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Do we have the worst QB situation in the NFL ?
Do we have the worst QB situation in the NFL ?
Aug 18, 2011 at 9:47 AM
- WildBill
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Worst no....bottom half or bottom third yes.
Aug 18, 2011 at 9:49 AM
- WRATHman44
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Originally posted by Hollywood:
Originally posted by valrod33:Coeur D'Alene is in Idaho and is actually gorgeous. I got to visit once back when I was living in Montana.
I stopped reading at this Coeur d'Alen
This is America not France
FREEDOM FRIES FTW
Sarcasm detectors need recalibration every 6 months
Aug 18, 2011 at 9:52 AM
- Schulzy
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Should stay up in Coeur d'Alene
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:04 AM
- WildBill
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Dumb thread-why? Cause their aren't any good linemen to be had at this point. We did bring in Goodwin. He isn't lined up with the first team...why? Because he has to learn the playbook yet and gel with his teammate. People are forgetting that when you sign someone, even with talent they have to learn the playbook and their teammates tendencies. I think the center and left side will be okay the RG and maybe the RT are the question marks. As for players and the cap. People are forgetting that the niners still can pick people from other teams that are released because of that teams cap situation or the team wanting to go younger. If we were to bring anybody in now-I would prefer we resign Barry Sims, because he is familiar with his linemates and did well replacing Staley the last two years despite his age.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:12 AM
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I don't know much about Kolb. Only in the limited time he played against us and a few highlights of him in Philly. So lets assumed that he's better than Smith. The question is how much better? The answer might be 'not much' Because Harbaugh and Co. wasn't willing to give up his going price. And if they really think he might be all that, I'm sure they would have given up more for him.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:13 AM
- Mr.Mcgibblets
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Originally posted by WildBill:
If we were to bring anybody in now-I would prefer we resign Barry Sims, because he is familiar with his linemates and did well replacing Staley the last two years despite his age.
They appear content to allow Boone to take that swing-tackle role... unless it turns out that Boone pushes Anthony Davis to that role for the time being. We also have the younger kids ( Hall/Person/Wiggins ) fighting for the 4th spot, and we still have the ever versatile Snyder if need be.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:14 AM
- dj43
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Originally posted by qnnhan7:
I don't know much about Kolb. Only in the limited time he played against us and a few highlights of him in Philly. So lets assumed that he's better than Smith. The question is how much better? The answer might be 'not much' Because Harbaugh and Co. wasn't willing to give up his going price. And if they really think he might be all that, I'm sure they would have given up more for him.
I think you are correct.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:18 AM
- goodthings19
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Originally posted by WWFGD:Originally posted by Hollywood:Coeur D'Alene is in Idaho and is actually gorgeous. I got to visit once back when I was living in Montana.Originally posted by valrod33:I stopped reading at this Coeur d'Alen
This is America not France
FREEDOM FRIES FTW
I was in Kellogg at Silver Mountain Resort during this same time. North Idaho is beautiful country.
Ya I took the wife and kids on a camping trip up there a couple years back. Passed through some pretty countryside in southeast Washington. Now I see why they call it the evergreen state. Stopped in a town called Pasco for some sightseeing. Wouldn't mind taking some time off to visit again. North Idaho was a little to dry for my taste, too much sagebrush not enough trees.
[ Edited by goodthings19 on Aug 18, 2011 at 10:19 AM ]
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:19 AM
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It might be a little early to give up on 3 #1 draft picks and a pro bowl center (if he ever sees the field).
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by goodthings19:Originally posted by WWFGD:Originally posted by Hollywood:Coeur D'Alene is in Idaho and is actually gorgeous. I got to visit once back when I was living in Montana.Originally posted by valrod33:I stopped reading at this Coeur d'Alen
This is America not France
FREEDOM FRIES FTW
I was in Kellogg at Silver Mountain Resort during this same time. North Idaho is beautiful country.
Ya I took the wife and kids on a camping trip up there a couple years back. Passed through some pretty countryside in southeast Washington. Now I see why they call it the evergreen state. Stopped in a town called Pasco for some sightseeing. Wouldn't mind taking some time off to visit again. North Idaho was a little to dry for my taste, too much sagebrush not enough trees.
Ah yes, beautiful Pasco, WA
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by A9R4Life:
Agreed... One thing I noticed is that our new Veteran Center was not playing in that
game, and once he gets himself settled on the play book, a lot of these problems will
go away... I'm not a fan of signing Josh McCown either... I think most of our problems
will work themselves out during preseason..
McCown is the whipping boy to protect Alex and Kaep while they sort out who/what is the best combo in the OL.
The OP is correct, I believe, in that Harbaugh had no idea how bad the OL is. However, I'm not going to jump off the bridge just yet. I expect Harbaugh and staff will find out who are the best candidates and do some serious coaching up of those guys.
One thing to remember; if the HC is a QB guru (which he is) and prides himself in how well he develops QBs (which he does) he is NOT going to stand idly by while the QBs that he has invested so much in get killed by an incompetent OL. So while the current group may or may not have all the right guys to make an excellent OL, the group that is here will get a big dose of technique and sorting out everyday.
Adam Snyder was quoted this week as saying they were spending a lot of time on technique. 'bout time.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:27 AM
- WildBill
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Originally posted by oldman9er:They will keep Snyder simply because they have no one else to b/u at center. While the niners have had success of moving guards to center, they were usually pro bowl caliber linemen (Cross, Sapolu) which Snyder isn't. Teams have also moved tackles to guards. Snyder is versitle, but as we saw last week and throughout his career-weak and can be pushed around. Hope the youngsters prove better. Either way, I say he is gone after this year and that the niners draft a center next year to groom-yes I know, the niners don't draft center only linemen.
Originally posted by WildBill:
If we were to bring anybody in now-I would prefer we resign Barry Sims, because he is familiar with his linemates and did well replacing Staley the last two years despite his age.
They appear content to allow Boone to take that swing-tackle role... unless it turns out that Boone pushes Anthony Davis to that role for the time being. We also have the younger kids ( Hall/Person/Wiggins ) fighting for the 4th spot, and we still have the ever versatile Snyder if need be.
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by A9R4Life:
Agreed... One thing I noticed is that our new Veteran Center was not playing in that
game, and once he gets himself settled on the play book, a lot of these problems will
go away... I'm not a fan of signing Josh McCown either... I think most of our problems
will work themselves out during preseason..
McCown is the whipping boy to protect Alex and Kaep while they sort out who/what is the best combo in the OL.
The OP is correct, I believe, in that Harbaugh had no idea how bad the OL is. However, I'm not going to jump off the bridge just yet. I expect Harbaugh and staff will find out who are the best candidates and do some serious coaching up of those guys.
One thing to remember; if the HC is a QB guru (which he is) and prides himself in how well he develops QBs (which he does) he is NOT going to stand idly by while the QBs that he has invested so much in get killed by an incompetent OL. So while the current group may or may not have all the right guys to make an excellent OL, the group that is here will get a big dose of technique and sorting out everyday.
Adam Snyder was quoted this week as saying they were spending a lot of time on technique. 'bout time.
The dude is a former NFL qb. Harbaugh should know how valuable an offensive line is to a qb's career and health.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Aug 18, 2011 at 10:29 AM ]
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM
- lamontb
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
this thread is dumb
extra dumb
Aug 18, 2011 at 10:36 AM
- HessianDud
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Whatever happens with Smith, at least we have a QB to develop. Sure, it might take us a few years to get there, but I would rather be patient with Kaep than to go all in on John Beck or Chad Henne or Jason Campbell, or wait & pray for Newton, or count on McNabb...