gore frustrated *Edit - Signed Extension on 8/30 - 3 years: May no longer be frustrated.*

Originally posted by HessianDud:
he still gets guaranteed money if he's injured, so that's good. If he breaks his body for the team he should still get compensated, and it sounds like he will. If he just loses his game, then he doesn't get the money. Kind of cruel.

I liked the contract before, and I figured there would be lots of incentives and stuff. I like it more for the 49ers and less for Frank Gore now. I'm surprised how many "incentives" and loopholes and stuff there are; surprised Rosenhaus would agree to it. But I think it does show that Gore wanted to be a Niner for life, and the team got a very friendly deal to make that happen. If Gore stays healthy and productive, everyone wins big time.

I dont know about that.

If Gore isn't productive, he loses.

If Gore is productive enough that they want to keep the next 2-3 years, then he was seriously underpaid.

Some call this smart, I just think it's cheap and disrespectful. The team has more than enough cap space to bare some of the burden of risk.

Mark this post, Gore will not be on this team by his 30th Bday.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Wow, I'm so impressed. We gave Gore a s**tty deal where the team takes no risk and its all on Gore. Who else is excited we used no cap space in 2011 when we've got tons of it..... f**k corporations (teams) they'll chew u up and spit you out. I dont know why all you guys are so happy, it's not like you're gonna see any of that saved money.....what a joke.


The more I read the contract the more pissed off I get. Is this really the way to treat a player like Gore....the dude puts his body on the line and is on this s**tty team and this is how we pay him??? Give me a break. He would of been better off not getting a deal and just hitting the FA market next year. I hate this cheap ass orginazation....

So would rather have them pay a RB who is no longer productive. Its not about being cheap, its about being smart with your money.


cant believe Im actually defending the Yorks and front office

Actually dude, for Gore I would.

why

Because IMO, he should be rewarded for his dedication to the team and what he has brought to the niners.

Contracts are all about what you did, not what you will do unless you are a rookie or a 32 year-old vet.

Gore has 2 or 3 years at the humph of his career which means 2011-2013 should be 4+ average yards per carry years. His contract is a very "fair" deal for both sides. What will be the most interesting situation will be when he is in his 3rd year of the contract and still within a reasonable age to be a contributor.

Personally, if Hunter show some really good things this year, we trade Gore prior to his contract year.

There is nothing fair about his deal. Its a what have you done for me lately contract.

That's fine if you want to take the stance that all that matters is what's good for the Yorks, but dont come crying the next time a player holds out because he wants better for himself. Moreover, I dont want to hear any more b******t speeches (from posters, not you personally) about team loyalty. Honestly, what does that get you? Nothing.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by HessianDud:
he still gets guaranteed money if he's injured, so that's good. If he breaks his body for the team he should still get compensated, and it sounds like he will. If he just loses his game, then he doesn't get the money. Kind of cruel.

I liked the contract before, and I figured there would be lots of incentives and stuff. I like it more for the 49ers and less for Frank Gore now. I'm surprised how many "incentives" and loopholes and stuff there are; surprised Rosenhaus would agree to it. But I think it does show that Gore wanted to be a Niner for life, and the team got a very friendly deal to make that happen. If Gore stays healthy and productive, everyone wins big time.

I dont know about that.

If Gore isn't productive, he loses.

If Gore is productive enough that they want to keep the next 2-3 years, then he was seriously underpaid.

Some call this smart, I just think it's cheap and disrespectful. The team has more than enough cap space to bare some of the burden of risk.

Mark this post, Gore will not be on this team by his 30th Bday.

If he stays healthy and productive, he will be helping the team be successful, and will get the maximum out of his contract.

Not sure how you can see that as anything but a win-win, in that scenario.

I definitely hear you that the deal is not very good for Gore. I think including the salary from this year as guaranteed money is sneaky s**t; that doesn't stay true to the idea of an "extension." But even if he suffers a horrible injury, he is still guaranteed to get somewhere in the neighborhood of 8 or 9 million. As much as I love Gore and wanted to take care of him, realistically, what could a RB with his age and injury history expect? He would not get anywhere close to that on the open market. He wasn't going to get a deal at all without some protections for the team.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
Wow, I'm so impressed. We gave Gore a s**tty deal where the team takes no risk and its all on Gore. Who else is excited we used no cap space in 2011 when we've got tons of it..... f**k corporations (teams) they'll chew u up and spit you out. I dont know why all you guys are so happy, it's not like you're gonna see any of that saved money.....what a joke.


The more I read the contract the more pissed off I get. Is this really the way to treat a player like Gore....the dude puts his body on the line and is on this s**tty team and this is how we pay him??? Give me a break. He would of been better off not getting a deal and just hitting the FA market next year. I hate this cheap ass orginazation....

So would rather have them pay a RB who is no longer productive. Its not about being cheap, its about being smart with your money.


cant believe Im actually defending the Yorks and front office

Actually dude, for Gore I would.

why

Because IMO, he should be rewarded for his dedication to the team and what he has brought to the niners.

Contracts are all about what you did, not what you will do unless you are a rookie or a 32 year-old vet.

Gore has 2 or 3 years at the humph of his career which means 2011-2013 should be 4+ average yards per carry years. His contract is a very "fair" deal for both sides. What will be the most interesting situation will be when he is in his 3rd year of the contract and still within a reasonable age to be a contributor.

Personally, if Hunter show some really good things this year, we trade Gore prior to his contract year.

There is nothing fair about his deal. Its a what have you done for me lately contract.

That's fine if you want to take the stance that all that matters is what's good for the Yorks, but dont come crying the next time a player holds out because he wants better for himself. Moreover, I dont want to hear any more b******t speeches (from posters, not you personally) about team loyalty. Honestly, what does that get you? Nothing.

The NFL is a cold dog eat dog business. There is no team loyalty, the minute your play drops your done.

Originally posted by susweel:
The NFL is a cold dog eat dog business. There is no team loyalty, the minute your play drops your done.

Cool, we agree. Let's just not have a double standard when players make personal decisions based on that fact.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:
The NFL is a cold dog eat dog business. There is no team loyalty, the minute your play drops your done.

Cool, we agree. Let's just not have a double standard when players make personal decisions based on that fact.

I dont, I never blame a player for wanting to get their money.

NinefourNiner!!!!!

Time to edit the thread title again.

"May somewhat still be frustrated"

or

"May have gotten screwed but signed anyway"

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by susweel:
The NFL is a cold dog eat dog business. There is no team loyalty, the minute your play drops your done.

Cool, we agree. Let's just not have a double standard when players make personal decisions based on that fact.

Not even when a player is HUGELY undeserving (re: Goldson)?

Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Not even when a player is HUGELY undeserving (re: Goldson)?

Well that was just down right stupid on Goldson's part....LOL


With that said, based on the contracts this year, I wouldn't doubt if a number of the owners had some form of colousion going.

To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Originally posted by susweel:
To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Still great. Not a killer deal that they can still get out of with very little consequence

Originally posted by susweel:
To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Still feel good. His contract is a trade friendly contract.

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Still great. Not a killer deal that they can still get out of with very little consequence

How so ?

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Still great. Not a killer deal that they can still get out of with very little consequence

How so ?

So you dont know the details, you just want to complain about his contract?






http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/02/11/Gores-new-contract-includes-no-risks-for/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=558206&feedID=5936

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
To all the fans that were jumping for joy when they signed him to an extension. How do you feel now about that ??

Still great. Not a killer deal that they can still get out of with very little consequence

How so ?

So you dont know the details, you just want to complain about his contract?






http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/02/11/Gores-new-contract-includes-no-risks-for/landing_maiocco_v3.html?blockID=558206&feedID=5936

Do your homework before you come in riding on the "I told you so" horse.

Plus it's three games, get back at me by at least mid-season.