Originally posted by fearthe9ers:
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Originally posted by oldman9er:
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Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Originally posted by oldman9er:
The projected stats for Alex under both Raye and Mike J.
264 of 446 (59%) for 3276 yards, 24 TDs, 10 INTs, 90.6 QBR. (M.J.)
327 of 541 (60.4%) for 3418 yards, 26 TDs, 17 INTs, 81.5 QBR. (Raye)
Imagine what he could do with a legit OC at this point. If Harbaugh and Roman are the real deal... two rookies and then starting LT out with injury... if our OL is even marginally better... expect a 90+ QBR... and that should be plenty enough to get us a winning record. (assuming the D doesn't regress horribly)
How many games was gore out for at the end of last season? Would that have any effect on our QB's Qb rating?
5 games altogether and most of the sixth game... and heck yeah, losing your starting RB can certainly affect QB performance. 
Guess Troy and Shaun Hill would have had superior numbers if Gore wasn't injured either. 
Haha, yeah... as if the reasons for why Alex will be making 5+ mil this year compared to Hill (HALF of that) and an unemployed Troy is just.... so.... confusing.
Help me out with that.... NFL teams are just so naive, is that right???? 
No. If you make the excuse for Alex, you should make the excuse for all the other QB's. Every excuse you can make for Alex failing, you can make for all other Qb's failing. So if you're going to say that the absence of Frank contributed to Alex's less than stellar numbers, you must say the same for Troy and Hill
How did Troy come in off the street and put up better numbers against Denver and St. Louis than Alex ever has? That just doesn't make sense.
PS: The only reason why Alex is getting more of a chance than Troy and Hill has more to do with where he was picked and his age than anything else. Troy was a late round pick and is undersized. Hill is old and is a journeyman.
Alex had to come in for Troy in his 2nd rams game
Troy was FLUKE! He had one good game.
Anyways, the biggest problem last year was Singletary being our head coach
One good game that was our 1st win 
Alex came into the Rams game and turned the ball over.
How is a QB rating over 100 in his first 2 games with 0 TC and 1st team reps a fluke? This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
It baffles me how coaching was an issue for Alex but not for Troy or Carr.
Because his combined QB ratings the 4 games after was 58
If you don't think that Troy Smith was a fluke there's gotta be something wrong with you.
This is such a dumb statement I don't even know how to respond. There's a difference between being inconsistent or even bad....and being a fluke.
Got damn, was Alex a fluke in his last game against the Cards posting a 100+ QB rating when he has a career QB rating in the 70s?
Yes, bad QB's can have good games and no...throwing for 300+ yards is not a fluke. It's called having a good game nothing more nothing less. You can cry about throwing that desperation pass to Delanie....why don't people discredit Favre for his ill advised desperation passes? Because, if they're completed that's all that matters. There's no column for "ill advised passes".
It's almost infuriating to me how a QB who came to the team in week 1 is being discredited for having bad games....yet in the same frigging breath people are making excuses for a QB who has played 6 years of mediocre football. I'm told that a simple "workout" is so important for a Qb and receiver to gain chemistry...yet Troy was expected to create chemistry on the fly while learning a playbook without a "workout" or TC or preseason.
It's not that I think Troy is good...it's that Alex fans are walking contradictions...
If Troy's good games are flukes then so are Alex's.
u make some good points , but i disagree. the difference between AS and TS is that while TS came in and was impressive with a crappy situation he simply doesnt have it in him to overcome a knowledgeable gameplan against him. keep him in the pocket and u might as well have me as the QB.
AS on the other hand has shown the ability that he can overcome whatever the defense does. he can stand tall in the pocket. he can make plays when things break down. he can scraamble and improvise. he can run for yards.
Of course , for every one time he has succeeded in these situations, we can find three where he has failed. but it is there. TS? not so much.
do i believe AS can become the QB we need? not really. based on his history, its against the odds. but ,f**k it, im rooting for him.
WTF? I'm completely dumbfounded how you can even make that kind of conclusion when
a) Troy had 0 chemistry with his receivers (his accuracy is typically not as bad as it was last year...you can tell those missed passes had all to do with chemistry and timing...something he did not get a chance to work on.
b) He played with a limited playbook.... That crappy Raye playbook, take it and chop it down to 1/3 and tell me how difficult it would be to move the ball.
c) Troy has limited experience...I think he started 3 other games before getting to the 9ers. How are you comparing him to a guy who has started over 50? How did Troy come in with a limited playbook and beast in 2 games? I believe the St. Louis game dwarfed Alex's best single game career stats. How is that possible?
At least be frigging fair in your assessment.
"AS on the other hand has shown the ability that he can overcome whatever the defense does. he can stand tall in the pocket. he can make plays when things break down. he can scraamble and improvise. he can run for yards"
Is this some kind of joke? That is the KNOCK on HIM! He can't perform when things break down. He can't perform unless everyone around him is good to pro-bowl quality from the WR's, to the TE's, to the coaches, to the OC's, to the HC. He can NOT make plays when things break down. WTF, have you even watched him play?
Troy found success when things broke down...that's why he started. He was able to scramble and make plays. You have no idea what you're talking about.
