franchise tag him at the end of the year.

He was an UFA who we couldn't trade. If Kyle doesn't jump in and force them to up the offer Trent is signing a long term deal with the Chiefs. All we'd get is maybe a 3rd round pick a year later as a comp. I hardly think that warranted letting the best LT in the game walk.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Is Jed about to become an ego maniac again?

If Kyle keeps flubbing up in the playoffs, yes.

Flubbing up in the playoffs….hes coached his team to at least 2 wins every time in the 4 years they made the playoffs. Every loss has been close or winnable if a play or two goes the other way.

These takes are so bad

Literally change nothing else other than Bosa falling for the ball fake on 4th & 1 in OT of the SB and these guys would be lapping up Shanahan and Purdy.

Originally posted by okdkid:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
Is Jed about to become an ego maniac again?

If Kyle keeps flubbing up in the playoffs, yes.

Flubbing up in the playoffs….hes coached his team to at least 2 wins every time in the 4 years they made the playoffs. Every loss has been close or winnable if a play or two goes the other way.

These takes are so bad

Literally change nothing else other than Bosa falling for the ball fake on 4th & 1 in OT of the SB and these guys would be lapping up Shanahan and Purdy.

I don't even think that's on Bosa. For years we played scrape exchange on those types of plays but it sounded like there was no plan for Mahomes to keep that ball which is crazy when Trent Williams is on the sidelines calling for it.

But that game was filled with a good 7-8 things where if you just change one we likely win that game and most of them have nothing to do with Kyle's coaching or game planning. Literally bounce of the ball sometimes(like the CMC fumble going right to Karlaftis who was blocked out of the play by George or the muffed punt that hit Luter's leg)

I haven't seen any current pics, but is Jed still kind of heavy? Lol, I'm bored. Plus, I'm in the mood to type.