"The Offense" thread

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by rserda:
Harbaugh is doing exactly what he said he would do. We're starting off slow and implementing more and more of the WCO as the season progresses.

Harbaugh has not played from behind yet all year. I think tomorrow we find out how he will respond when down by 10+ points.

since when is playing from behind a validation of a teams offense? To me that is more of a validation of a teams defense. You seem confused.

Ok, so the defense is going to drive the ball downfield and score the points required to catch up to tie and/or win the game?

If the 49ers fall behind, Alex can't mount a comeback from two or three touchdowns behind with 0-3 yard screen passes. He's going to have to matriculate the ball down field. He'll have to do it racing against he clock. Instead of standing there and being all analytical about it, he will have to simply react.

The only way you play from behind that much is if the defense allows it and thus far this season the defense hasn't allowed it. Also keep in mind we are averaging 23 pts per game. You act like we are not scoring at all. And again just an FYI Alex Smith has already proven that he can bring the team back when behind from multiple TD's.

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by rserda:
Harbaugh is doing exactly what he said he would do. We're starting off slow and implementing more and more of the WCO as the season progresses.

Harbaugh has not played from behind yet all year. I think tomorrow we find out how he will respond when down by 10+ points.

since when is playing from behind a validation of a teams offense? To me that is more of a validation of a teams defense. You seem confused.

Ok, so the defense is going to drive the ball downfield and score the points required to catch up to tie and/or win the game?

If the 49ers fall behind, Alex can't mount a comeback from two or three touchdowns behind with 0-3 yard screen passes. He's going to have to matriculate the ball down field. He'll have to do it racing against he clock. Instead of standing there and being all analytical about it, he will have to simply react.

The only way you play from behind that much is if the defense allows it and thus far this season the defense hasn't allowed it. Also keep in mind we are averaging 23 pts per game. You act like we are not scoring at all. And again just an FYI Alex Smith has already proven that he can bring the team back when behind from multiple TD's.

1 TD vs Cincy...1 TD vs Seattle (Ginn doesnt count). Those were the games they have won. The Eagles will definitely put up more points than the Cowboys, and they have a way better secondary. No run game, we already know that, so it's in Alex's hands. GO!

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by backontop:

Originally posted by zillabeast:

Originally posted by rserda:
Harbaugh is doing exactly what he said he would do. We're starting off slow and implementing more and more of the WCO as the season progresses.

Harbaugh has not played from behind yet all year. I think tomorrow we find out how he will respond when down by 10+ points.

since when is playing from behind a validation of a teams offense? To me that is more of a validation of a teams defense. You seem confused.

Ok, so the defense is going to drive the ball downfield and score the points required to catch up to tie and/or win the game?

If the 49ers fall behind, Alex can't mount a comeback from two or three touchdowns behind with 0-3 yard screen passes. He's going to have to matriculate the ball down field. He'll have to do it racing against he clock. Instead of standing there and being all analytical about it, he will have to simply react.

The only way you play from behind that much is if the defense allows it and thus far this season the defense hasn't allowed it. Also keep in mind we are averaging 23 pts per game. You act like we are not scoring at all. And again just an FYI Alex Smith has already proven that he can bring the team back when behind from multiple TD's.

1 TD vs Cincy...1 TD vs Seattle (Ginn doesnt count). Those were the games they have won. The Eagles will definitely put up more points than the Cowboys, and they have a way better secondary. No run game, we already know that, so it's in Alex's hands. GO!

Eagles average only 26pts per game, 49ers average 23.3 pts per game. While Alex has only thrown 2 TD's (should have been 3 stupid blind ref) he has been able to get the team in position for FG's. 3pts>>>0pts.

Eagles defense is allowing 25.5 pts per game. The 49ers defense is allowing 17.3 pts per game. While yes I understand the teams that we have faced Seattle, Dallas and Cincy. The Eagles have faced an anemic Rams, struggling Falcons and the Giants.

Originally posted by zillabeast:
1 TD vs Cincy...1 TD vs Seattle (Ginn doesnt count). Those were the games they have won. The Eagles will definitely put up more points than the Cowboys, and they have a way better secondary. No run game, we already know that, so it's in Alex's hands. GO!

You may be right that it will be up to Smith to win the game but:

Eagles have two Int, SF has five. They are listed 24th in D, while SF is 27th. SF has eight total take-aways, Eagles three.

Eagles have a very small DLine that SF may be able to run against, wait and see.

I'm not sure the 9ers will win but I'm not ready to hand the Eagles a game ball yet.

Would one of the analysts among us please respond:

It appeared to me that the 9ers had a huge field position advantage in the Seattle game,

a deficit in the Dallas game, and pretty even game in Cincy.

Is that accurate?

Originally posted by Joecool:
Our Pro Bowl TE needs to get his head out of his ass or the coaches need to use him more as a decoy if he's being doubled.

Yeah right! Vernon Davis is an All-World TE. It's not his fault were using the same playbook as Singletery.

Originally posted by Redgoldknight:
Yeah right! Vernon Davis is an All-World TE. It's not his fault were using the same playbook as Singletery.

Come on. You have to know that this offense isn't anything close to being like it was under Singletary. The number of formations, player substitutions, and autibles should give any fan a clue that it isn't last year.

Harbro sitting out Gore and Chilo

Sh*t just got real.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Would one of the analysts among us please respond:

It appeared to me that the 9ers had a huge field position advantage in the Seattle game,

a deficit in the Dallas game, and pretty even game in Cincy.

Is that accurate?

I'd say a pretty good deficit in the Cincy game, especially in the first half.

Soap and bruce miller block way better than moran norris and anyone else.

mattbarrows: THIS JUST IN: The 49ers no longer rank last in offense after totalling 442 yards in Philadelphia. They're 28th. #babysteps

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Soap and bruce miller block way better than moran norris and anyone else.

Plus Bruce has better hands and explosion after the catch, Norris has NO hands or any value to the offense ...it's time for Norris to take a seat and let Miller develop into the FB this offense needs

Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
Plus Bruce has better hands and explosion after the catch, Norris has NO hands or any value to the offense ...it's time for Norris to take a seat and let Miller develop into the FB this offense needs

Miller's name came up a few times on STs as well! He was quite a find...Baalke? Harbaugh? Or one of the other guys?

I think Harbaugh has this team play a little too tight, especially on the road. They seem to go out in the game and played not to make a mistake. From Alex Smith to especially the offensive line. I think what happened yesterday they played through the 'tightness', relaxed a little when they were down 3-23, and just start to play natural football like they know how, not worry about the mistake too much.

With the win yesterday, hopefully they get the confidence to know that they can overcome any mistakes and miscues and still make plays to win the game. You just can't play not to make a mistake and win a game. They played not to lose. A good team knows there will be mistakes during the game in the attempt to make a play, but they also have the confident and know they can overcome those mistakes to win the game, cause they have done that before.

Hopefully, yesterday's game was a turning point for our guys.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Would one of the analysts among us please respond:

It appeared to me that the 9ers had a huge field position advantage in the Seattle game,

a deficit in the Dallas game, and pretty even game in Cincy.

Is that accurate?

9 out of 12 possession vs Hawks, we started with the ball at the 20+ yard line.... 3 times inside the 10.

12 out of 12 times vs Dallas, we started with the ball at the 20+ yard line.

6 out of 11 times vs Cincy, we started with the ball at the 20+ yard line... 3 times inside 15.

10 out of 13 times vs Philly, we started with the ball at the 20+ yard line.... 1 time inside the 5.


* now, none of this is to say we didn't get a penalty soon after to push us back further.